Why do people think Leah is dumb for not believing Cain about his End of the World Theory?

  • #1
    This has bugged me since the game came out. Lots of people seem to think Leah is stupid when she doesn't believe Cain when he talks about the end of the world, and about Heaven and Hell, because she's surrounded by monsters.

    Here's how I saw it, and hopefully someone can point out where I went wrong (or maybe I can help someone else straighten out a bit).

    The way I see it, she wasn't denying the fact that they're surrounded by skeletons, zombies, and other monsters. She was denying that the end of the world was coming, and that events were being orchestrated by some set of powerful beings with an agenda. Basically, she thought it was natural phenomena, and/or human agents causing trouble for their own ends.

    I mean, I recognize that sometimes wild animals (wild dogs, coyotes, wolves) mangle live stock or pets, but I don't believe in the chupcabra. I accept that someone blew up the World Trade Center, but I don't accept that it was a US gov't conspiracy.

    Edit: The above paragraph is supposed to illustrate examples of how someone can believe things are happening (monsters vs wild animals) but not attribute it to some wild conspiracy theory (angels/demons vs gov't conspiracies).
  • #2
    Quote from TheDFO

    This has bugged me since the game came out. Lots of people seem to think Leah is stupid when she doesn't believe Cain when he talks about the end of the world, and about Heaven and Hell, because she's surrounded by monsters.

    Here's how I saw it, and hopefully someone can point out where I went wrong (or maybe I can help someone else straighten out a bit).

    The way I see it, she wasn't denying the fact that they're surrounded by skeletons, zombies, and other monsters. She was denying that the end of the world was coming, and that events were being orchestrated by some set of powerful beings with an agenda. Basically, she thought it was natural phenomena, and/or human agents causing trouble for their own ends.

    I mean, I recognize that sometimes wild animals (wild dogs, coyotes, wolves) mangle live stock or pets, but I don't believe in the chupcabra. I accept that someone blew up the World Trade Center, but I don't accept that it was a US gov't conspiracy.


    What does the last sentences have anything to do with this....and btw

    Don't believe every conspiracy you hear, but don't believe you are told either.
  • #3
    Quote from overneathe

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    Tampering with the dll files to get darker graphics is against the user agreement.


    Tampering with Diablo's dll files is against the user agreement. Tampering with Windows .dll files might screw your machine (not in this case), but is not against the Diablo user agreement. Jay Wilson gave green light to this "mod" a while back. It's a Windows mod, not a Diablo mod. Works with a few other games as well.

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    Quote from TheDFO

    This has bugged me since the game came out. Lots of people seem to think Leah is stupid when she doesn't believe Cain when he talks about the end of the world, and about Heaven and Hell, because she's surrounded by monsters.

    Here's how I saw it, and hopefully someone can point out where I went wrong (or maybe I can help someone else straighten out a bit).

    The way I see it, she wasn't denying the fact that they're surrounded by skeletons, zombies, and other monsters. She was denying that the end of the world was coming, and that events were being orchestrated by some set of powerful beings with an agenda. Basically, she thought it was natural phenomena, and/or human agents causing trouble for their own ends.

    I mean, I recognize that sometimes wild animals (wild dogs, coyotes, wolves) mangle live stock or pets, but I don't believe in the chupcabra. I accept that someone blew up the World Trade Center, but I don't accept that it was a US gov't conspiracy.


    What does the last sentences have anything to do with this....and btw

    Don't believe every conspiracy you hear, but don't believe you are told either.


    I'll go back and make that clear. My bad.
  • #4
    Most people have trouble separating what they know, and what their character knows... Or in this case, an NPC...

    -Alamar
  • #5
    There are a couple of books that are out that illustrate the childhood of Leah and how she came about to be in Cain's care.

    She, as a character, wasn't around for D1 and D2's events. She's never seen a demon or an angel, or zombies, etc. Picture yourself in her shoes. You have an uncle that spent the last 15-20 years of your life ranting about the end of the world and a demonic invasion. Meanwhile, all this time there hasn't been a shred of concrete proof. Would you believe him?

    I wouldn't. I'd be like Leah and go, "Yes, yes, uncle, flaming meteor demonic hordes of doom, here's a cup of tea, now go sit by the fireplace and be a good uncle and go sleep."
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  • #6
    Quote from Jaetch

    There are a couple of books that are out that illustrate the childhood of Leah and how she came about to be in Cain's care.

    She, as a character, wasn't around for D1 and D2's events. She's never seen a demon or an angel, or zombies, etc. Picture yourself in her shoes. You have an uncle that spent the last 15-20 years of your life ranting about the end of the world and a demonic invasion. Meanwhile, all this time there hasn't been a shred of concrete proof. Would you believe him?

    I wouldn't. I'd be like Leah and go, "Yes, yes, uncle, flaming meteor demonic hordes of doom, here's a cup of tea, now go sit by the fireplace and be a good uncle and go sleep."


    That was always my thought. But it I've seen a number of people arguing that she's a moron for not believing her uncle, specifically because "she just got attacked by a zombie." I know not everyone thinks so, but I've seen it used a number of times as a reason why the story wasn't good. So I was wondering if I missed something. Also, I find it annoying cause there are REAL reasons to complain about the game's story (how all the villains are the worst of the worst comic book monologuers for one), not this one.
  • #7
    I think it's mainly because people are overall annoyed with the Lea character. The only characters in D3 that are more annoying are maghda and cynthea ( or whatever her name was, that endless nonsense talking spider lady in act 3 ).

    Oh and yes, standing in the middle of a HUGE invasion by monsters and not believing in it is kinda strange.
  • #8
    Leah is the one who had the vision of hell, if i remember the opening movie correctly, how can she not be stupid?
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