Soo, I have multiple level 60s that I play. I like switching toons because it keeps the game fresh. However I am really curious as to what the heck I am doing wrong when it comes to drops. Please this is not a crying post. I am trying to find out what I can do to get better drops or make my characters better. I love the game, I like killing things. I just want to find out what I can do to try and find some more gear. I realize its luck, but this is some very crappy luck. This week I am up to 892 rares, and 0 legendary items since the patch dropped.
Please note, I have found nothing of worth since the start of this game. Any money I do make is either small stuff off the AH or what I found ingame. Since 1.05 the best thing I have found is Stormcrow. (crappy and sells cheap) Every last legendary (they are not that good) I have was bought at some low price so they really aren't that good. With my monk and barb I play on MP2. Everything else is MP1. One of the reasons I am frustrated is I see people linking cool gear or multiples and I have never seen a set drop.
The answer is simple (though you won't like it): the game is currently designed in a way such that it absolutely DISCOURAGES from twinking. Focus on one character, get on a high paragon level, you'll get tons of legendaries, and with that you equip your other toons until they can steamroll content, farm fast, and get to higher paragon levels, too.
I've got only two characters (barb and wiz) and wanted to level both at the same time as I did in D2 already, but D3 just won't let me. A couple of weeks ago I put my barb to sleep and ever since I focused on my wiz only and got to a reasonable paragon level, it works. My barb is even sitting at 2 IK set items already and gets some decent gear, so maybe at around paragon level 70 of my wiz I can reactivate my barb. But if you really want to play all of them in parallel, you'll have a hard time.
To give you some numbers, I felt that at around paragon level 20 you start seeing legendaries drops on a more regular basis, though rarely more than one per day; at around 40-50 it gets crazy and you'll find a handful on one day if you're lucky and play for a few hours.
The answer is simple (though you won't like it): the game is currently designed in a way such that it absolutely DISCOURAGES from twinking. Focus on one character, get on a high paragon level, you'll get tons of legendaries
Yep, he's right. I would say "tons" might be a bit misleading because it's feast or famine, but the droughts don't last so long when they hit.
I would ask the OP a few questions;
1) How much do you play? Average daily/weekly?
2) Do you use MF switch?
To address the first question, I would say it's obvious. If you're only playing an hour every few nights or so, you're obviously going to see less drops. Still, you should be harvesting something.
To address the second question, I used MF switch until I got my Para leveling up a tad. Once MP was added to the mix, I discontinued the practice and was happy to do so as I despised having to do it. You can buy very cheap MF gear @ the GAH. It doesn't even have to have any qualities that would add to your details sheet. Just as long as it's MF. If you're hurting for gold, just save any junk rares you find that have MF. It's a pain to learn the technique of switching, but it gets easier as you practice.
Both Para levels and MP settings affect your MF.
Concentrating on one character is key, as Bagstone pointed out. Just figure what char you like best and go with it.
Thanks for all the quick posts. I know my gear is crap hence I am trying to upgrade it but again is hard when you can't find anything to sell or use. This is the feed back I was looking for.
@Rhye, lol I read that and realized what I said. I already edited and did not want to go back and fix it twice What I meant to say stormcrow is only item i have found since patch
@kalikoojack, yep gear is horribad hence the post, thanks for the guides.
I know my gear is crap hence I am trying to upgrade it but again is hard when you can't find anything to sell or use. This is the feed back I was looking for.
lol...don't ya love it...."My gear is crap I don't get any drops"...."Well it's cuz your gear is crap".
Don't get too frustrated and make sure to maintain your sense of humor. Find a way to add MF and para level your favorite char.
6 pieces of my gear is self found, though far from godly, I can walk through MP's as high as 6 without trouble and can handle MP's as high as 8 but that's too slow for my DPS output.
