What Difficulty Will We Start In?

  • #1
    I was curious as to what difficulty we'll have to start in for Act V. Will we have to play through Normal Act V and progress regularly or will we be able to jump straight into Inferno Act V? Which way do you want or see it going?
  • #2
    Probably the people who are already level 60 will go to act V, they wouldn't force you to go through normal mode that would just be silly.
  • #3
    I would assume hell (It's been stated that Inferno may not exist anymore). It makes no sense to start in normal as how would any new chars progress?
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  • #4
    Quote from Slayerviper

    (It's been stated that Inferno may not exist anymore)


    That's an interpretation and we don't like those! It's been stated that difficulties will be talked about on Blizzcon.
  • #5
    Where did they say that Inferno might not still be around? I can't remember reading that anywhere, source?

    My thoughts are that they might have us play through Act V on each difficulty to "complete" the difficulty to advance further on or the could just plop us down in Act V inferno.
  • #6
    I didn't mean that Blizzard said "X" a few people have been speculating that infero may not exist. Sorry for the poor word choice ;)
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  • #7
    I don't know if this contributes to the conversation much, but currently...there's a guy on my friends list who, when I look at his profile, it says he's beaten Inferno, Butcher, Azmodan and Diablo...but apparently hasn't killed Belial. Which means, some amount of skipping around can take place...

    That being said, I don't think installing the expansion will prevent you from doing Act 5 Inferno right out of the gate, but maybe it won't automatically register as Act 5 being beaten on Normal, Nightmare and Hell until you officially beat them there.

    Good reason as any, among the many there already are, to roll a Crusader, ;-)
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  • #8
    Act 5 will probably just be open for everyone with who bought the expansion, on all difficulty levels.

    New players who just bought the game (or rolls crusader for that matter) would need to be enabled to get into normal mode act5 right after getting rid of Diablo.

    Lvl 60 characters who are already done with inferno, can choose to complete act 5 on any difficulty

    I think its a shame that the story of the expansion does not have to be fought for. a lvl 60 can just go back to normal and 1-shot Malthael as he see fit, and have that as the grand unveiling of the story and plot.

    I would wish for a scenario where the new plot was tough to go through, but in diablo 3, that will not happen, since we do not reset softcore (I do not want forced resets btw).
  • #9
    With loot 2.0 and ladders, I might just start all classes all over again. So this isn't that big of a deal.
  • #10
    Quote from CardinalMDM

    I don't know if this contributes to the conversation much, but currently...there's a guy on my friends list who, when I look at his profile, it says he's beaten Inferno, Butcher, Azmodan and Diablo...but apparently hasn't killed Belial. Which means, some amount of skipping around can take place...

    That being said, I don't think installing the expansion will prevent you from doing Act 5 Inferno right out of the gate, but maybe it won't automatically register as Act 5 being beaten on Normal, Nightmare and Hell until you officially beat them there.

    Good reason as any, among the many there already are, to roll a Crusader, ;-)


    Basically yah. You can power level people and skip all the content in the world, the only thing that needs to be done is lvl requirements and killing Diablo to progress to a new difficulty.
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  • #11
    Quote from Bonzini

    Act 5 will probably just be open for everyone with who bought the expansion, on all difficulty levels.

    New players who just bought the game (or rolls crusader for that matter) would need to be enabled to get into normal mode act5 right after getting rid of Diablo.

    Lvl 60 characters who are already done with inferno, can choose to complete act 5 on any difficulty

    I think its a shame that the story of the expansion does not have to be fought for. a lvl 60 can just go back to normal and 1-shot Malthael as he see fit, and have that as the grand unveiling of the story and plot.

    I would wish for a scenario where the new plot was tough to go through, but in diablo 3, that will not happen, since we do not reset softcore (I do not want forced resets btw).


    If Inferno still exists our characters would not be able to kill monsters in that content. The monsters would be something to the effect of level 73 if the difficulty design stays the same. We will likely need to revert back to hell to catch up in level.



    Quote from DeAdLiNebg

    With loot 2.0 and ladders, I might just start all classes all over again. So this isn't that big of a deal.


    I am still in favor of ladder seasons being a tracking of paragon xp gained during that season.
  • #12
    I would think you get to pick the difficulty. It's an expansion, not a completely new game. Think of it as an extension of the existing game, allowing you to progress forward.
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  • #13

    If Inferno still exists our characters would not be able to kill monsters in that content. The monsters would be something to the effect of level 73 if the difficulty design stays the same. We will likely need to revert back to hell to catch up in level.



    I would think you get to pick the difficulty. It's an expansion, not a completely new game. Think of it as an extension of the existing game, allowing you to progress forward.


