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Hey guys,
I thought my previous paragon route (posted a few days ago: http://www.diablofan...then-alkaizers/) was the fastest possible. But after a few more days of testing, I came up with a route 10% quicker then my last one. That's 30% faster then Alkaizers famous route! Check out the video of the route, its a few minutes long and gets straight to the point. I also included stats this time as alot of people wanted to see my log. Let me know what you fellow redditers think, as feedback is always much appreciated!
The Route:
I guess this is why people wanted you to post your logs - you didn't particularly strengthen credibility by improving your "faster than Alkaizer route" within just a few days of your first post. Secondly, there are still people who can't watch videos and/or would just like to read in one sentence what you changed, rather than watching yet another video to figure out what the difference is (which also requires everyone to watch your old video).
Sorry for the rant, but I'm really interested in this but can't watch videos right now...
alk = 50~ exp/hour
old new = 65~
new new = 75~
wat i got from the vid. tbh i kinda like the idea of this new run. very fast and jam packed. no stack farming at the start
So it's kinda the 3 highest mob density areas in the game (from my personal experience based on Archon uptime, these are Keep 2 > Rakkis > Crater 2). I haven an issue with Crater 2 that sometimes Archon wears off in the beginning and then I'm gimped. I also definitely wouldn't start with Crater 2 because you can have a very bad map with almost all white mobs in the beginning and all elites hidden in some dead end streets or at the end of the level. This is exactly why Alkaizer did Core+Tower first, to get stacks up asap.
Well, this is definitely not for me, I don't like short runs. I still prefer Core+Tower1 for getting NV5 up quite fast, and then I'm just flexible depending on how much time I have left on Archon... Rakkis and FoS depending on how much Archon uptime I have left, Keep 2+3 but make sure I have > 1 minute Archon before going to Crater 2 (go through the exit to get elite pack, shrine and town portal) and Stonefort for key in the end.
i wonder if this is the best route for all characters or just his? I know the alkaiser was the "best route" before but I never really saw exp numbers for other classes/builds. I know my runs are affected greatly when I lose Archon in the middle of an area (Arreat 2 is esp bad at this if you get stuck in a long dead end... usually best to abort the area and move on).
I dunno if I can do this new route as stopping before the fields of slaughter with 5 stacks is probably beyond my level of self control
i wonder if this is the best post for all characters or just his? I know the alkaiser was the "best route" before but I never really saw exp numbers for other classes/builds.
Holy crap, who ever said that Alkaizer is the "best route"? Alkaizer said HIMSELF in an interview shortly after reaching paragon 100 that he run several different routes, so actually there isn't even one Alkaizer route but many different ones. It just happens to be that everyone runs his last variation, the route on which he hit 100 (and probably thinks that this way you'll also hit 100 in no time - lol).
And routes are absolutely subject to what build you're running, not just class. For example, CMWW wizards and Archon wizards have completely different requirements (despite the fact that CMWW isn't even good for paragon farming, anyways).
Yea, my first try. Amazing run for xp... also a leg dropped
Also I'm playing a plvl 62 witch doctor with a hellfire on my WD and a hellfire + leoric's on my follower. This was on MP0.
Hey man. What route were you doing previously? What was the xp difference? if you don't mind me asking. I'm just curious to see how other character classes work on this run
Raoha, this isn't even your route, it's skyhigh's route, you just copied his routes and claimed them as your own
Proof: eu[dot]battle[dot]net/d3/en/forum/topic/6134583402
It's perfectly possible that two people came up with something without knowing about the other. Happens all the time, don't just assume that he copied it.
I guess this is why people wanted you to post your logs - you didn't particularly strengthen credibility by improving your "faster than Alkaizer route" within just a few days of your first post. Secondly, there are still people who can't watch videos and/or would just like to read in one sentence what you changed, rather than watching yet another video to figure out what the difference is (which also requires everyone to watch your old video).
Sorry for the rant, but I'm really interested in this but can't watch videos right now...
