Today I want to briefly discuss what's currently happening with PTR, why you can't log in, and why it's incredibly bad for the actual game. I go over the community buff, the queue times, lack of proper testing, and why teasing 'normal' players with ridiculous buffs will ultimately drive them away. Enjoy and good luck getting in!
it is ok to write if you are showing some build, but why write some thoughts about something when he already spoke it
@topic, I agree, I just wanted to check out monk monky set change and I can not do it because this cue thing
I don't know about the rest of the community, but I absolutely hate it when people speak their thoughts in videos instead of text. I can't watch videos at work and so it immediately locks me out of conversations.
On-topic: Yeah, this PTR community buff is ending very soon. Are people going to complain? Yes. Are people already always complaining about literally everything? Yes.
Diablo 3 has one of the shittiest fan-bases that I've ever seen. You can see it in the Reddit threads, you can see it on Diablo Fans, and you can see it on the official forums. They're always complaining. Nothing is ever going to stop them from complaining. So, is it really so bad if they complain for a week or two about the PTR drop rate? No.
The way I understand it, queue times vary by difficulty. In other words, yeah, you've got an hour+ queue on Torment 6, but 1-10 minutes queues on the lower torments.
You guys don't seem to realise that it's a PTR... they are not interested in everyone logging in and having fun. No one gives a shit about your experience on a PTR so get over it.
The only thing i slightly agree about is that people get used to crazy drop rates and then live will feel boring to them but that's a non-issue tbh.
I think some people are completely missing the point, or 2 rather. So I'll reiterate why this is bad:
1) Crazy buff hype means a large group of players who are simply bored with the game currently and just want to have some fun, but have no intention of actually providing feedback, flood the PTR servers. Blizz should have seen this coming and either modified the buff OR increased server capacity.
2) A lot of those same people will soon (already starting) flood the forums here, d3, reddit, etc with QQ on why they can't get legendaries or ancient items fast enough, completely ignoring the fact that it's PTR. And, a lot of those same people who hopped on PTR because of the buff will stop playing the game shortly after once they realize it's back to grinding.
I dunno, it's just a trend I've noticed, maybe some people just don't see it.
People are going to complain no matter what. So that point is moot.
Fully agree that the over-the-top buff may be attracting the wrong crowd. The inherent problem therein; They have to spoon feed those shinies in order to get them into circulation for testing.
I just wish that players who aren't serious about testing would stay away. I also wish I could shit gold nuggets.....so.....
I think some people are completely missing the point, or 2 rather. So I'll reiterate why this is bad:
1) Crazy buff hype means a large group of players who are simply bored with the game currently and just want to have some fun, but have no intention of actually providing feedback, flood the PTR servers. Blizz should have seen this coming and either modified the buff OR increased server capacity.
There's nothing stopping people from lowering their Torment level and getting faster queues that way. Or, at least, that's what I'm reading -- lowering your torment level drops your queue time from 50+ minutes to 5-10 minutes.
2) A lot of those same people will soon (already starting) flood the forums here, d3, reddit, etc with QQ on why they can't get legendaries or ancient items fast enough, completely ignoring the fact that it's PTR. And, a lot of those same people who hopped on PTR because of the buff will stop playing the game shortly after once they realize it's back to grinding.
I dunno, it's just a trend I've noticed, maybe some people just don't see it.
You're absolutely right... people will complain. But how is this at all different than your average Diablo forum experience? People complain every PTR cycle. People complain after patch releases. People complain constantly. It never stops and it'll never stop. There's no point in worrying about the community complaining, because that's just what they do. In fact, it's pretty much ALL they do when they're not playing the game. Indeed, some of them are even complaining while playing. It's like Diablo's favorite pastime.
I think some people are completely missing the point, or 2 rather. So I'll reiterate why this is bad:
1) Crazy buff hype means a large group of players who are simply bored with the game currently and just want to have some fun, but have no intention of actually providing feedback, flood the PTR servers. Blizz should have seen this coming and either modified the buff OR increased server capacity.
2) A lot of those same people will soon (already starting) flood the forums here, d3, reddit, etc with QQ on why they can't get legendaries or ancient items fast enough, completely ignoring the fact that it's PTR. And, a lot of those same people who hopped on PTR because of the buff will stop playing the game shortly after once they realize it's back to grinding.
I dunno, it's just a trend I've noticed, maybe some people just don't see it.
Sounds like they actually care about feedback. Lol.
[quote=FsBelphegor;/members/284154-fsbelphegor;/forums/diablo-iii-general-forums/diablo-iii-general-discussion/97552-ptr-2-1-2-why-ptr-buffs-are-bad-video?comment=2]The point of the buff has been very well explained in the official forum: Allowing PTR players to actually get high geared for PTR season 2.
Seems like it would have been a better idea if they'd just restricted the buff to only new seasonal characters.
It seems they want players to test PTR out but avoid leveling. So wouldn't it have been simpler to just copy the existing lvl 70 characters to the PTR?
Or they could have just made all the drops, including seasonal legendaries, drop for non seasonal as well, and instaboosted every seasonal character to 70, without any buffs. The first part is already in place (currently the season only gems drop in non seasons), the second part could take a bit of work.
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@topic, I agree, I just wanted to check out monk monky set change and I can not do it because this cue thing
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On-topic: Yeah, this PTR community buff is ending very soon. Are people going to complain? Yes. Are people already always complaining about literally everything? Yes.
Diablo 3 has one of the shittiest fan-bases that I've ever seen. You can see it in the Reddit threads, you can see it on Diablo Fans, and you can see it on the official forums. They're always complaining. Nothing is ever going to stop them from complaining. So, is it really so bad if they complain for a week or two about the PTR drop rate? No.
The only thing i slightly agree about is that people get used to crazy drop rates and then live will feel boring to them but that's a non-issue tbh.
1) Crazy buff hype means a large group of players who are simply bored with the game currently and just want to have some fun, but have no intention of actually providing feedback, flood the PTR servers. Blizz should have seen this coming and either modified the buff OR increased server capacity.
2) A lot of those same people will soon (already starting) flood the forums here, d3, reddit, etc with QQ on why they can't get legendaries or ancient items fast enough, completely ignoring the fact that it's PTR. And, a lot of those same people who hopped on PTR because of the buff will stop playing the game shortly after once they realize it's back to grinding.
I dunno, it's just a trend I've noticed, maybe some people just don't see it.
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Fully agree that the over-the-top buff may be attracting the wrong crowd. The inherent problem therein; They have to spoon feed those shinies in order to get them into circulation for testing.
I just wish that players who aren't serious about testing would stay away. I also wish I could shit gold nuggets.....so.....
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You're absolutely right... people will complain. But how is this at all different than your average Diablo forum experience? People complain every PTR cycle. People complain after patch releases. People complain constantly. It never stops and it'll never stop. There's no point in worrying about the community complaining, because that's just what they do. In fact, it's pretty much ALL they do when they're not playing the game. Indeed, some of them are even complaining while playing. It's like Diablo's favorite pastime.
Seems like it would have been a better idea if they'd just restricted the buff to only new seasonal characters.
Seems like it would have been a better idea if they'd just restricted the buff to only new seasonal characters.
^Great idea !!
^GG /thread
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