ok. im freaking tired of stupid pub game with all the bm people. can anyone direct me to a good pvp char guide that will be able to rape the bm noobs until they leave the games. ive looked all over the internet now for at least 2 hours and havent found one that fits my play style. please dont post like smiter guides or hammerdin guides. stuff not seen normally, yet very effective. it has to be fun too. because if you cant have fun with a char, then why make it in the first place? also, im fairly rich. i can get almost anything i need. so almost anything goes. All in all, if anyone has some fun, effective pvp/bm killer builds they want to share, please post it. any guide will be considered and appreciated. just please dont post those regular kinds of char u normally see.
another thing i should add. im more of a person who likes playing casters (other than druids, not sure why i dont like playing windy druids.) melee chars are okay. but, i find casters more fun. again. any guide is accepted, just dont post smiter or hammerdin builds or stuff like that which is seen normally. so thanks to any people who even post about a certain guide they find fun and effective for pvp, thanks even more for the people who post some gear and skill recommendations for the character build they were mentioning. when i find a build id like to play and test it out, ill post again to tell u guys the results.
Your talking about a almost 10 year old game lol.....pretty much any effective pvp build has been used for years now lol.....well I guess pre 1.10 builds dont count......I guess wwsins arent seen a LOT usually you could try making one with a Gchaos and Gfury maybe?....WC barbs can own but generally they suck unless you find the best gear and pratice a lot with them...thats all I can think of right now thats out of the ordinary but still can be effective......guarenteed someone will say make some shit like a martial arts sin or a frenzy barb lol
ww sin are pretty common, at least on west.
but i agree that it would be good for the job IF
1) you had a few set ups
2) you are good at the sin (it's a build that is notoriously hard to master - and also it is affected by lag worse than other builds)
the reason i say a few set ups is because ideally you would have a set up with high trap damage, and then also a set up where you could go into high physical ww damage (and high venom)... and gear that fits into both of those to get your ar up and stack resists and/or absorb when you need to.
just simply trap + venom with low ww damage can be countered by absorb and antidote potions.
(now you can still pin them down with 174 fcr set up and wake.. but may not be able to kill or rather it will be too slow)
and simply high ww damage but low traps is not as effective vs the normal pub crowd.
so you'd want a 65/48 set up where you could go for physical damage and high venom (would be basically just switching out some charms and possibly claw - you say you like casters, so i assume you wouldn't be making this your primary set up. but if you did like it you could do skills differently and forgo the higher trap option in order to get more damage and ar through claw mastery)
a 65 or102/48 set up where you could go for high trap damage and just 35-40 or so venom.
a set up where you can get to 102fcr/86fhr
and a set up where you can get to 174 fcr to pin with wake
ww sin is very fun and capable.
doesn't die easily (good block/dr/res/life at all times), can stack resists without sacrificing too much (for fc zons for instance), venom and open wounds owns es, aa palys/necs/dru will get sick of you if every time they jump on you you pin them with mb (if you don't/can't kill them), charge vs ww takes some finesse to hit you, you can ww into town with 1 life not to die..
uh i can't think of any other benefits right now, but there are more. it's a fun pvper.
..and traps are awesome at tg and nk (though i don't condone it -_-)
edit:
(if interested in making this pm me and i'll help you with it)
and if sin isnt for you and all you want to do is bm people then i suggest an auradin
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Great post blood-doll, also cant believe I forgot auradins XD
Heres another build that sometimes works with practice. Nova sorc with infinity....ive seen them own and get raped in many games. I think with enough practice they can be very viable in pvp...the only thing thats gonna seriously rip the shit outta you is ww barbs and sins since you have no block
ok. im freaking tired of stupid pub game with all the bm people. can anyone direct me to a good pvp char guide that will be able to rape the bm noobs until they leave the games. ive looked all over the internet now for at least 2 hours and havent found one that fits my play style. please dont post like smiter guides or hammerdin guides. stuff not seen normally, yet very effective. it has to be fun too. because if you cant have fun with a char, then why make it in the first place? also, im fairly rich. i can get almost anything i need. so almost anything goes. All in all, if anyone has some fun, effective pvp/bm killer builds they want to share, please post it. any guide will be considered and appreciated. just please dont post those regular kinds of char u normally see.
another thing i should add. im more of a person who likes playing casters (other than druids, not sure why i dont like playing windy druids.) melee chars are okay. but, i find casters more fun. again. any guide is accepted, just dont post smiter or hammerdin builds or stuff like that which is seen normally. so thanks to any people who even post about a certain guide they find fun and effective for pvp, thanks even more for the people who post some gear and skill recommendations for the character build they were mentioning. when i find a build id like to play and test it out, ill post again to tell u guys the results.
