Ban Wave Today

  • #1
    Looks like a banwave has gone out today… Took them long enough. It makes me worry how long the next one will take when the AH is gone. I see D2 all over again, when it comes to the bots.
  • #2
    Of course it would be nice if Blizzard would (be able to) ban the botters on a more frequent basis. But still, I don't think that bots in D3 are as big of a problem as in D2 because D3 doesn't really have short optimal farming routes, like Pindle etc. were in D3. Sure the bots can make some gold but my understanding is that they are not very good at obtaining items.

    Also, I think that the removal of the AH will actually help to lessen the impact of botters on the economy, since it will be more difficult for them (too) to trade away their gold and items. I know some people seem to think that D3 AH users would use third party sites like crazy, even with real money, but in reality I think that those users are going to be very limited in numbers.

    The biggest problem in D2 was the duping and luckily that seems to be a thing of the past for D3.
  • #3
    Quote from Chiron

    Of course it would be nice if Blizzard would (be able to) ban the botters on a more frequent basis. But still, I don't think that bots in D3 are as big of a problem as in D2 because D3 doesn't really have short optimal farming routes, like Pindle etc. were in D3. Sure the bots can make some gold but my understanding is that they are not very good at obtaining items.

    Also, I think that the removal of the AH will actually help to lessen the impact of botters on the economy, since it will be more difficult for them (too) to trade away their gold and items. I know some people seem to think that D3 AH users would use third party sites like crazy, even with real money, but in reality I think that those users are going to be very limited in numbers.

    The biggest problem in D2 was the duping and luckily that seems to be a thing of the past for D3.


    This. There has yet been a successful way to break into the server and change the coding of items, to truly 'dupe'. Sure there's been exploits that resulted in duped items, but nothing that required actual hacking. It seems D3's always online is working =P

    Because of the lack of duping, the fact that certain crafting mats are BoA, and the removal of the AH's and the subsequent drop in demand for gold, I think botters will be hurting pretty bad. Throw in some more BoA w/ xmog / reforging / enchanting, plus whatever else turns BoA (maybe loot run dropped items, idk), and I see no reason to even fear botters.

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  • #4
    Quote from arteyus

    Looks like a banwave has gone out today… Took them long enough. It makes me worry how long the next one will take when the AH is gone. I see D2 all over again, when it comes to the bots.


    how did you discover that? is there any official statement?
  • #5
    A botting program plugin I won't name here was specifically added to Warden and detected, What's happening now are most likely bans to the people who used said plugin.
  • #6
    Quote from Chiron

    Also, I think that the removal of the AH will actually help to lessen the impact of botters on the economy, since it will be more difficult for them (too) to trade away their gold and items. I know some people seem to think that D3 AH users would use third party sites like crazy, even with real money, but in reality I think that those users are going to be very limited in numbers.


    THIS. Many many many people won't use 3rd party trading sites because they never did, don't even know of their existence. Therefore the amount of trading will be reduced by a fair amount, people will start playing the game rather than looking for items from someone else. Decreasing demand = less $$$ for botters.
  • #7
    Quote from Traumatan

    Quote from arteyus

    Looks like a banwave has gone out today… Took them long enough. It makes me worry how long the next one will take when the AH is gone. I see D2 all over again, when it comes to the bots.


    how did you discover that? is there any official statement?


    it is not hard to go to the website where they get the bot and read all the ban post from yesterday
  • #8
    Meh, i'm glad they are still banning cheaters, but i would like Blizzard to be a bit (read: a lot) more active; at the moment, when they ban botters, they already paid for themselves.
    I had a friend (not anymore of course) that was botting 24/7 in the "Cave of the Betrayer", he was tele hacking to elite pack to elite pack grabbing rares and gold. As soon as i discovered that, i reported him with the game report system almost daily with no result. After a month i used the web form and in two days he got banned and all his paragon levels and gold backrolled.
    He accumulated, from his profile, more than 800m gold; if he sold it, he totally paid for himself without counting any items.

    Most of the hardcore cheaters will just laugh at ban waves because they are gaining more income than the box cost...
  • #9
    If "smart drops" do come, it'll change the "farming from these illegal acivities" of the not-so-typical classes as well.

    Then those people have to find more ways to "get it done", I can't wait for "smart drops" (if this is what it's meant to be doing *winks* I have all 5 classes minimally geared for a very long time) I'm the kind of person that stray away from one-class, however I am definitely a CM Wizard, with much (90%) well-roundedness.
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  • #10
    Nah, actually the botting has been getting less and less profitable (due to how the market is playing out - and 0.00001% chance of getting anything good even while botting 50 accounts), many power botters have already quit botting, or they bot until they get banned and then quit. With the AH removal, I suspect botting will decline further.
  • #11
    Quote from Seifa

    Meh, i'm glad they are still banning cheaters, but i would like Blizzard to be a bit (read: a lot) more active; at the moment, when they ban botters, they already paid for themselves.
    I had a friend (not anymore of course) that was botting 24/7 in the "Cave of the Betrayer", he was tele hacking to elite pack to elite pack grabbing rares and gold. As soon as i discovered that, i reported him with the game report system almost daily with no result. After a month i used the web form and in two days he got banned and all his paragon levels and gold backrolled.
    He accumulated, from his profile, more than 800m gold; if he sold it, he totally paid for himself without counting any items.

    Most of the hardcore cheaters will just laugh at ban waves because they are gaining more income than the box cost...


    /tinfoil hat on : yes, but if Blizzard bans them too fast and they don't make enough money to buy an other box, they are losing money
    /tinfoil hat off :)
  • #12
    Quote from Shad3slayer

    Nah, actually the botting has been getting less and less profitable (due to how the market is playing out - and 0.00001% chance of getting anything good even while botting 50 accounts), many power botters have already quit botting, or they bot until they get banned and then quit. With the AH removal, I suspect botting will decline further.

    It kinda depends on how much value gold will have after, will it go up because normal players can't sell it or it might get worthless if other crafting materials is the limiting factor.
  • #13
    I just fear with the AH gone blizz will be less active on the security.
  • #14
    Quote from arteyus

    I just fear with the AH gone blizz will be less active on the security.


    What do you mean by security? Securing against dupes and cheats? That crossed my mind as well and is a valid concern. Online, however, it's quite easy to detect dupes because of the unique item IDs (server-side). As long as the online requirement stays, I'm fairly certain there won't be any dupes.

    Securing against botters? Don't think so, remember good old D2 when they even banned lots of "false positives" in their HUGE ban waves and banned people in question (and weren't as willing to un-ban afterwards as they are now in D3).
  • #15
    Quote from Bagstone

    Quote from arteyus

    I just fear with the AH gone blizz will be less active on the security.


    What do you mean by security? Securing against dupes and cheats? That crossed my mind as well and is a valid concern. Online, however, it's quite easy to detect dupes because of the unique item IDs (server-side). As long as the online requirement stays, I'm fairly certain there won't be any dupes.

    Securing against botters? Don't think so, remember good old D2 when they even banned lots of "false positives" in their HUGE ban waves and banned people in question (and weren't as willing to un-ban afterwards as they are now in D3).


    what you said, I guess time will tell.
  • #16
    Removal of the AH is a big slam on the bots. One of the winning powers was gold witch dictated the AH and supply'd you with items. Now gold will be only useful for sinks like jeweller, crafter etc. witch frankly won't require that much of a demand i think. Of course the more you have the better, but the way loot 2.0 is about to be played... let's wait and see. Basically the bots made too much and will probably have hard time sell witch is a good thing couse it will undermine their efforts.
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