I even made a thread called "Post your self-found upgrades here".....but you prolly don't want to look at that thread right now
Please people, if you want a challenge and play MP10 all the time just because you like it, it's fine. This guy wants to get some decent gear - the way to get there is to farm quickly and efficient, and that can easily be done on MP0 act 3. There is absolutely no reason to go to higher MP levels unless your gear is so good that you 1-shot everything.
To OP: in the theorycrafting section there are threads about the most efficient MP level for farming, including some nice stats. Don't listen to that BS that you need to farm on MP5 to see legendaries. Stay on the MP you like (MP0 act 3 is totally fine and for most people even the most efficient place for XP/loot per time) and don't try to desperately reach the higher MP levels.
Edit: the only time you should go to higher MP levels is when you want to farm keys/organs for a Hellfire Ring, but you should get some friends to help you out, and group play changes everything anyways.
Better gear is needed for farming. Try and get your base MF up to and if possible, over 150 and then see what happens. To be honest, if you can max it out at 300 you will see more and more drops. 300 plus whatever MP level you play is a big bonus. Mind you, not all drops will be worth your time but you will find more and that is the point.
I will note, the drops are reliant on the number of kills you get. It's as with any gamble, the more kills, the more drops. It's simple so try and find a farming route that will net you the greatest number of kills. Once you have a good farm route, focus on running it as fast as you can with the fewest number of deaths.
Efficiency is the key along with your MF.
Edit:
I will note this as well, focus on ONE character - heavily! Get that character up high in Paragon.
I played strictly wizard. I farmed heavily with her. I saved up so much and found enough gear to deck out my monk from scratch. You, on the other hand, have a bunch of subpar characters (no offense, but that's just how they appear) because none of them can farm efficiently on their own. Focus on one and go from there.
1. Focus on gearing one character first. Gear that character strictly on DPS and EHP to improve your farming efforts.
2. Select a decent MP (1-4) to farm consistently; least deaths, fastest kills, most drops.
3. Get paragon levels. Your characters have nothing on them.
4. Gain levels, gain primary stats --> gain MF --> deal more damage --> kill mobs faster --> farm faster --> gain paragon faster --> gain more primary stats --> deal more damage --> kill even faster --> farm even faster --> save 100M gold --> kill even faster --> farm even faster --> gain more paragon even faster --> gain more stats and MF --> farm way faster --> kill way faster --> save more gold --> repeat until paragon 100
One important thing to remember is that people posting their links here are but a handful of the people that's playing the game. When people link their OP gear, they most often brag a little at the same time and players with less impressive gear don't really think they benefit from posting the link. I think the number of players with really OP gear is much higher than what you see on this forum.
A week or so ago, there was a really informative video on the start page of diablofans with TryHardEnmity gearing a monk using 3 mil gold: http://www.diablofan...lo-3-wallpaper/
I actually thought the way he searched the AH and made decisions what informative and educational ^^
Good luck!
Some might be bragging but there are those of us that are trying to say one simple thing, focus on one character more and gear that one character. You call it "OP" gear but I call it 600 hours spent playing the game and busting ass to find good gear and use it or sell it for gear better suited for my character. Sure, the op needs to weed out the braggards but there are some of us that will give it to the op straight - 3 mill in AH gear will not net you the same results that hundreds of hard working hours in the game will. It will get you started but you still need to grind and find that focusing on a single character can be rewarding, especially in the higher paragon levels.
I think its possible to find a better gear just by clicking on items by accident
I know you're being funny but that's not really why we should be here, we're here to help.
I look back at some of the gear I was buying in July and August and I just facepalm. Anywho...let's take it easy on the poor fella. He's trying and wants to get better.
And better gear is not hard to pay for on the AH to do MP 3 easily. We are not talking about awesome gear but cheap gear that isn't that good willl still get you 50k+ dps. easily.
You need to focus on ONE character only. Your lack of Paragon levels on one character affects:
1) Killing power and survivability
2) MF and Gold find.
I did not look at your characters at all to determine you spread your time and money thin for upgrades for a single character.
It's all good Niddro, I try not to take the game to seriously. I also do not want the godly op items dropping every time. Most of the posts here answered my question and I did as follows.