Oh boy, i have the solution for you... FC javazon. Yes, it is using an exploit, but you wont regret it. If you master this, you are literally invincible to anything. These guys are hella cheap and hella BM, but it will get the job done. You will kill anything in just a couple hits. 5 max... I hate going against these guys.
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ww sin are pretty common, at least on west.
but i agree that it would be good for the job IF
1) you had a few set ups
2) you are good at the sin (it's a build that is notoriously hard to master - and also it is affected by lag worse than other builds)
the reason i say a few set ups is because ideally you would have a set up with high trap damage, and then also a set up where you could go into high physical ww damage (and high venom)... and gear that fits into both of those to get your ar up and stack resists and/or absorb when you need to.
just simply trap + venom with low ww damage can be countered by absorb and antidote potions.
(now you can still pin them down with 174 fcr set up and wake.. but may not be able to kill or rather it will be too slow)
and simply high ww damage but low traps is not as effective vs the normal pub crowd.
so you'd want a 65/48 set up where you could go for physical damage and high venom (would be basically just switching out some charms and possibly claw - you say you like casters, so i assume you wouldn't be making this your primary set up. but if you did like it you could do skills differently and forgo the higher trap option in order to get more damage and ar through claw mastery)
a 65 or102/48 set up where you could go for high trap damage and just 35-40 or so venom.
a set up where you can get to 102fcr/86fhr
and a set up where you can get to 174 fcr to pin with wake
ww sin is very fun and capable.
doesn't die easily (good block/dr/res/life at all times), can stack resists without sacrificing too much (for fc zons for instance), venom and open wounds owns es, aa palys/necs/dru will get sick of you if every time they jump on you you pin them with mb (if you don't/can't kill them), charge vs ww takes some finesse to hit you, you can ww into town with 1 life not to die..
uh i can't think of any other benefits right now, but there are more. it's a fun pvper.
..and traps are awesome at tg and nk (though i don't condone it -_-)
edit:
(if interested in making this pm me and i'll help you with it)
and if sin isnt for you and all you want to do is bm people then i suggest an auradin
ww sins sound like fun. ill probably make on at a later time. right now ive decided what kind of character im going to make but im going to try out a ww sin as soon as im done with my other characters gear and stuff. the leveling and what not for chars is pretty easy for me, it just takes longer to get the gear. but ill definaltey make one in the near future, at that time ill pm u for some help. just one question though, how expensive is the gear for a ww sin, and if they use crappy gear can they still be effective.
anyway, ive decided to make two pvp character though. one is about finished, hes a bone necro, i just need a nigma and he should be pretty decent, ive been able to lower peoples health pretty fast, but all of em run away and hide in town or manage to tele bomb me and kill me. the second second character im gonna make is a nova-sorc. for the sorc ive decided ima find all the gear and stuff for her before leveling her up or anything.
the last thing i have to say is, thank you to everybody for the suggestions. ill post later on how effective the characters are at dueling, right now though, im going to sleep because im tired and in later when i wake up, im going to start looking for gear for my new characters. well.... good night.
Oh boy, i have the solution for you... FC javazon. Yes, it is using an exploit, but you wont regret it. If you master this, you are literally invincible to anything. These guys are hella cheap and hella BM, but it will get the job done. You will kill anything in just a couple hits. 5 max... I hate going against these guys.
Lol I hate farcast zons. I would prefer legit farcast
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Lol I hate farcast zons. I would prefer legit farcast
No such thing as a legit farcast.
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Isnt there a way to do it without a hack? Like with a bow or some shit....I remember years ago there was not sure if that still works
FC is a mod that you download that edits client side files to make a melee attack or projectiles take straight damage. basically it removes the time and distance it takes for the projectile to travel to the target.
sadly... its not detectable and it probably wont be till .13 patch...
By editing these client side character and game mechanic files, ive seen some pretty jacked up effects. I remember a couple months ago, i was dueling this necro and he started using teeth, they were coming out so fast to the point where you couldnt see anything on your screen but the teeth spell. I figured this guy found out how to remove the cast rate cap so he could poor out his spells. it was pretty freaky. shit like that needs to be fixed asap cuz its still possible.
