Oooook so this one will be a long one, stay with me for a bit
First things first : My armory profile is in my signature.
So I recently finished leveling all classes and finishing Inferno with all classes. I gotta say that it was much smoother sailing these days than it was back at release
I mainly played my barb since release and only leveled the other chars very sporadicaly on the side when there were no uber runs to do. I also gotta say that I play very casualy, I dont make the most efficient runs in the world, I'd rather mix up areas, go for the key warden aswell, kill a boss in the end etc. I play more for fun than anything. I also dont realy farm the AH even though I know that this would probably give me the most gold.
Still I got my barb to a point where he can farm MP8 with a rend build and skorn and I can even do some halfway OK dps on ubers. And now I am stuck with my barb
Now I recently stopped playing HC ( totaly different story, yes I dont realy handle deaths to disconnects well... ) and turned all my HC wealth into SC wealth and am now sitting on 50Mill. This is 5 times more than I ever had before and I want to use it not only on my barb, but also on all other chars. Here it gets interesting...
My two dex classes and my two int classes have shared gear so far ( except for weapons and class specific stuff like hats ). I never had any ambition to get them any further than trough inferno, and the gear they have now is easily enugh for that. Just remember, if you give hints for my monk gear ( for example ) and my monk is naked atm, then check the hunter gear for reference
Anyway, my questions :
- Can I get my barb to a MP10 farming machine with 50 mill ? If yes, then I maaaaaaaybe switch my plan and keep focusing on my barb.
- If no : I want to upgrade all my other chars.
- Is it AT ALL doable to keep just one set for int and dex ? Or does each char need his own gear ? ^^ ( i guess each char needs his own gear ^^ )
- Can I get all my other chars to the level of my barb with 50mill? ( i guess no )
- Which pieces that I allready have work for which class ?
- Which would you salvage rigth away ?
Did a small change/tweak to the thread title (removed some spaces) to reduce it to one line. Hope you don't mind.
Also, on-topic, you can probably get your Barb to survive MP10 (with tons of attackspeed/LoH/mitigation) if you switch to a WW build, WotB with ToC will make sure you don't have to worry about most dangerous affixes.
If you wish to stay on a Rend build, you can do it as long as your damage is decent (150k+? anyone?), and you would probably need a Skorn with Lifesteal (does yours already have it?) and some quality mitigation/EHP. It's probably doable if you go for 9-12% Lifesteal (with Belt, Passive and weapon).
All that said, it's probably not going to be the most efficient thing ever. At 120-140k~ dps, you will probably kill things dreadfully slow on MP 9-10.
Thanks for the title editing, sorry if it messed up the forum layout or something
I logged out after doing mp8 key runs yesterday, so you can see that gear atm. No, the skorn does not have life leech, but I have a additional 3% on the IK belt. I can easily do MP8 runs with this setup without dieing. The 135k are absolutely unbuffed, that goes up to over 200k with WotB.
And I decided that having all chars geared out is nice and all, but I need a char first that can farm MP10 efficiently, so I will continue working on my barb and only buy small upgrades for the other chars that dont cost much.
I understand, my point was mainly asking Twoflower for advice/opinion since his barb was so close to mine. As in whit pretty similar barb, what am I doing wrong. My intention wasn't stealing his thread to my own purposes and apologies if I made it out that way.
Oh don't take me wrong. I believe you'll get better help in the Barb forums, but I did misunderstand your point seeking help from Twoflower. Good luck.
I can't understand how do you guys run MP8 to MP10 with those gears and stats... I'm clearly doing something drastically wrong here since I feel it hard to do MP5 hence I stay in MP3 and MP4. Seems that I've missed something really important in my gearing, or the other possibility is that I'm just not so good in terms of playing my Barbie.
If you don't mind, please give me also hint on what to do with my toon.
Hmm I dont know ^^
The one difference I noticed is that I have way more resists than you, and I even use the resist boosting shout for high MP's.
I normaly run in, get battle rage and shout up and then dance around big mob groups and see that my rend always hits at least 5 of them. That usualy regenerates my health so fast that I can even stand in desecration on MP8. As soon as it runs out though, I am dead within 2 sec ^^ So I spam rend and HotA and move out if AoE stack ( like standing in a desecration and having a arcane beam coming my way ).
It's not the fastest, but I can survive and it still gets me keys and other stuff for the hellfire ring.
But for normal farming, I prefer to do mp2-3 act 3 runs with a WW spec, more DPS ( witching hour for example ) and less defensive stats. That just feels faster. The gear in my armory atm is my high MP setup.
I also think that we should keep away from dps items in slots where you normaly have a lot of defensive stats like the witching hour belt or Innas pants as long as we have survivability struggles ^^ I have a few of those but only use them for very low MP speed run stuff.
First things first : My armory profile is in my signature.
