Elemental Damage of Inna's Favor vs. Stone of Jordan

  • #1
    Hi I saw that Inna's Favors +Holy Damage%...adds heavily to DPS. Read somewhere that +elemental damage% adds to add +min/+max damage that is not elemental.
    For Ex: My Inna's favor with 91 does 8K more damage than a similar dex belt.

    So I bought a Stone of Jordan with 6% arcane damage and 25% damage to elites. Spent a $1.0 M for it.
    I noticed that it does add damage to elites...but it does nothing to increase my DPS like Inna's Favor does. In fact a ring with only +25-50 Damage does 2000 more damage than the SOJ.
    Any reason for this? Or has a DH do I have to get another ring with Holy Damage?

    Please advice. Thanks.
  • #2
    I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly. Anyways, it doesn't matter which damage type, it just adds to your non-elemental DPS, see blue post explanation: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6413025317#13

    And there are many many threads about this as this is discussed on these forums almost every other day.

    The 25% damage to elites is not displayed on char screen because it's only against elites and 90% of the time you're not fighting elites (unless you're skipping everything and really good in quickly finding elites).

    One question I had: what does "$1.0 M" mean? I hope it's not 1 million dollars? Is it 1 dollar and the M stands for "(real) money"? Or just 1 million gold?
  • #3
    The 6% Arcane from the SOJ is reflected in your paper DPS number. The 25% vs. Elites is not.

    Inna's belt will add considerably more paper DPS as it has many damage stats on top of the +% Elemental Damage. These include: Base Dexterity, Set Bonus Dexterity, and Crit Chance. It also has 1-3% more Elemental Damage than SOJ.

    As pointed out above, the type of +% Elemental Damage doesn't matter. What does matter is whether your weapon has elemental damage on it or not (better to have none).
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  • #4
    Quote from rimmi2002

    Hi I saw that Inna's Favors +Holy Damage%...adds heavily to DPS. Read somewhere that +elemental damage% adds to add +min/+max damage that is not elemental.
    For Ex: My Inna's favor with 91 does 8K more damage than a similar dex belt.

    So I bought a Stone of Jordan with 6% arcane damage and 25% damage to elites. Spent a $1.0 M for it.
    I noticed that it does add damage to elites...but it does nothing to increase my DPS like Inna's Favor does. In fact a ring with only +25-50 Damage does 2000 more damage than the SOJ.
    Any reason for this? Or has a DH do I have to get another ring with Holy Damage?

    Please advice. Thanks.

    As stated above, the 25% increase damage to Elites will not show up in your DPS but the arcane damage % increase will. However, with the Inna's Favor, you are not only getting a % increas to your weapons base damage but you also gain 1% crit chance and an increase in your base stat. Those combined will show a greater increase in your DPS than the SoJ.
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  • #5
    i guess u will use SOJ on elites packs only
  • #6
    I was using SOJ for one of my two rings. Using it cause +10 discipline and damage to elites. I can kill most trash easily so I figure the bonus to elites is beneficial. Does the damage only applies to yellow elites or do champions count as elites as well. Thanks.
  • #7
    Elite are all enemies with yellow, blue, or purple name plates; i.e., all elite, champions, or rare monsters.
  • #8
    Quote from Bagstone

    Elite are all enemies with yellow, blue, or purple name plates; i.e., all elite, champions, or rare monsters.

    As well as bosses.....and other players ;)
  • #9
    I still do not entirely understand how this affix stack. Assuming i have a 1000 dps weapon (dealing 1000-1000 only physical dmg with 1,00 attacks per second) and innas belt giving + 8% as holy damage and a SoJ granting +5% dmg as cold.
    How do the items stack? Does anybody definitely know?

    i) i get both bonusses on the base dps and get no profit from dealing damage as cold (no slow because 5%<8%), so i deal 1000+80+50= 1130 dps
    ii) the same as a) but the bonusses stack: 1000*1.08*1.05= 1134 dps
    iii) only the highest dps bonus is granted + only the highest bonus effect (no slow) is granted: 1080 dps
    iv) i get both +% bonusses, and whether i deal cold or holy animations is based on a probability (?), although i only see the holy animation because the +% holy value is higher
    v) any other i could not think of right now...
  • #10
    You get both, however, they're not multiplicative but will be added together and then applied to your damage (both considered to be the "same type" as in both elemental):

    8% holy damage, 5% cold damage = 13% bonus elemental damage.

    1000 dps * 1.13 = 1130 DPS.
  • #11
    Remember players are elites aswell. So SoJ will increase your dmg in pvp by 20-30% :)))

    Just if you want to stack up on em aswell. the value will increase alot when pvp comes.
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  • #12
    Seriously? I thought this was a joke by maka... players are considered as elite? Source? How do you even know, without PvP around right now?
  • #13
    Yeah, i definitely remember a bluepost saying that players count as Elites. But that does not mean that they may balance that when pvp comes out, +30% for 1 ring is quite a damn big bonus.
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