Okay so how it used to be is whatever wave you were on you got a keystone 5 levels below that wave. now they changes it to 10, this doesnt sound like a big deal but let me assure you , it is a HUGE deal. wave 46 to 51 is like going from t4 to t 6. so congrats to everyone who made it on the leaderboards, you've secured your positions for the rest of the seasons. everyone give them a round of applause while half the population quits from major changes mid season. im going to lol when i log on each day to see the same top 10 not move at all on every class. i guess a lot of people already quit from the exploit and lack of builds and sets though. i feel like this season is ruined, and anyone who thinks they can get to wave 56 on the solo barbarian leaderboards is joking themselves. blizzard should NOT be making these changes mid season. its not okay and not fair to everyone who worked so hard to get gear and hasnt started competing seriously yet.
they changed the way it is determined which greater rift stone you get from the trial, they didn't change the dificulty of the greater rifts with this change. You make no sense.
they changed the way it is determined which greater rift stone you get from the trial, they didn't change the dificulty of the greater rifts with this change. You make no sense.
The Issue is that to compete with those at the top of the leaderboard you must now complete several rifts in succession to have a chance at a rift that will allow you to challenge those at the top of the leaderboard. For example, in my 3 player group we used to be able to obtain level 44 keystones, now we are able to obtain level 39 keystones, so in order to get higher on the leaderboard we must work our way from a 39 completing 4-5 rifts in succession in order to get a level 44 keystone. This makes it a lot harder to get back to a 44 and if you get a bad rift anywhere between 39-44, you have to start all over again.
Most of the people who are the top of the leaderboard more easily farmed high level keystones and just ran them until they found a good one and ranked, now you have to find several good rifts in a row to rank. This is the issue now. Something needs to be done about this, either they revert the change or reset the leaderboards.
NO ONE WILLEVER EVEREVEREVER BE ABLE TO CHALLENGE THE TOP PLAYERS BECAUSE THEYLL HAVE TO TRY A WITTLE HARDER WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
NO ONE WILLEVER EVEREVEREVER BE ABLE TO CHALLENGE THE TOP PLAYERS BECAUSE THEYLL HAVE TO TRY A WITTLE HARDER WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Sidenote; Fireball never stops being awesome
It wouldn't be an issue if it was a little harder. But as soon as all stockpiled high level greater rift keys are used up, the top spots on the leaderboard are not likely to change. Making changes mid season creates an uneven playing field, its as simple as that, I'm not trying to be dramatic.
This season was over 2 weeks in, don't understand all this fuss. Think of season 1 as a test season, the season of Conduit shrines and empty rift levels... some people can be such drama queens sometimes.
I'm surprised about how much hate this guy is getting... He makes a valid point, they've released a patch which makes it vastly harder to achieve a higher ranking, regardless of if you bother to compete or even play seasons some people are and even in the last couple of days people having been obtaining rank 1 spots so changes like this are just bad for the idea of competition.
This season was over 2 weeks in, don't understand all this fuss. Think of season 1 as a test season, the season of Conduit shrines and empty rift levels... some people can be such drama queens sometimes.
You're right since they were over 2 weeks in, who cares what else is done to wreck them further. Not trying to be a drama queen, the point I'm trying to make was that it was a poor change especially since it was done during a season.
NO ONE WILLEVER EVEREVEREVER BE ABLE TO CHALLENGE THE TOP PLAYERS BECAUSE THEYLL HAVE TO TRY A WITTLE HARDER WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Sidenote; Fireball never stops being awesome
It wouldn't be an issue if it was a little harder. But as soon as all stockpiled high level greater rift keys are used up, the top spots on the leaderboard are not likely to change. Making changes mid season creates an uneven playing field, its as simple as that, I'm not trying to be dramatic.
What on earth are you talking about? So because it'l take a little longer to get to the Grift you're trying to complete, that suddenly means everyone in the top 10 has cemented their spot?
You guys are high
This season was over 2 weeks in, don't understand all this fuss. Think of season 1 as a test season, the season of Conduit shrines and empty rift levels... some people can be such drama queens sometimes.