So I recently finished leveling all classes and finishing Inferno with all classes. I gotta say that it was much smoother sailing these days than it was back at release
I mainly played my barb since release and only leveled the other chars very sporadicaly on the side when there were no uber runs to do. I also gotta say that I play very casualy, I dont make the most efficient runs in the world, I'd rather mix up areas, go for the key warden aswell, kill a boss in the end etc. I play more for fun than anything. I also dont realy farm the AH even though I know that this would probably give me the most gold.
Still I got my barb to a point where he can farm MP8 with a rend build and skorn and I can even do some halfway OK dps on ubers. And now I am stuck with my barb
Now I recently stopped playing HC ( totaly different story, yes I dont realy handle deaths to disconnects well... ) and turned all my HC wealth into SC wealth and am now sitting on 50Mill. This is 5 times more than I ever had before and I want to use it not only on my barb, but also on all other chars. Here it gets interesting...
My two dex classes and my two int classes have shared gear so far ( except for weapons and class specific stuff like hats ). I never had any ambition to get them any further than trough inferno, and the gear they have now is easily enugh for that. Just remember, if you give hints for my monk gear ( for example ) and my monk is naked atm, then check the hunter gear for reference
Anyway, my questions :
- Can I get my barb to a MP10 farming machine with 50 mill ? If yes, then I maaaaaaaybe switch my plan and keep focusing on my barb.
- If no : I want to upgrade all my other chars.
- Is it AT ALL doable to keep just one set for int and dex ? Or does each char need his own gear ? ^^ ( i guess each char needs his own gear ^^ )
- Can I get all my other chars to the level of my barb with 50mill? ( i guess no )
- Which pieces that I allready have work for which class ?
- Which would you salvage rigth away ?
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Twoflower-2131/hero/47336841
Also, on-topic, you can probably get your Barb to survive MP10 (with tons of attackspeed/LoH/mitigation) if you switch to a WW build, WotB with ToC will make sure you don't have to worry about most dangerous affixes.
If you wish to stay on a Rend build, you can do it as long as your damage is decent (150k+? anyone?), and you would probably need a Skorn with Lifesteal (does yours already have it?) and some quality mitigation/EHP. It's probably doable if you go for 9-12% Lifesteal (with Belt, Passive and weapon).
All that said, it's probably not going to be the most efficient thing ever. At 120-140k~ dps, you will probably kill things dreadfully slow on MP 9-10.
I logged out after doing mp8 key runs yesterday, so you can see that gear atm. No, the skorn does not have life leech, but I have a additional 3% on the IK belt. I can easily do MP8 runs with this setup without dieing. The 135k are absolutely unbuffed, that goes up to over 200k with WotB.
And I decided that having all chars geared out is nice and all, but I need a char first that can farm MP10 efficiently, so I will continue working on my barb and only buy small upgrades for the other chars that dont cost much.
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Twoflower-2131/hero/47336841
That cost me less than 50M and I do MP10 very easily. Could probably get away with 20M if you pick and choose carefully.
Please don't take this as a troll...but...you only ping @ 116k and it's hard for me to believe you can "easy" MP10 at that DPS tier.
I don't know much about barbs, granted, but that seems really really soft. Do you mean you can SOLO farm MP10, or just stay alive in full-party play?
If you do solo with that Barb on MP10, approx how long are we talking for you to take down an average Elite pack, nevermind one with X-health affix?
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And I can survive MP10 with my current gear... That's not the point. It's very unefficient at our low damage range.
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Twoflower-2131/hero/47336841
I would take this to the Barb forums here @ Diablofans.
You'd get more 'pro' advice there. As well, this is Twoflower's thread and I'm not sure it serves him well to have others asking for the same advice.
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Oh don't take me wrong. I believe you'll get better help in the Barb forums, but I did misunderstand your point seeking help from Twoflower. Good luck.
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Hmm I dont know ^^
The one difference I noticed is that I have way more resists than you, and I even use the resist boosting shout for high MP's.
I normaly run in, get battle rage and shout up and then dance around big mob groups and see that my rend always hits at least 5 of them. That usualy regenerates my health so fast that I can even stand in desecration on MP8. As soon as it runs out though, I am dead within 2 sec ^^ So I spam rend and HotA and move out if AoE stack ( like standing in a desecration and having a arcane beam coming my way ).
It's not the fastest, but I can survive and it still gets me keys and other stuff for the hellfire ring.
But for normal farming, I prefer to do mp2-3 act 3 runs with a WW spec, more DPS ( witching hour for example ) and less defensive stats. That just feels faster. The gear in my armory atm is my high MP setup.
I also think that we should keep away from dps items in slots where you normaly have a lot of defensive stats like the witching hour belt or Innas pants as long as we have survivability struggles ^^ I have a few of those but only use them for very low MP speed run stuff.
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Twoflower-2131/hero/47336841