Originally Posted by owningypsie So then, who is responsible for the Worldstone's destruction? Cain.
Lol, okay. Tyrael is the one who destroyed it, and of his own volition. Cain commented on it later, after the magic rock was blown to pieces by the Azure Wrath.
It has been said... that in the end of all things... we would find a new beginning. But as the shadow once again crawls across our world... and the stench of terror drifts on a bitter wind... the people pray for strength and guidance. They should pray for the mercy of a swift death... for I've seen what the darkness hides!
... I don't think it's safe here.
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Hmm, well my main problem with this theory is motive. Why would Cain want to facilitate the return of Diablo through the Wanderer only to then turn around and have the hero of Diablo 2 kick the crap out of him. Furthermore, what would an aged man have to gain from all the evil that is going on. It's not as though the Three owe Cain their allegiance.
The only way this would be feasible would be if it turns out that Cain is actually Belial (being the Lord of Lies) in mortal form, much like Diablo walked in the guise of the Wanderer for a while. Then it would make sense, perhaps Belial had some nefarious plot to off the Three and allow his own armies to invade. I suppose this would explain Cain's age. But then again aren't Belial and Azmodan still at each other's throats? How could Belial leave Hell with the civil war raging as strong as ever? He's not going to leave his army completely leaderless. If this is the case why is Cain trying to stop/spread information about the impending Hellish invasion?
Here's another thing to think about, why would Blizzard have a plot "twist" that everyone's expecting. Not much of a twist then is it?
No, if Blizzard is clever they're going to have plot twists that are completely unexpected, or they will fulfill the expected "twists" in ways unlooked for.
Otherwise the Worldstone is destroyed and Cain is murdered by the invading armies of Hell like everyone else. Now why in God's name would he be trying to achieve his own death if he's evil, it's just not an intelligent goal.
Blizzard also has to have some iconic characters that live through Diablo 3 also, so if Tyrael and Cain are betrayers (and consequently die), who's left?
I suppose if Blizzard wanted to twist the living crap out of the story they could make it work, but otherwise I don't think so. When you're expecting all of the characters to betray, you know that betrayal has been overdone in the fantasy universe you're talking about.
think about it. who has pushed the hero to do everything that has progressed the story? Cain. So then, who is responsible for the Worldstone's destruction? Cain. So in essence, the hero, the prime evils, and Tyrael are pawns to Cain.
My ideal story would have Tyrael be a big baddie in D3, and then Cain turns out to be the primest of evils in the expansion.
never really thought of it that way. great analysis :thumbsup:
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Cain is not responsible for the destruction of the Worldstone! Tyrael did it by himself and Cain later comments on it if you talk to him after Baal is destroyed.
if its all cain why did the demons trap cain in a cage and also capture him again and he is also helping you? shouldnt the evil be helping him not trying to kill him.. but i guess its kinda true because they could've killed him instead of putting him in a cage.. but this is a interresting thery
they anounced that cain is holding diablo in him i think unless i took what i read wrong i just dont know how diablo got in him and i dont think tyreal is corrupted he just made a mistake by destroying the world stone
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I came to a conclusion that Tyrael is truely Belial. When you think about he lies to the adventurer and aids him to kill all the Prime Evils. Now he can rise to power!
I believe that Cain is the Lord of Lies, Belial. He is using the main character to utterly destroy every last prime evil and in this game Azmodan so that he himself can rule over The Burning Hells by himself. Think about it.
Dont know if it already been said but on the D3 site somewhere it says the "story" of the game and it says its first victim is Cain or something alone those lines. Ill try and find it.
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It has been twenty years since the events of Diablo II. Of those who faced the Lords of Hatred, Terror, and Destruction in the battle over the fate of Sanctuary, there are few still living who can bear to remember the horrors that the Prime Evils wrought upon the world. And of those who did not witness the terrible events firsthand, most believe the stories to be little more than myth. But something evil is stirring once again in Tristram, and it may already have claimed its first victim: Deckard Cain.
i think that's referring to his encounter in the dungeon they show in the gameplay trailer. He's stuck in the catacombs beneath the church in hordes of demons. but i think that he makes it out ok from the looks of things.