    I think that's pretty much it. Inferno will be locked once you upgrade your account to RoS, so you will need to go back to Hell on your 60's to start leveling up to 70 and then move back up to Inferno. You'll still need to actually go back and do it on Normal and Nightmare to get credit though, which can be done on any fresh character, such as a crusader.

    The exact details (such as the new leveling curves for the 5-act difficulties) will probably come at Blizzcon.
  • #14
    Quote from Freydal1743

    If Inferno still exists our characters would not be able to kill monsters in that content. The monsters would be something to the effect of level 73 if the difficulty design stays the same. We will likely need to revert back to hell to catch up in level.

    I think you are right.
    Monsters in ACT IV Hell mode range from lvl. 53-60 and scale to 63 on Inferno mode.
    We might have to go through ACT V Hell mode in order to level to 70 and then switch to Inferno.
  • #15
    Quote from CardinalMDM

    I don't know if this contributes to the conversation much, but currently...there's a guy on my friends list who, when I look at his profile, it says he's beaten Inferno, Butcher, Azmodan and Diablo...but apparently hasn't killed Belial. Which means, some amount of skipping around can take place...

    That being said, I don't think installing the expansion will prevent you from doing Act 5 Inferno right out of the gate, but maybe it won't automatically register as Act 5 being beaten on Normal, Nightmare and Hell until you officially beat them there.

    Good reason as any, among the many there already are, to roll a Crusader, ;-)


    If you join a game, you can skip forward in the story.
  • #16
    Quote from Jaetch

    I would think you get to pick the difficulty. It's an expansion, not a completely new game. Think of it as an extension of the existing game, allowing you to progress forward.


    Inferno was designed to be for end-game max level play. It is currently scaling moster between level 61-63 without monster power or all 63 with monster power. They may not take the option of locking Inferno for level 60s but I would expect them to simply raise the minimum level for entrance to 70. Otherwise only the Incredibly geared players will be able to progress.
  • #17
    Quote from Freydal1743


    If Inferno still exists our characters would not be able to kill monsters in that content. The monsters would be something to the effect of level 73 if the difficulty design stays the same. We will likely need to revert back to hell to catch up in level.



    I got to agree with Freydal143 I think. If they preserve the intent of Inferno to allow us to farm any Act 1~Act 5 location as endgame, Inferno will be pushed up to Level 70 or higher I feel.

    Now, I don't think Hell Act 5 has level 60~69(or even 58~69 for some people) amount of content so I don't know where we'll end up regards to that. There might be a middle ground where Inferno without MP will still have a progress from 65~70, similar to what it has currently, and then starting MP1 everything gets pushed up to 70+.

    Judging by D2:LoD, I don't think anyone will have to play Normal or Nightmare Act 5.

    All speculation though. :P
  • #18
    Quote from Freydal1743

    Quote from Jaetch

    I would think you get to pick the difficulty. It's an expansion, not a completely new game. Think of it as an extension of the existing game, allowing you to progress forward.


    Inferno was designed to be for end-game max level play. It is currently scaling moster between level 61-63 without monster power or all 63 with monster power. They may not take the option of locking Inferno for level 60s but I would expect them to simply raise the minimum level for entrance to 70. Otherwise only the Incredibly geared players will be able to progress.


    There's always the possibility that there's a post-Act IV segment to link the fall of Diablo and Act V and all the Adria, Malthael, etc. goodness. I mean, how much sense would it make to see the defeat of Diablo and suddenly jump to Westmarch for no good reason? There has to be something in between.

    Right now Inferno Act I has monsters at level 61, Act II at 62, Acts III and IV at 63. Unless you turn on MP, those are the levels, otherwise all 63. Perhaps without MP levels, the levels will scale accordingly through the latter acts. Turn on MP levels and get whomped if you're just starting. Who knows. Wouldn't be surprised if they change Inferno to something like:

    Act I: levels 61-63
    Act II: levels 64-65
    Act III: levels 66-68
    Act IV: levels 69-70
    Act V: levels 70-73.

    All speculation, of course.
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  • #19
    Max level is 70, not 73.

    I hope they merge hell and inferno and make it 50-70, and MP enabled for everything level 70. But probably not gonna happen, rather something like inferno = 2 levels per act.
  • #20
    Does anyone remember how Act 5 worked on LoD install? I don't remember having to go back and do Act 5 Normal/Nightmare on my Hell toons, but it's been quite a while for me to say I'm certain.

    My best guess would be that Nightmare requires level X, Hell requires level Y. If you have that level requirement, regardless of if you've beaten the previous difficulties/acts, that you'll be able to play where you want.
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