Hey sorry Bro. I had posted the run and long below the vid. But I see someone posted on here before I could edit >< cheers
Yea, my first try. Amazing run for xp... also a leg dropped
Also I'm playing a plvl 62 witch doctor with a hellfire on my WD and a hellfire + leoric's on my follower. This was on MP0.
Hey man. What route were you doing previously? What was the xp difference? if you don't mind me asking. I'm just curious to see how other character classes work on this run
I was doing a route I made myself, I will do 10 runs of each route and show my stats. Alkaizer, my own, and yours.
Raoha, this isn't even your route, it's skyhigh's route, you just copied his routes and claimed them as your own
Proof: eu[dot]battle[dot]net/d3/en/forum/topic/6134583402
It's perfectly possible that two people came up with something without knowing about the other. Happens all the time, don't just assume that he copied it.
I don't even use the diablo forum. The guy had the same approach as me. I wouldn't be surprised if 500 other people logged their runs to build an effecient run as well. I'm just sharing the run I came up with, as it has proved helpful to many players
Pretty awesome route if anything, Im finding ALK routes to be pretty great though.
His route is definitely a great run, as he destroyed everyone in the paragon race
This route is just something new people can try, and happens to bemore effecient. which certainly does not hurt, hehe!
alk = 50~ exp/hour
old new = 65~
new new = 75~
wat i got from the vid. tbh i kinda like the idea of this new run. very fast and jam packed. no stack farming at the start
you'll have to let me know how it goes for you if you give it a try. cheers bro!
Made sense to me. Video is really only 3 minutes because the last minute is him talking.
But yah, what agadabagada said, run thre zones, log out and back in and repeat.
I guess with that east of a run, it would be easy to disprove him. And he did post his stats.
So if people still want to hate, alls they have to do is run Alkaizer 10-20 times, than run this 10-20 times and compare.
He says his run only take 5-7 minutes, so doing it 10 times would only take an hour to test.......
also, on which account is your monk? and why do you have 3 accounts?
lol, i used too. and it's because i have two twin brothers actually. Loras and Oge
and dude you are seriously a creep. go back under your bridge bro. (last post your getting from me..I have a bad habit of feeding the trolls hahah)
STILL UPDATING AS RUNS BEING COMPLETED (01/02/2013)
I'm currently doing 10 test runs to see analyze how efficient this is for my character, using archon wizard.
Monster Power: 1
Bonus experience:
- Hellfire ring: +35%
- Leorics signet: +28%
- Enchantress with hellfire ring: +7%
- Enchantress with signet: +5%
- Radiant Star Ruby in helm: +31% Total exp from items: +106%
Skill spec:
- Archon with Teleport rune
- Storm Armor with Scramble rune
- Familiar with Vigoron Rune
- Magic Weapon with Blood Magic rune
- Chain Lightning with Forked Lightning rune
- Diamond Skin with Crystal Shell rune
- Galvanizing Ward
- Glass Cannon
- Evocation
Route:
- Arreat Crater 2 backwards using automated checkpoint at Tower of the Cursed 1
- Rakkis Crossing backwards
- Keep Depths 2
Character specs:
- Profile: http://us.battle.net...89/hero/1170726
- DPS: 320k (using signet and hellfire + enchatress IAS aura)
- Paragon 89/90 (will level to 90 during testing)
Method:
- Avoiding all shrines
- Avoid all backtracking unless a very short distance
- Pick up very few items: legendaries and select 63 rares
- If at 5 stacks when approaching the Bridge Store with guaranteed elite group in Rakkis, I would skip. Went inside if 4 stacks or less.
- Screen cap taken with mouse over exp bar standing outside Arreat Crater 2.
- Second screen cap taken after run is complete.
- Experience gained is tabulated, time of run tabulated, exp/hour extrapolated
- Run time includes leaving the game and restarting a new one (reappearing in Tower of the Cursed 1), as that is part of a full run cycle
Deaths: 0
NV stacks gained in Arreat 2: 2
Legendaries: 1
Involuntary Archon Loss: 1
Lost archon inbetween Rakkis and Keeps Depth 2, had about 30 seconds of downtime. User error.
