Quote from Westy357» I'm enjoying watching Kongor, Modz, Ziss, and Hana but I would enjoy it a lot more if they let me in the beta.
I don't understand why they don't let in some more people, it is dead most of the time on Twitch.
*and Moldran but he is inactive with RoS atm
Honestly, if they don't do something, I feel like the game is going to turn into a barren wasteland again very quickly after release. The longevity factor just is simply not there at all. Right now it just feels like a very short term game, which is a terrible thing for a Diablo title.
Pretty much everyone on my friends list has already stopped logging into the beta, 5 of whom are employees and they all still have a negative opinion of the game. And when none of my friends want to play, that puts me off as well.
Guys/Gals, it is still in Alpha...it hasn't even entered the real beta yet..relax lol
This is a really important point. I am enjoying the hell out of RoS beta at the moment, but it does not mean I cannot see any problems, I am simply choosing not to get bent out of shape about them. The game will undergo many more changes and we will get to see them up close. This transparent development process (to a degree) is a great idea, and we see it in Hearthstone too, and I am sure we will see it with Heroes of the Storm. Give it time to breathe and grow. Whether every player/employee/heckler likes it or not is largely irrelevant - do you like what you see so far? Maybe wait until playing it. I could play any game I want, there is a good reason I have invested thousands of hours into D3. Cheers 0/
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no need to delete a valid topic even if it was created under false pretenses.
Anyways, I concur with the earlier post of not loving something we haven't tried yet. I'd like to get into the beta to post some constructive feedback however when I see Blizzard talking about giving away the beta to "influencers/movers" in the community I just get disgusted and not want to be a part of the beta anymore.
Blizzard continues this trend of catering to "e-celebs" who could care less about their game and the future of the game. They just want those guys for the publicity and to build hype. They could care less about people like me who have sunk 1500+ hours into the game and ACTUALLY HAVE provided vital feedback (with much of it being used for the previous AND RoS).
I just feel like they're taking, taking, taking, taking and not actually giving anything back, know what I'm saying? There's a limit to how much I can do for them with my time, FOR FREE, only to get slapped in the face and told I have to pay more money all while they celebrate their financial success and reward the wrong players for it. No other company treated me or the community this way and I have done closed beta's for essentially every company in the business (as for past few years, Valve, Square-Enix, Bethesda, Bioware, just to name a few).
I've been catching up on news via Diablofans and recently came upon the Endgame discussions. Checked out some "e-celebs" opinion on RoS, such as Kripp, Athene, King Kongor. Kripp wasn't wrong but useless as usual (and he didn't do the game any favors even though they gave him the beta). Athene offered absolutely nothing and still uses the same crap build from 1.0 (RoS needs an endgame? whoda thunk?). King Kongor was too busy playing the game for anything else to matter. It didn't look like he was good at the game either.
All things considered, I actually have some good ideas for end-game floating around in my head, but like I said, I just feel like they're taking, taking, taking and thinking about it doesn't make me want to post it anymore. If anything I'd like to turn it into a TL2 mod LOL
I just feel like they're taking, taking, taking, taking and not actually giving anything back, know what I'm saying? There's a limit to how much I can do for them with my time, FOR FREE, only to get slapped in the face and told I have to pay more money all while they celebrate their financial success and reward the wrong players for it. No other company treated me or the community this way and I have done closed beta's for essentially every company in the business (as for past few years, Valve, Square-Enix, Bethesda, Bioware, just to name a few).
Your first mistake was expecting something in return for beta testing. If you don't feel like it's a good use of your time, stop doing it, or try and get a job actually being paid to do QA.
Dude played vanilla d3 for 1500 hours, tell me again how he didn't beta test lol?
The eceleb streamer only beta thing was completely whack. Yes, we all got to watch it like television. Too bad the only person I saw really taking notes was modz and that badass Asian wizard. regardless, as mentioned this is alpha. And with that being said, if beta isn't previewed with an additional 5 new features or some shit, and isn't more or less public (I lold at loot 2.0 ptr) then I'm about to just be done with video gameS. I really have been asking myself, does blizzard care if I buy this game? They knew I'd buy d3. I think this time I'm going to hold off. Never done that before.
Quote from eman41» Your first mistake was expecting something in return for beta testing. If you don't feel like it's a good use of your time, stop doing it, or try and get a job actually being paid to do QA.
I don't think you quite understood what he was trying to say.