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The Tristram Cathedral is home to some sort of cult.
It is stated somewhere that Cain travelled to the Tristram Cathedral in earch of some information. It seems entirely possible that they captured Cain while he was wandering the place and did something to him. Imagine for a moment that they are a Cult of Belial.
Edit: Great title on that concept art in the lower right. I hadn't noticed the resemblance.
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if its all cain why did the demons trap cain in a cage and also capture him again and he is also helping you?
1) Cain was captured in Diablo II and not killed because he is a Horadrim, and, as such, would be a valuable asset to the Prime Evils with his vast knowledge and would probably make a good minion once corrupted, which takes time and energy from the soulstones/Prime Evils/a major demonic power.
2) He has not been "captured" in Diablo III in the sense that he was in Diablo II. In Diablo III he has a handful of other men with him, guarding him against the cultists, undead, and demonics plagueing the lower levels of the Cathedral, which they openly fight and kill along side you in the new game (which disproves any upcoming argument that the men with him are demons, since demons have no need to kill themselves.)
I say the Main Culprit is the COW KING......Think his armour is godly,you have to go to a Special Level for him....HE IS THE ONE WHO IS BEHIND ALL THIS *Moooooooooo* oOo GOD NO HE FOUND ME!!!!!! /dies
I never really thought of it like that here are a few facts that might support this idea.
1.Decard Cain was always being captured in locked up in Tristam but the monsters never really attacked him.
2.The Heroes would always show up just in time to save cain which might be true or just a coincidence.
3.Cain is living longer than any of the other character's meaning he may be the host for some big immortal demon (same thing Diablo,Lord of Terror does to get back into the mortal world).
4.Decard Cain is the last of the Horadrim which is a bit fishy because he never really fought and all the other Horadrim ended up dieing by continously fighting the prime evils,Does this mean that cain ordered the three bothers to let him live?
There are also these facts that utterly break this idea.
1.Maruis the guy that traveled with Diablo (The Dark wanderer) in D2 was ordered to destory the soulstones by Tyreal and some of the Horadrim (None of which where Cain) and Cain was never involved in any of that plot.
2.If Cain was the cuase of all these problems why would Mephisto,Diablo,and Baal's minons still be targeting him as a threat unless they are just following Cains order's to make the plot seem good.
3.Decard Cain did in fact suggest the idea of destorying the Worldstone to Tyreal but Tyreal himself made the decision to destory it not Cain
I've got it..................................Tyrael is Azmodan, Cain is Belial;Diablo,Meph, and Baal see them as threats because they are trying to take rule of Hell or Sanctuary. Cain and Tyrael are kind of best buds, Cain is one old geezer and seems to never die what is he like 120 now. He went to Tristram Cathedral because that holds the answer to forever ridding themselves of The Three Prime Evils. This would open up to the ruling of Belial and Azmodan. Cain always seems to be caught yes and is never killed yes. Kind of odd that Cain lived right near the place where a Prime Evils bidding was taking place in D1. Odd that Cain is the only survivor of the Horadrim yet they are supposed to have been extinct. How in the hell does he know how to kill and/or complete every creature and objective of every quest in D2 and D1 lol (funny but being serious). Tyrael and Cain have both been the sources of the plot, so i conclude Cain is Belial and Tyrael Azmodan if I am wron so be it Im just throwing my theory out there and to me it makes a lot of sense
I've got it..................................Tyrael is Azmodan, Cain is Belial
I had that thought yesterday, briefly, quickly dismissing it because:
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Cain and Tyrael are kind of best buds
Belial and Azmodan are bitter enemies who would be at each other's throats faster than you could blink. They've been warring each other over Hell for centuries.
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Cain is not corrupted, as he helped every hero in their quest since Diablo 1. What explains he has survived in Tristram?, you say: He was old and the last of the Horadrim. They caged him so that he stays in the storyline.
Then, what explains he has survived in Harrogath? The destruction of the worldstone has not destroyed Harrogath, only the chamber (maybe Mt. Arreat).
Then, in Diablo 3, Cain was looking for the presence of Evil in Tristram because he felt that the destruction of the worldstone had corrupted a part of the world.