Soo, technically its not a hack, its just a program that automatically edits client side files. When i think of a "hack" now adays, i think of code being injected into a string or a process.
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FC is a mod that you download that edits client side files to make a melee attack or projectiles take straight damage. basically it removes the time and distance it takes for the projectile to travel to the target.
sadly... its not detectable and it probably wont be till .13 patch...
By editing these client side character and game mechanic files, ive seen some pretty jacked up effects. I remember a couple months ago, i was dueling this necro and he started using teeth, they were coming out so fast to the point where you couldnt see anything on your screen but the teeth spell. I figured this guy found out how to remove the cast rate cap so he could poor out his spells. it was pretty freaky. shit like that needs to be fixed asap cuz its still possible.
Soo, technically its not a hack, its just a program that automatically edits client side files. When i think of a "hack" now adays, i think of code being injected into a string or a process.
Yeah I know there is a program that makes it easy to do but I seem to recall a legit way todo it with no help from other souces...it was using an exploit with bow and jav wep switch...I dunno this was a long time ago (1.10) so it might be long gone
Yeah I know there is a program that makes it easy to do but I seem to recall a legit way todo it with no help from other souces...it was using an exploit with bow and jav wep switch...I dunno this was a long time ago (1.10) so it might be long gone
Oh ok, I know what your talking about now. Yes, your right, and it is still very possible. This isnt really a legit "farcast" but i know what you mean.
The method of rapidly switching weps to confuse the game is called dysnching. In order to achieve this you need a high ping. It is more common to see this happen with people who can run so fast that the game looses their location, then thats how you can pk in town and not show up on the radar. This can also be used to make a ranged weapon attack with melee. (maybe they fixed that now idk... I still see people doing this today(mainly glass cannon zons). Then you end up seeing arrows come out of nowhere and killing you.
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Oh ok, I know what your talking about now. Yes, your right, and it is still very possible. This isnt really a legit "farcast" but i know what you mean.
The method of rapidly switching weps to confuse the game is called dysnching. In order to achieve this you need a high ping. It is more common to see this happen with people who can run so fast that the game looses their location, then thats how you can pk in town and not show up on the radar. This can also be used to make a ranged weapon attack with melee. (maybe they fixed that now idk... I still see people doing this today(mainly glass cannon zons). Then you end up seeing arrows come out of nowhere and killing you.
thats it :P.....smiters/chargers did this a lot lol....man that was annoying
thats it :P.....smiters/chargers did this a lot lol....man that was annoying
yea dude. Ive done it a couple times on my ww barb and have taken out everyone in town. i run so fast, sometimes i desynch the server and kill mobs without them attacking me back. Its hella cheap though so i feel kinda guilty sometimes...
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yea dude. Ive done it a couple times on my ww barb and have taken out everyone in town. i run so fast, sometimes i desynch the server and kill mobs without them attacking me back. Its hella cheap though so i feel kinda guilty sometimes...
screw it the games old and exploited worse then that for almost 10 years now hahahah
Yes there is. If you take your javazon and put say chareged strike on x and then put lightning striek as z and and you name lock them and keep switching out the skills vary fast it will appear as if you are farcasting.
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Heres another build that sometimes works with practice. Nova sorc with infinity....ive seen them own and get raped in many games. I think with enough practice they can be very viable in pvp...the only thing thats gonna seriously rip the shit outta you is ww barbs and sins since you have no block
max es infinity nova sorcs are so good. I had one and it was my fave pvp char, so fun to use. I've always been a sucker for those circular move chars like poison nova necs & hammerdins. Could kill 95% of people in pub games easyyyy. The only downfall tho, and this counts for all sorcs, trap sins etc, is that it's possible for people to just throw on all sorbing gear and have stacked res so you literally can't hurt them. So the only chars I couldnt defeat were people with mass sorb on, so I would just leave those guys alone and other players in the game would just take them out for me lol.
Max es with insane mana is the best, makes you tank more than any other character, it's like having 6k mana with crazy mana regeneration and 1k+ life so basically 7k life all up that regenerates lol. And nova itself is a stun move, so you stun lock them and they can't move. All sorcs & necros would die in 1 or 2 novas, barbs & smiters prob around 4-7 but with the stun lock they can't move so you just spam it & they're dead. Also a couple times I would 1 hit sorcs etc with just my thunderstorm alone lol. It's also fun to just throw on cyclone armor from the infinity and get fade to pvp with.
anyways I haven't read all the posts here, but if you want a character that is effective vs all chars, cannot be sorbed, cannot be blocked & isn't a hdin or smiter then I recommend a Bone Necro. Trap sins, fc zons, all sorcs can all be sorbed & stacked res and you always have people in games who just have loads of sorbing gear in their stash for such occassions. But bone necros can't be blocked or sorbed. They may do a fair bit less dmg than other classes, and they're alot harder to use than almost all other classes, but a very skilled player with a bone nec is one of the hardest classes to pvp against.