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Run #8:
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Run #9:
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Run #10:
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Once this is complete, I will try 10 Blizzard runs
Hey guys,
I thought my previous paragon route (posted a few days ago: http://www.diablofan...then-alkaizers/) was the fastest possible. But after a few more days of testing, I came up with a route 10% quicker then my last one. That's 30% faster then Alkaizers famous route! Check out the video of the route, its a few minutes long and gets straight to the point. I also included stats this time as alot of people wanted to see my log. Let me know what you fellow redditers think, as feedback is always much appreciated!
The Route:
My D3 Character: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Loras-1351/hero/29537054
What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger.
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Sorry for the rant, but I'm really interested in this but can't watch videos right now...
keeps level 2
rakkis crossing
alk = 50~ exp/hour
old new = 65~
new new = 75~
wat i got from the vid. tbh i kinda like the idea of this new run. very fast and jam packed. no stack farming at the start
Well, this is definitely not for me, I don't like short runs. I still prefer Core+Tower1 for getting NV5 up quite fast, and then I'm just flexible depending on how much time I have left on Archon... Rakkis and FoS depending on how much Archon uptime I have left, Keep 2+3 but make sure I have > 1 minute Archon before going to Crater 2 (go through the exit to get elite pack, shrine and town portal) and Stonefort for key in the end.
I dunno if I can do this new route as stopping before the fields of slaughter with 5 stacks is probably beyond my level of self control
Holy crap, who ever said that Alkaizer is the "best route"? Alkaizer said HIMSELF in an interview shortly after reaching paragon 100 that he run several different routes, so actually there isn't even one Alkaizer route but many different ones. It just happens to be that everyone runs his last variation, the route on which he hit 100 (and probably thinks that this way you'll also hit 100 in no time - lol).
And routes are absolutely subject to what build you're running, not just class. For example, CMWW wizards and Archon wizards have completely different requirements (despite the fact that CMWW isn't even good for paragon farming, anyways).
Yea, my first try. Amazing run for xp... also a leg dropped
Also I'm playing a plvl 62 witch doctor with a hellfire on my WD and a hellfire + leoric's on my follower. This was on MP0.
Hey man. What route were you doing previously? What was the xp difference? if you don't mind me asking. I'm just curious to see how other character classes work on this run
My D3 Character: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Loras-1351/hero/29537054
What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger.
It's perfectly possible that two people came up with something without knowing about the other. Happens all the time, don't just assume that he copied it.
Hey sorry Bro. I had posted the run and long below the vid. But I see someone posted on here before I could edit >< cheers
My D3 Character: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Loras-1351/hero/29537054
What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger.
I was doing a route I made myself, I will do 10 runs of each route and show my stats. Alkaizer, my own, and yours.
My D3 Character: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Loras-1351/hero/29537054
What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger.
His route is definitely a great run, as he destroyed everyone in the paragon race
This route is just something new people can try, and happens to bemore effecient. which certainly does not hurt, hehe!
My D3 Character: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Loras-1351/hero/29537054
What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger.
you'll have to let me know how it goes for you if you give it a try. cheers bro!
My D3 Character: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Loras-1351/hero/29537054
What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger.
But yah, what agadabagada said, run thre zones, log out and back in and repeat.
I guess with that east of a run, it would be easy to disprove him. And he did post his stats.
So if people still want to hate, alls they have to do is run Alkaizer 10-20 times, than run this 10-20 times and compare.
He says his run only take 5-7 minutes, so doing it 10 times would only take an hour to test.......
lol, i used too. and it's because i have two twin brothers actually. Loras and Oge
and dude you are seriously a creep. go back under your bridge bro. (last post your getting from me..I have a bad habit of feeding the trolls hahah)
My D3 Character: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Loras-1351/hero/29537054
What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger.
ahahah man, i swear i get this ten times a day. and once from my gf.
My D3 Character: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Loras-1351/hero/29537054
What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger.
I'm currently doing 10 test runs to see analyze how efficient this is for my character, using archon wizard.