For Blizzard, Cain is only a witness of all the story of Diablo.
And for Tyrael, he was never corrupted. Angels don't usually help mortals, but Tyrael did. BUT, he was probably corrupted by the destruction of the worldstone and he helped Diablo. (Meteor from the sky).
They also say in the introduction text (frontpage) : the heroes of Sanctuary to defend the mortal world against the rising powers of the Burning Hells – and even the failing luminaries of the High Heavens itself.
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Baal would have wanted to corrupt the Worldstone whether or not you did what you did.
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Lol, okay. Tyrael is the one who destroyed it, and of his own volition. Cain commented on it later, after the magic rock was blown to pieces by the Azure Wrath.
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The only way this would be feasible would be if it turns out that Cain is actually Belial (being the Lord of Lies) in mortal form, much like Diablo walked in the guise of the Wanderer for a while. Then it would make sense, perhaps Belial had some nefarious plot to off the Three and allow his own armies to invade. I suppose this would explain Cain's age. But then again aren't Belial and Azmodan still at each other's throats? How could Belial leave Hell with the civil war raging as strong as ever? He's not going to leave his army completely leaderless. If this is the case why is Cain trying to stop/spread information about the impending Hellish invasion?
Here's another thing to think about, why would Blizzard have a plot "twist" that everyone's expecting. Not much of a twist then is it?
No, if Blizzard is clever they're going to have plot twists that are completely unexpected, or they will fulfill the expected "twists" in ways unlooked for.
Otherwise the Worldstone is destroyed and Cain is murdered by the invading armies of Hell like everyone else. Now why in God's name would he be trying to achieve his own death if he's evil, it's just not an intelligent goal.
Blizzard also has to have some iconic characters that live through Diablo 3 also, so if Tyrael and Cain are betrayers (and consequently die), who's left?
I suppose if Blizzard wanted to twist the living crap out of the story they could make it work, but otherwise I don't think so. When you're expecting all of the characters to betray, you know that betrayal has been overdone in the fantasy universe you're talking about.
never really thought of it that way. great analysis :thumbsup:
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It is stated somewhere that Cain travelled to the Tristram Cathedral in earch of some information. It seems entirely possible that they captured Cain while he was wandering the place and did something to him. Imagine for a moment that they are a Cult of Belial.
Edit: Great title on that concept art in the lower right. I hadn't noticed the resemblance.
‘I'M NOT LEAVING UNTIL WE ALL HAVE AIDS!’—The importance of calling them ‘mercenaries.’
1) Cain was captured in Diablo II and not killed because he is a Horadrim, and, as such, would be a valuable asset to the Prime Evils with his vast knowledge and would probably make a good minion once corrupted, which takes time and energy from the soulstones/Prime Evils/a major demonic power.
2) He has not been "captured" in Diablo III in the sense that he was in Diablo II. In Diablo III he has a handful of other men with him, guarding him against the cultists, undead, and demonics plagueing the lower levels of the Cathedral, which they openly fight and kill along side you in the new game (which disproves any upcoming argument that the men with him are demons, since demons have no need to kill themselves.)
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Belial and Azmodan are bitter enemies who would be at each other's throats faster than you could blink. They've been warring each other over Hell for centuries.
‘I'M NOT LEAVING UNTIL WE ALL HAVE AIDS!’—The importance of calling them ‘mercenaries.’
Then, what explains he has survived in Harrogath? The destruction of the worldstone has not destroyed Harrogath, only the chamber (maybe Mt. Arreat).
Then, in Diablo 3, Cain was looking for the presence of Evil in Tristram because he felt that the destruction of the worldstone had corrupted a part of the world.
For Blizzard, Cain is only a witness of all the story of Diablo.
And for Tyrael, he was never corrupted. Angels don't usually help mortals, but Tyrael did. BUT, he was probably corrupted by the destruction of the worldstone and he helped Diablo. (Meteor from the sky).
They also say in the introduction text (frontpage) : the heroes of Sanctuary to defend the mortal world against the rising powers of the Burning Hells – and even the failing luminaries of the High Heavens itself.