Bring back TRADE, or fix your RNG!!!

  • #25
    YOu know, I've got maybe 7 green items, and two of those ARE Balck Thornes, but they're ok coupled with three "old" Blackthornes on the same character WITH a Glory, I get good elite damage/mitigation and it's not my main, but it helps.

    Got a Danetta's, a Wailing ring, few other items, two more Glory's too, but I play more than the avergae player (totally guessing) but I also play solo alot, so who knows if it's better/worse. I don't, and I don't care. I just like to play...
  • #26
  • #27
    You know...play some more...that will kinda help.
  • #28
    Quote from oldschool_2o4f

    YOu know, I've got maybe 7 green items, and two of those ARE Balck Thornes, but they're ok coupled with three "old" Blackthornes on the same character WITH a Glory, I get good elite damage/mitigation and it's not my main, but it helps.

    Got a Danetta's, a Wailing ring, few other items, two more Glory's too, but I play more than the avergae player (totally guessing) but I also play solo alot, so who knows if it's better/worse. I don't, and I don't care. I just like to play...



    Awesome thanks for sharing.

    Indeed luck is on your side with a few good set drops, i'm happy to hear it.

    I'm not sure if playing solo had anything to do with it though... Cheers.
  • #29
    Quote from Nargyle

    It's like seeing green beams, I almost get a heart attack and what is it? Trollthorne obviously! ...

    lol, oh how many times Ive been Trollthorned, and The Rick Wailing Host Rolled. lol
  • #30
    Quote from RockmanDoom
    Quote from Nargyle

    It's like seeing green beams, I almost get a heart attack and what is it? Trollthorne obviously! ...

    lol, oh how many times Ive been Trollthorned, and The Rick Wailing Host Rolled. lol

    lol...

    I've seen many posts regarding the blackthorne drop rate over all other sets... Its crazy that soooooo many people have this problem.
  • #31
    I feel like this is what happens when you make everything BoA and random and remove trading!

    Lucky players will have endgame gear in days or week, while others grind till they quit or give up and still don't get items they need.

    Does not matter if you play 2 hours or 12 hours a day, we are all Bingo players in this game :(
  • #32
    Quote from Nargyle

    It's like seeing green beams, I almost get a heart attack and what is it? Trollthorne obviously! ...

    Even worse, the first time you group with a Crusader, and his stupid aura or whatever is constantly making a green beam shoot up into the sky. That drives me nuts.
  • #33
    rng is rng, deal with it

    that is diablo
    xox LoLa xox
  • #34
    Quote from Vagrancy
    Quote from zachafella831

    I don't understand this forum... A few fans dictating how everyone feels, and if someone disagrees with you, you tell them to shut the F up?

    Are you blind? Do you not see the distraught? The disappointment? The lack of fun? The community outcry?

    Have you seen the official forums lately?

    If you guys are satisfied with the way the game is now, it will never change.

    There are many things that need to be fixed and changed in d3 for it to be on the same level as D2.

    While you pacifists continue to sit back and say the game is fine the way it is, there will be hundreds more voicing their opinions trying to push this game to its full potential.

    I don't go on the official forums because 99% of the threads are people like you complaining about not getting instant gratification with items.

    If you're distraught, disappointed, not having fun, and crying.. here's a solution. quit the damn game. Short of someone holding a gun to your head telling you to play, what gives?

    I'm not satisfied with the way the game is, but I make constructive posts that actually spur debate, I don't just bitch about how much shit sucks without giving any sort of solutions or ideas to make the game better. You've given 1 solution and a half ass solution. PVP, sadly they won't be doing much with this as skills and damage output is totally off the walls and will make PVP really retarded.

    End game? I dunno if you've played diablo before..but you are playing the ''end game". The game has been out a little over a month...A MONTH!

    If you want to voice your opinion, do it in a manner that doesn't scream "I WANT INSTANT GRATIFICATION" all over it.

    Edit: I'm totally dead serious to bro!

    Let's be realistic. How many actual full hours of grinding rifts do you think is acceptable between reasonable upgrades? 10 Hours? 20 Hours? 30 hours? Let's call a reasonable upgrade +1% of one of the three basic stats (Damage, Toughness, Healing). That 1% must be gained without losing any value on the other two stats, because otherwise it becomes a sidegrade at best. Example: +1.1% damage, +/-0.0% toughness, +/-0.0% healing.

    I've run rifts for 3-4-5 days between upgrades this small! Overall my personal loot experience has basically been abysmal.