I used to have an auradin and it kicked ass! You just need to know how to use its exploit :P. Which is pretty lame actually, but increddibly strong XD.
Yeah aura stacking is very very broken lolololol
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another thing i should add. im more of a person who likes playing casters (other than druids, not sure why i dont like playing windy druids.) melee chars are okay. but, i find casters more fun. again. any guide is accepted, just dont post smiter or hammerdin builds or stuff like that which is seen normally. so thanks to any people who even post about a certain guide they find fun and effective for pvp, thanks even more for the people who post some gear and skill recommendations for the character build they were mentioning. when i find a build id like to play and test it out, ill post again to tell u guys the results.
Your talking about a almost 10 year old game lol.....pretty much any effective pvp build has been used for years now lol.....well I guess pre 1.10 builds dont count......I guess wwsins arent seen a LOT usually you could try making one with a Gchaos and Gfury maybe?....WC barbs can own but generally they suck unless you find the best gear and pratice a lot with them...thats all I can think of right now thats out of the ordinary but still can be effective......guarenteed someone will say make some shit like a martial arts sin or a frenzy barb lol
but i agree that it would be good for the job IF
1) you had a few set ups
2) you are good at the sin (it's a build that is notoriously hard to master - and also it is affected by lag worse than other builds)
the reason i say a few set ups is because ideally you would have a set up with high trap damage, and then also a set up where you could go into high physical ww damage (and high venom)... and gear that fits into both of those to get your ar up and stack resists and/or absorb when you need to.
just simply trap + venom with low ww damage can be countered by absorb and antidote potions.
(now you can still pin them down with 174 fcr set up and wake.. but may not be able to kill or rather it will be too slow)
and simply high ww damage but low traps is not as effective vs the normal pub crowd.
so you'd want a 65/48 set up where you could go for physical damage and high venom (would be basically just switching out some charms and possibly claw - you say you like casters, so i assume you wouldn't be making this your primary set up. but if you did like it you could do skills differently and forgo the higher trap option in order to get more damage and ar through claw mastery)
a 65 or102/48 set up where you could go for high trap damage and just 35-40 or so venom.
a set up where you can get to 102fcr/86fhr
and a set up where you can get to 174 fcr to pin with wake
ww sin is very fun and capable.
doesn't die easily (good block/dr/res/life at all times), can stack resists without sacrificing too much (for fc zons for instance), venom and open wounds owns es, aa palys/necs/dru will get sick of you if every time they jump on you you pin them with mb (if you don't/can't kill them), charge vs ww takes some finesse to hit you, you can ww into town with 1 life not to die..
uh i can't think of any other benefits right now, but there are more. it's a fun pvper.
..and traps are awesome at tg and nk (though i don't condone it -_-)
edit:
(if interested in making this pm me and i'll help you with it)
and if sin isnt for you and all you want to do is bm people then i suggest an auradin
they'll never see me coming..
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Heres another build that sometimes works with practice. Nova sorc with infinity....ive seen them own and get raped in many games. I think with enough practice they can be very viable in pvp...the only thing thats gonna seriously rip the shit outta you is ww barbs and sins since you have no block
Oh boy, i have the solution for you... FC javazon. Yes, it is using an exploit, but you wont regret it. If you master this, you are literally invincible to anything. These guys are hella cheap and hella BM, but it will get the job done. You will kill anything in just a couple hits. 5 max... I hate going against these guys.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God. -Epicurus-Athiests- Winning since 33 A.D
ww sins sound like fun. ill probably make on at a later time. right now ive decided what kind of character im going to make but im going to try out a ww sin as soon as im done with my other characters gear and stuff. the leveling and what not for chars is pretty easy for me, it just takes longer to get the gear. but ill definaltey make one in the near future, at that time ill pm u for some help. just one question though, how expensive is the gear for a ww sin, and if they use crappy gear can they still be effective.
anyway, ive decided to make two pvp character though. one is about finished, hes a bone necro, i just need a nigma and he should be pretty decent, ive been able to lower peoples health pretty fast, but all of em run away and hide in town or manage to tele bomb me and kill me. the second second character im gonna make is a nova-sorc. for the sorc ive decided ima find all the gear and stuff for her before leveling her up or anything.
the last thing i have to say is, thank you to everybody for the suggestions. ill post later on how effective the characters are at dueling, right now though, im going to sleep because im tired and in later when i wake up, im going to start looking for gear for my new characters. well.... good night.