Monster Power: 1
Bonus experience:
- Hellfire ring: +35%
- Leorics signet: +28%
- Enchantress with hellfire ring: +7%
- Enchantress with signet: +5%
- Radiant Star Ruby in helm: +31%
Total exp from items: +106%
Skill spec:
- Archon with Teleport rune
- Storm Armor with Scramble rune
- Familiar with Vigoron Rune
- Magic Weapon with Blood Magic rune
- Chain Lightning with Forked Lightning rune
- Diamond Skin with Crystal Shell rune
- Galvanizing Ward
- Glass Cannon
- Evocation
Route:
- Arreat Crater 2 backwards using automated checkpoint at Tower of the Cursed 1
- Rakkis Crossing backwards
- Keep Depths 2
Character specs:
- Profile: http://us.battle.net...89/hero/1170726
- DPS: 320k (using signet and hellfire + enchatress IAS aura)
- Paragon 89/90 (will level to 90 during testing)
Method:
- Avoiding all shrines
- Avoid all backtracking unless a very short distance
- Pick up very few items: legendaries and select 63 rares
- If at 5 stacks when approaching the Bridge Store with guaranteed elite group in Rakkis, I would skip. Went inside if 4 stacks or less.
- Screen cap taken with mouse over exp bar standing outside Arreat Crater 2.
- Second screen cap taken after run is complete.
- Experience gained is tabulated, time of run tabulated, exp/hour extrapolated
- Run time includes leaving the game and restarting a new one (reappearing in Tower of the Cursed 1), as that is part of a full run cycle
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Run #1:
Experience: 8,640,487
Time: 8m26s (8.33333 multiplier)
Exp/minute: 1,036,858
Exp/hour: 62,211,506
Deaths: 0
NV stacks gained in Arreat 2: 4
Legendaries: 0
Involuntary Archon Loss: 0
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Run #2:
Experience: 9,292,099
Time: 7m47s (7.7833333 multiplier)
Exp/minute: 1,193,845
Exp/hour: 71,630,741
Deaths: 0
NV stacks gained in Arreat 2: 3
Legendaries: 0
Involuntary Archon Loss: 0
Notes: Hit Paragon 90 this run!
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Run #3:
Experience: 7,576,004
Time: 6m34s (6.5666666 multiplier)
Exp/minute: 1,153,706
Exp/hour: 69,222,371
Deaths: 0
NV stacks gained in Arreat 2: 2
Legendaries: 0
Involuntary Archon Loss: 0
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Run #4:
Experience: 7,701,814
Time: 7.32 (7.5333333 multiplier)
Exp/minute: 1,022,364
Exp/hour: 61,341,881
Deaths: 0
NV stacks gained in Arreat 2: 4
Legendaries: 0
Involuntary Archon Loss: 0
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Run #5:
Experience: 9,552,583
Time: 9.16 (9.266666 multiplier)
Exp/minute: 1,030,854
Exp/hour: 61,851,256
Deaths: 0
NV stacks gained in Arreat 2: 4
Legendaries: 0
Involuntary Archon Loss: 0
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Run #6:
Experience: 9,143,262
Time: 8m28s (8.466666 multiplier)
Exp/minute: 1,079,912
Exp/hour: 64,794,770
Deaths: 0
NV stacks gained in Arreat 2: 3
Legendaries: 0
Involuntary Archon Loss: 0
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Run #7:
Experience: 7,319,814
Time: 7m51s (7.85 multiplier)
Exp/minute: 932,460
Exp/hour: 55,947,622
Deaths: 0
NV stacks gained in Arreat 2: 2
Legendaries: 1
Involuntary Archon Loss: 1
Lost archon inbetween Rakkis and Keeps Depth 2, had about 30 seconds of downtime. User error.
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Run #8:
Experience:
Time:
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Exp/hour:
Deaths:
NV stacks gained in Arreat 2:
Legendaries:
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Run #9:
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Time:
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Legendaries:
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Run #10:
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Once this is complete, I will try 10 Blizzard runs
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