I totally agree with you, how is it that some peaple think that they CAN compete with the top players. i must say then when something new is presented in a game dont expect that it works the first time. And yes it does not seem fair that they nerfed it. and the reason u dont see any spot changes on the leaderboard is that the top players are also strugling to make progress on the leaderboard.
NO ONE WILLEVER EVEREVEREVER BE ABLE TO CHALLENGE THE TOP PLAYERS BECAUSE THEYLL HAVE TO TRY A WITTLE HARDER WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Sidenote; Fireball never stops being awesome
It wouldn't be an issue if it was a little harder. But as soon as all stockpiled high level greater rift keys are used up, the top spots on the leaderboard are not likely to change. Making changes mid season creates an uneven playing field, its as simple as that, I'm not trying to be dramatic.
What on earth are you talking about? So because it'l take a little longer to get to the Grift you're trying to complete, that suddenly means everyone in the top 10 has cemented their spot?
You guys are high
Let me explain to you how it worked before today's patch.
In groups of 4, it was relatively easy to get high level keystones, and these keystones were really higher then what you were really capable of, but if you got a good rift or a conduit pylon they were possible. So people would collect many high level keystones and if they got lucky in just ONE of those rifts they could rank.
Now with the change to trials, instead of starting at say a 48 for example, they now start at lets say a 43. Now they must complete around 4-5 rifts in order to get the opportunity to try a 48 in the hopes of getting a good rift/conduit. And all those 4-5 rifts must be decent in order for this to happen. This makes it A LOT harder.
wanna know why there's more and more people saying, ooo its just an exploit who cares, or ooo they made impossible to be on top of the leaderboards now who cares, its because you are now the vast majority of players because everyone else has already quit. and i cant blame them. hell i even quit and i love diablo. but putting hundreds and hundreds of hours just to try to compete late in the season and now i run into this...im sorry but i agree. who am i kiddiing, this season is a complete joke. and i probably wont be playing until season 3 or 4 IF its still alive by then because i dont wanna work very hard towards something and have a repeat of this season. and i think a lot of people would agree with me, they might not be here, because they quit and dont care. but if they were they would. hell my clan fell apart because of all the bs and started playing archage, now were an archeage guild lmao. just comes to show how much of a joke this season really is...and probably next.
So, what you're saying is - "We were getting a higher grift than what we're capable of, but we sometimes got lucky and finished it; and now we can't do this so we're sad because someone else's name will be etched in the broken season 1 leaderboards"? Am I getting this right? But wait, you are also playing the "We know it was kind of broken, but we're upset this was done mid-season" card...
The overwhelming opinion here seems to be "I don't care about competition in this game, therefore you shouldn't care about it either and I pity you if u do" and all I have to say to that is... wow, are you all really this self-centered? Personally, I don't care about the competition... I don't even play seasons, but I understand that there are people that do and for those people this change makes the current highest ranks almost impossible to reach again.
Yes, this is because people abused the trial system to get higher keys than they were able to do and then play the RNG game to get zombies/conduit and clear... Yes this needed to be fixed, but if there is an exploit that's caused people to achieve a higher rank then those things should get fixed between seasons not half way through... Either that or the entire ladder should be reset.
To reiterate, you may not care about competition but for some people the entire game revolves around pushing further forward, reaching the higher ranks and this change makes that impossible for them because they will likely now never push further than they did pre-patch and now have no chance of reaching higher ranks. Changes that make it harder to achieve higher ranks in GR should be applied at the end of a season, doing it during a season completely destroys the point of the ladder/competitive scene... Which in turn makes playing the game pointless for those that play for the competition.
The overwhelming opinion here seems to be "I don't care about competition in this game, therefore you shouldn't care about it either and I pity you if u do" and all I have to say to that is... wow, are you all really this self-centered? Personally, I don't care about the competition... I don't even play seasons, but I understand that there are people that do and for those people this change makes the current highest ranks almost impossible to reach again.
Yes, this is because people abused the trial system to get higher keys than they were able to do and then play the RNG game to get zombies/conduit and clear... Yes this needed to be fixed, but if there is an exploit that's caused people to achieve a higher rank then those things should get fixed between seasons not half way through... Either that or the entire ladder should be reset.