    Overall the loot curve just sucks. When you're wearing garbage for the first 30-40 hours, the loot pace is actually really nice. You're getting significant upgrades every few hours and the feeling is great. You imagine every Leg drop you see could be exactly what you're after, so you think to yourself that you just have to put more work in and reach out and grab it.

    Then you hit the wall. Your chances of getting a significant upgrade disspate before your eyes. You begin to hope only for reasonable upgrades (as I laid out above). Over time you go 10s of hours at a time or more without seeing anything even remotely usable.

    The OP certainly isn't wrong, and all the fanboys getting in a line to piss on him because they lack an ounce of empathy is just sad.
    Last edited by WD Jesus: 4/21/2014 1:07:26 PM
  • #35
    Quote from WD Jesus
    Quote from Vagrancy
    Quote from zachafella831

    I don't understand this forum... A few fans dictating how everyone feels, and if someone disagrees with you, you tell them to shut the F up?

    Are you blind? Do you not see the distraught? The disappointment? The lack of fun? The community outcry?

    Have you seen the official forums lately?

    If you guys are satisfied with the way the game is now, it will never change.

    There are many things that need to be fixed and changed in d3 for it to be on the same level as D2.

    While you pacifists continue to sit back and say the game is fine the way it is, there will be hundreds more voicing their opinions trying to push this game to its full potential.

    I don't go on the official forums because 99% of the threads are people like you complaining about not getting instant gratification with items.

    If you're distraught, disappointed, not having fun, and crying.. here's a solution. quit the damn game. Short of someone holding a gun to your head telling you to play, what gives?

    I'm not satisfied with the way the game is, but I make constructive posts that actually spur debate, I don't just bitch about how much shit sucks without giving any sort of solutions or ideas to make the game better. You've given 1 solution and a half ass solution. PVP, sadly they won't be doing much with this as skills and damage output is totally off the walls and will make PVP really retarded.

    End game? I dunno if you've played diablo before..but you are playing the ''end game". The game has been out a little over a month...A MONTH!

    If you want to voice your opinion, do it in a manner that doesn't scream "I WANT INSTANT GRATIFICATION" all over it.

    Edit: I'm totally dead serious to bro!

    Let's be realistic. How many actual full hours of grinding rifts do you think is acceptable between reasonable upgrades? 10 Hours? 20 Hours? 30 hours? Let's call a reasonable upgrade +1% of one of the three basic stats (Damage, Toughness, Healing). That 1% must be gained without losing any value on the other two stats, because otherwise it becomes a sidegrade at best. Example: +1.1% damage, +/-0.0% toughness, +/-0.0% healing.

    I've run rifts for 3-4-5 days between upgrades this small! Overall my personal loot experience has basically been abysmal.

    Overall the loot curve just sucks. When you're wearing garbage for the first 30-40 hours, the loot pace is actually really nice. You're getting significant upgrades every few hours and the feeling is great. You imagine every Leg drop you see could be exactly what you're after, so you think to yourself that you just have to put more work in and reach out and grab it.

    Then you hit the wall. Your chances of getting a significant upgrade disspate before your eyes. You begin to hope only for reasonable upgrades (as I laid out above). Over time you go 10s of hours at a time or more without seeing anything even remotely usable.

    The OP certainly isn't wrong, and all the fanboys getting in a line to piss on him because they lack an ounce of empathy is just sad.

    Thank you very much for sharing sir...

    +1
  • #36
    Let me just add that the absolutely disgusting attitudes of some of the people posting in this thread are why the majority of people will never post a word. This thread is about Diablo 3 discussion, not about tearing people down for discussing the game.
  • #37
    Quote from WD Jesus

    The OP certainly isn't wrong, and all the fanboys getting in a line to piss on him because they lack an ounce of empathy is just sad.

    So you suggest that even after getting several substantial upgrades, that the upgrades should keep coming? Please explain to me mathematically how such a universe could exist. You do realize that the nature of upgrading your character necessarily reduces the chance for upgrades in the future, right?

    It sounds like you're saying "You should get a lot of upgrades even when you have great gear". Sorry but that's quite impossible from a design standpoint.

    Well.. there is a WAY to give you what you're asking for, that would be to eliminate the chance for BiS items from anyone not already in T6. Make it so the best item you can get in T1 will only help you get to T4 or so at best. And have items scale up from there. So you get plenty of upgrades at T1, T2, T3, etc..That's not really my idea of a good plan.