No I don't think I did. He's upset that he did all this work ("FOR FREE") providing 1500 hours of feedback on the game and Blizzard rewarded the "wrong players". That's called misplaced expectations.
I just feel like they're taking, taking, taking, taking and not actually giving anything back, know what I'm saying? There's a limit to how much I can do for them with my time, FOR FREE, only to get slapped in the face and told I have to pay more money all while they celebrate their financial success and reward the wrong players for it. No other company treated me or the community this way and I have done closed beta's for essentially every company in the business (as for past few years, Valve, Square-Enix, Bethesda, Bioware, just to name a few).
Your first mistake was expecting something in return for beta testing. If you don't feel like it's a good use of your time, stop doing it, or try and get a job actually being paid to do QA.
I don't ever expect anything tangible in return for beta testing. I'm happy that my feedback can be of use so that it does translate into new features/designs for the game. What I DO expect, is that Blizzard treat their players with respect and value expert and dedicated players above publicity and advertising. Allowing people like Athene and Kripparian into the friends and family beta just shows that they were more interested in reaching their audiences rather than obtaining valuable feedback from players such as myself. It's disgusting and Blizzard is the only company that I've EVER beta tested for, that's done that.
I still beta test and I think it's a good use of my time for the games that I play. It's only Blizzard's games that I've had an aversion for. As for QA job, I'd like to do something like that but we don't have any gaming companies out here to QA for.
We've come full circle now. They made d3, a game that had just about nothing (at the core) that players wanted. And they didn't care. Game was based around items...no endgame. They slapped a big D3 on it and it sold millions. take a look at how many people actually play diablo today. "If you played 200 hours worth you got your money" we'll sorry to the mr expectations guy, but before you retort me as well, I was expecting to get a hell of a lot more gameplay than what I've got. I'm the kinda dude that's will play nightmare mode at max level to spam stupid spells for fun. At 1500ish hours played myself, I think I imagined that time to be spent other ways in game when I look back. Without the hype goggles.
How do you make an expansion to a game, without changing the game? You can't. Expansion will not change or fix d3.
We need.....a new game not based on weapon dmg and items.... no trading, party of 4, uhhhhhh
we should just call this game "the expansion to blizzard arpg" because once against its not diablo at the CORE
I just feel like they're taking, taking, taking, taking and not actually giving anything back, know what I'm saying? There's a limit to how much I can do for them with my time, FOR FREE, only to get slapped in the face and told I have to pay more money all while they celebrate their financial success and reward the wrong players for it. No other company treated me or the community this way and I have done closed beta's for essentially every company in the business (as for past few years, Valve, Square-Enix, Bethesda, Bioware, just to name a few).
Your first mistake was expecting something in return for beta testing. If you don't feel like it's a good use of your time, stop doing it, or try and get a job actually being paid to do QA.
I don't ever expect anything tangible in return for beta testing. I'm happy that my feedback can be of use so that it does translate into new features/designs for the game. What I DO expect, is that Blizzard treat their players with respect and value expert and dedicated players above publicity and advertising. Allowing people like Athene and Kripparian into the friends and family beta just shows that they were more interested in reaching their audiences rather than obtaining valuable feedback from players such as myself. It's disgusting and Blizzard is the only company that I've EVER beta tested for, that's done that.
I still beta test and I think it's a good use of my time for the games that I play. It's only Blizzard's games that I've had an aversion for. As for QA job, I'd like to do something like that but we don't have any gaming companies out here to QA for.
Blizzard is disgusting bro. Tinfoil hats are always right. Look at Warcraft... " trial of the crusader was an attempt to see if we could make raids with rehashed models and content" meanwhile they are too busy too do anything but glorify themselves in the form of "rare exciting blue posts"
I just feel like they're taking, taking, taking, taking and not actually giving anything back, know what I'm saying? There's a limit to how much I can do for them with my time, FOR FREE, only to get slapped in the face and told I have to pay more money all while they celebrate their financial success and reward the wrong players for it. No other company treated me or the community this way and I have done closed beta's for essentially every company in the business (as for past few years, Valve, Square-Enix, Bethesda, Bioware, just to name a few).
Your first mistake was expecting something in return for beta testing. If you don't feel like it's a good use of your time, stop doing it, or try and get a job actually being paid to do QA.