To reiterate, you may not care about competition but for some people the entire game revolves around pushing further forward, reaching the higher ranks and this change makes that impossible for them because they will likely now never push further than they did pre-patch and now have no chance of reaching higher ranks. Changes that make it harder to achieve higher ranks in GR should be applied at the end of a season, doing it during a season completely destroys the point of the ladder/competitive scene... Which in turn makes playing the game pointless for those that play for the competition.
i never said it was a bad thing that they took it out, im saying because they took it out they need to reset the leaderboards or yes it is a bad thing to everyone who is actually competing, i can see that none of you actually compete or you wouldnt be saying everything that you guys have. and its not even an exploit to get high trial keys, demon hunters are just so op they carry people to high ranks, demon hunter were super over powered in the ptr, and they didnt change much...not sure what they expected. the whole trial idea in generel is a flawed and poor system. sentries will ALWAYS dominate trials unless they get a huge nerf or make them killable. that still does not mean that demon hunters can get to wave 55 in trials...thats unheard of. and its even more unheard of to get a 40 keystone and upgrade the key 5 or 6 times. the odds are your gonna fail after 1 or 2 because of poor mob density and stacking all the hard mobs in 1 rift rather then putting a couple hard mobs in each rift. and sure you can call it a challenge to have all hard mobs like angels and mallet lords, but at higher levels it doesnt matter what class you have your not gonna pass a 44 greater rift with nothing but angels and exarchs and mallet lords. it takes way to long to kill and your being timed.
plus i could care less what people think of me, im just trying to bring attention to the issues that need to be adressed because after all blizz claims to do what the customers want, and if the customers dont care why should they pay money to change things like this?
What I mean is that, it's season 1. The very first season ever in D3. They want to use this opportunity to clean up issues, tweak and adjust as needed so that all future seasons go off much smoother, without need for further adjustments.
Most of the people who are the top of the leaderboard more easily farmed high level keystones and just ran them until they found a good one and ranked, now you have to find several good rifts in a row to rank. This is the issue now. Something needs to be done about this, either they revert the change or reset the leaderboards.
THE SEASONS RUIIIIINEEEDDDDD!!!!11!11
NO ONE WILLEVER EVEREVEREVER BE ABLE TO CHALLENGE THE TOP PLAYERS BECAUSE THEYLL HAVE TO TRY A WITTLE HARDER WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Sidenote; Fireball never stops being awesome
You guys are high
Idk about you guys, GRs feel easier now. Not sure there's a slight damager nerf or w/e
In groups of 4, it was relatively easy to get high level keystones, and these keystones were really higher then what you were really capable of, but if you got a good rift or a conduit pylon they were possible. So people would collect many high level keystones and if they got lucky in just ONE of those rifts they could rank.
Now with the change to trials, instead of starting at say a 48 for example, they now start at lets say a 43. Now they must complete around 4-5 rifts in order to get the opportunity to try a 48 in the hopes of getting a good rift/conduit. And all those 4-5 rifts must be decent in order for this to happen. This makes it A LOT harder.
And no we're not High...
Yes, this is because people abused the trial system to get higher keys than they were able to do and then play the RNG game to get zombies/conduit and clear... Yes this needed to be fixed, but if there is an exploit that's caused people to achieve a higher rank then those things should get fixed between seasons not half way through... Either that or the entire ladder should be reset.
To reiterate, you may not care about competition but for some people the entire game revolves around pushing further forward, reaching the higher ranks and this change makes that impossible for them because they will likely now never push further than they did pre-patch and now have no chance of reaching higher ranks. Changes that make it harder to achieve higher ranks in GR should be applied at the end of a season, doing it during a season completely destroys the point of the ladder/competitive scene... Which in turn makes playing the game pointless for those that play for the competition.
plus i could care less what people think of me, im just trying to bring attention to the issues that need to be adressed because after all blizz claims to do what the customers want, and if the customers dont care why should they pay money to change things like this?
What I mean is that, it's season 1. The very first season ever in D3. They want to use this opportunity to clean up issues, tweak and adjust as needed so that all future seasons go off much smoother, without need for further adjustments.
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