    Also, once you reached T6 you'd be in the exact same place you're saying it's legitimate to complain about now, where you have good gear but complain about not getting "even better" gear.
    Last edited by PaulAcid: 4/21/2014 1:14:34 PM
  • #38
    Really now? I lack empathy, for bullshit QQ threads about someone who can't get the items they want when they want? You're absolutely right.

    I'm not sure if you've realized but as you gear up the the game, the time it takes to get an actual upgrade goes up, and up, and up, and up, and up. The more gear you get, the harder it is going to become to replace said gear. It shouldn't take hours, it should take days, weeks, and yeah even months to min-max your character to the point where you don't need anything besides paragon levels.

    What the hell do you expect is going to happen in the game? They keep releasing new stronger items every month? No..sorry that's now how the game works.
  • #39
    Quote from zachafella831

    I don't understand this forum... A few fans dictating how everyone feels, and if someone disagrees with you, you tell them to shut the F up?


    I find this quote really hilarious and hypocrite. Mainly because you started the OP talking not only about you, but about thow the MAJORITY of the community thinks.

    You know what? Either I'm not one of your "majority", or you are wrong about the majority feeling. I don't feel like you. So please, don't talk for me. Go back to your OP, edit it, say "I'm talking about myself only, and a few of my friends", and stop acting like if your opinion holds some truth that everybody else share. It's not the case.


    Thank you in advance
    Last edited by supertriqui: 4/21/2014 1:18:30 PM
  • #40
    Only read the first page of this post and level of idiocy is ridiculous ...

    Whilst the OP makes 'some' interesting points for discussion, his 'speaking for the majority' spiel is just aggravating. NO, you DO NOT SPEAK for the MAJORITY. You speak for YOURSELF and/or those people you interact with. Given the # of D3 players, for you to even suggest that you interact with the majority of them is perhaps one of the most ridiculous statements I've heard on these forums (and that's saying something)...

    That said, MY clan seems to absolutely LOVE D3:RoS atm, and this is a group of players that ranges between 'farming' T1-T4. Can there be improvements done to the game / loot? Of course, and there are a myriad of well worded suggestion going around (via forums, reddit, twitter, etc.). Unfortunately, posts like the OPs just detract from any sort of constructive criticism by attempting to be LOUD and failing at being USEFUL.

    /2cents
  • #41
    Quote from PaulAcid
    Quote from WD Jesus

    The OP certainly isn't wrong, and all the fanboys getting in a line to piss on him because they lack an ounce of empathy is just sad.

    So you suggest that even after getting several substantial upgrades, that the upgrades should keep coming? Please explain to me mathematically how such a universe could exist. You do realize that the nature of upgrading your character necessarily reduces the chance for upgrades in the future, right?

    It sounds like you're saying "You should get a lot of upgrades even when you have great gear". Sorry but that's quite impossible from a design standpoint.

    Well.. there is a WAY to give you what you're asking for, that would be to eliminate the chance for BiS items from anyone not already in T6. Make it so the best item you can get in T1 will only help you get to T4 or so at best. And have items scale up from there. So you get plenty of upgrades at T1, T2, T3, etc..That's not really my idea of a good plan.
    Also, once you reached T6 you'd be in the exact same place you're saying it's legitimate to complain about now, where you have good gear but complain about not getting "even better" gear.

    It's not unreasonable to expect a progression of loot over the entire course of the game. The developers have said countless times: Diablo is about the promise of loot. When loot stops showing up, what's left to pursue?
  • #42
    Quote from supertriqui
    Quote from zachafella831

    I don't understand this forum... A few fans dictating how everyone feels, and if someone disagrees with you, you tell them to shut the F up?


    I appreciate you highlighting his quote to show how retarded it is. ''a few fans dictating how everyone feels'' I' wasn't aware the OP was the spokesperson for the majority of d3 players. please exit stage left with him.
  • #43
    Quote from WD Jesus

    Let me just add that the absolutely disgusting attitudes of some of the people posting in this thread are why the majority of people will never post a word. This thread is about Diablo 3 discussion, not about tearing people down for discussing the game.

    Good. Posting whining threads about RNG drops has been discussed quite a bit and the consensus among the community is "F#@# that."

    He's not discussing. He's shouting, complaining, and whining. As many have said, if it's a post with real points and constructive ideas, it wouldn't be soundly rejected.
  • #44
    Quote from WD Jesus

    Let me just add that the absolutely disgusting attitudes of some of the people posting in this thread are why the majority of people will never post a word. This thread is about Diablo 3 discussion, not about tearing people down for discussing the game.

    Thank you.
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