I don't ever expect anything tangible in return for beta testing. I'm happy that my feedback can be of use so that it does translate into new features/designs for the game. What I DO expect, is that Blizzard treat their players with respect and value expert and dedicated players above publicity and advertising. Allowing people like Athene and Kripparian into the friends and family beta just shows that they were more interested in reaching their audiences rather than obtaining valuable feedback from players such as myself. It's disgusting and Blizzard is the only company that I've EVER beta tested for, that's done that.
At 1500ish hours played myself, I think I imagined that time to be spent other ways in game when I look back. Without the hype goggles.
So it took you 1500 hours to decide the game wasn't good? That's some strong hype.
A lot of people use the amount of hours played against the player but I think that this is some sort of gambling phenomenon where we sink those hours hoping to get that fix. Like, if we finally get this item, or that group of items, then maybe that enables a build that we wanted to try out, and this process will take hundreds of hours to achieve. That doesn't mean those hundreds of hours were enjoyable or any fun. Is it fun to go to the casino with a bucket of nickels and drop them into the machine for the whole day? No. The fun is in the win.
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I don't understand why they don't let in some more people, it is dead most of the time on Twitch.
*and Moldran but he is inactive with RoS atm
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Honestly, if they don't do something, I feel like the game is going to turn into a barren wasteland again very quickly after release. The longevity factor just is simply not there at all. Right now it just feels like a very short term game, which is a terrible thing for a Diablo title.
Pretty much everyone on my friends list has already stopped logging into the beta, 5 of whom are employees and they all still have a negative opinion of the game. And when none of my friends want to play, that puts me off as well.
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I could play any game I want, there is a good reason I have invested thousands of hours into D3.
Cheers 0/
If you want to arrange it
This world you can change it
If we could somehow make this
Christmas thing last
By helping a neighbor
Or even a stranger
And to know who needs help
You need only just ask
Ha. Bagstone.
Anyways, I concur with the earlier post of not loving something we haven't tried yet. I'd like to get into the beta to post some constructive feedback however when I see Blizzard talking about giving away the beta to "influencers/movers" in the community I just get disgusted and not want to be a part of the beta anymore.
Blizzard continues this trend of catering to "e-celebs" who could care less about their game and the future of the game. They just want those guys for the publicity and to build hype. They could care less about people like me who have sunk 1500+ hours into the game and ACTUALLY HAVE provided vital feedback (with much of it being used for the previous AND RoS).
I just feel like they're taking, taking, taking, taking and not actually giving anything back, know what I'm saying? There's a limit to how much I can do for them with my time, FOR FREE, only to get slapped in the face and told I have to pay more money all while they celebrate their financial success and reward the wrong players for it. No other company treated me or the community this way and I have done closed beta's for essentially every company in the business (as for past few years, Valve, Square-Enix, Bethesda, Bioware, just to name a few).
I've been catching up on news via Diablofans and recently came upon the Endgame discussions. Checked out some "e-celebs" opinion on RoS, such as Kripp, Athene, King Kongor. Kripp wasn't wrong but useless as usual (and he didn't do the game any favors even though they gave him the beta). Athene offered absolutely nothing and still uses the same crap build from 1.0 (RoS needs an endgame? whoda thunk?). King Kongor was too busy playing the game for anything else to matter. It didn't look like he was good at the game either.
All things considered, I actually have some good ideas for end-game floating around in my head, but like I said, I just feel like they're taking, taking, taking and thinking about it doesn't make me want to post it anymore. If anything I'd like to turn it into a TL2 mod LOL
The eceleb streamer only beta thing was completely whack. Yes, we all got to watch it like television. Too bad the only person I saw really taking notes was modz and that badass Asian wizard. regardless, as mentioned this is alpha. And with that being said, if beta isn't previewed with an additional 5 new features or some shit, and isn't more or less public (I lold at loot 2.0 ptr) then I'm about to just be done with video gameS. I really have been asking myself, does blizzard care if I buy this game? They knew I'd buy d3. I think this time I'm going to hold off. Never done that before.
I still beta test and I think it's a good use of my time for the games that I play. It's only Blizzard's games that I've had an aversion for. As for QA job, I'd like to do something like that but we don't have any gaming companies out here to QA for.
How do you make an expansion to a game, without changing the game? You can't. Expansion will not change or fix d3.
We need.....a new game not based on weapon dmg and items.... no trading, party of 4, uhhhhhh
we should just call this game "the expansion to blizzard arpg" because once against its not diablo at the CORE
honestly it's gone too far