Lol I hate farcast zons. I would prefer legit farcast
If you want to arrange it
This world you can change it
If we could somehow make this
Christmas thing last
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Or even a stranger
And to know who needs help
You need only just ask
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God. -Epicurus-Athiests- Winning since 33 A.D
Isnt there a way to do it without a hack? Like with a bow or some shit....I remember years ago there was not sure if that still works
sadly... its not detectable and it probably wont be till .13 patch...
By editing these client side character and game mechanic files, ive seen some pretty jacked up effects. I remember a couple months ago, i was dueling this necro and he started using teeth, they were coming out so fast to the point where you couldnt see anything on your screen but the teeth spell. I figured this guy found out how to remove the cast rate cap so he could poor out his spells. it was pretty freaky. shit like that needs to be fixed asap cuz its still possible.
Soo, technically its not a hack, its just a program that automatically edits client side files. When i think of a "hack" now adays, i think of code being injected into a string or a process.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God. -Epicurus-Athiests- Winning since 33 A.D
Yeah I know there is a program that makes it easy to do but I seem to recall a legit way todo it with no help from other souces...it was using an exploit with bow and jav wep switch...I dunno this was a long time ago (1.10) so it might be long gone
Oh ok, I know what your talking about now. Yes, your right, and it is still very possible. This isnt really a legit "farcast" but i know what you mean.
The method of rapidly switching weps to confuse the game is called dysnching. In order to achieve this you need a high ping. It is more common to see this happen with people who can run so fast that the game looses their location, then thats how you can pk in town and not show up on the radar. This can also be used to make a ranged weapon attack with melee. (maybe they fixed that now idk... I still see people doing this today(mainly glass cannon zons). Then you end up seeing arrows come out of nowhere and killing you.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God. -Epicurus-Athiests- Winning since 33 A.D
thats it :P.....smiters/chargers did this a lot lol....man that was annoying
yea dude. Ive done it a couple times on my ww barb and have taken out everyone in town. i run so fast, sometimes i desynch the server and kill mobs without them attacking me back. Its hella cheap though so i feel kinda guilty sometimes...
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God. -Epicurus-Athiests- Winning since 33 A.D
screw it the games old and exploited worse then that for almost 10 years now hahahah
Yes there is. If you take your javazon and put say chareged strike on x and then put lightning striek as z and and you name lock them and keep switching out the skills vary fast it will appear as if you are farcasting.
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max es infinity nova sorcs are so good. I had one and it was my fave pvp char, so fun to use. I've always been a sucker for those circular move chars like poison nova necs & hammerdins. Could kill 95% of people in pub games easyyyy. The only downfall tho, and this counts for all sorcs, trap sins etc, is that it's possible for people to just throw on all sorbing gear and have stacked res so you literally can't hurt them. So the only chars I couldnt defeat were people with mass sorb on, so I would just leave those guys alone and other players in the game would just take them out for me lol.
Max es with insane mana is the best, makes you tank more than any other character, it's like having 6k mana with crazy mana regeneration and 1k+ life so basically 7k life all up that regenerates lol. And nova itself is a stun move, so you stun lock them and they can't move. All sorcs & necros would die in 1 or 2 novas, barbs & smiters prob around 4-7 but with the stun lock they can't move so you just spam it & they're dead. Also a couple times I would 1 hit sorcs etc with just my thunderstorm alone lol. It's also fun to just throw on cyclone armor from the infinity and get fade to pvp with.
anyways I haven't read all the posts here, but if you want a character that is effective vs all chars, cannot be sorbed, cannot be blocked & isn't a hdin or smiter then I recommend a Bone Necro. Trap sins, fc zons, all sorcs can all be sorbed & stacked res and you always have people in games who just have loads of sorbing gear in their stash for such occassions. But bone necros can't be blocked or sorbed. They may do a fair bit less dmg than other classes, and they're alot harder to use than almost all other classes, but a very skilled player with a bone nec is one of the hardest classes to pvp against.
Yeah aura stacking is very very broken lolololol