1. Play my monk and level his paragons!
2. Spent 120kish (MY POOR CASH FUND!!) and got up to 150mf without losing any life and like 1k dps and a tiny bit of resistances.
(I think this gets me to almost 300mf with neph buff) have to do for now.
3. Focus on act 3, (find good route) find better gear.
4 Focus on act 1 mp 1 (can still farm at same rate I was)
Again thanks to everyone that responded. I don't mind getting harsh answer as long as they are informative. Which they did. No bs but gave me things to look at.
Some might be bragging but there are those of us that are trying to say one simple thing, focus on one character more and gear that one character. You call it "OP" gear but I call it 600 hours spent playing the game and busting ass to find good gear and use it or sell it for gear better suited for my character. Sure, the op needs to weed out the braggards but there are some of us that will give it to the op straight - 3 mill in AH gear will not net you the same results that hundreds of hard working hours in the game will. It will get you started but you still need to grind and find that focusing on a single character can be rewarding, especially in the higher paragon levels.
I apologies.
Bad choice of word. Let's pretend I said "imba" instead of OP. I'm also sure that the gear that ppl have is well deserved
My point was, don't loose hope, there are plenty of players out there in the same situation as the OP.
PS. The mentioning of 3 mil was only addressing what the video was about.
Understood and I will add, not trying to start a fight. I just wanted to clear up that there are some of us that would like to see everybody excel in the game.
Truth is there is only one easy way out of grinding a farm route for good gear and that is by using real cash but for those who want to truly give the game a fair shot they have to grind and put in the hours of play. I just want to stress to everybody that at first it may seem daunting but the reward for a few hundred hours of game time is actually pretty nice.
My uncle has about 40 hours into each character and has them all at a level 60 / 1 Paragon and he too complains that he finds nothing worth keeping or selling. I tell him the same, take one character and grind like hell. It just takes time and a bit of dedication.
It's all good Niddro, I try not to take the game to seriously. I also do not want the godly op items dropping every time. Most of the posts here answered my question and I did as follows.
1. Play my monk and level his paragons!
2. Spent 120kish (MY POOR CASH FUND!!) and got up to 150mf without losing any life and like 1k dps and a tiny bit of resistances.
(I think this gets me to almost 300mf with neph buff) have to do for now.
3. Focus on act 3, (find good route) find better gear.
4 Focus on act 1 mp 1 (can still farm at same rate I was)
Again thanks to everyone that responded. I don't mind getting harsh answer as long as they are informative. Which they did. No bs but gave me things to look at.
Do you play (US) or (EU)? There are a few people that may be able to help with gear and I am one of them. I have some things collecting dust that may help.
I play (US) but I know of at least one other fella here that plays (EU) that has a standing offer to help gear people that are struggling.
I play US, I just play for fun ya know? My game tag is Lealia#1131. However, if ya want to help thats cool. Never turn down a friendly person. I did not make the post though to look for that.
I play US, I just play for fun ya know? My game tag is Lealia#1131. However, if ya want to help thats cool. Never turn down a friendly person. I did not make the post though to look for that.
Oh I know you didn't intend on making a 'gib itemz plox' thread.
A thread was actually made offering such assistance not long ago here. It's not charity, it's karma. We're not talking about game-breaking godlies either, just some shit to get the ball rolling with a little more momentum, aye.
Lemme know what Char you're intending to para level as you main and I'll dig through my stash and see what I got.
Bah, I laugh in the face of that siren call that is "efficiency". Say it loud: "I twink and I'm proud".
Stay strong, OP.
Same here brother. I "farm" on MP5 or 6 (depending on mood) and I do so because the efficiency isn't as appealing as the challenge and fun of the game as intended. I goof around on MP 7 from time to time but it is a little slow for me as of yet.
I always feel like I'd be miserable if I was jetting along as quick as a robot, starting and restarting runs with great speed as to maximize my efficiency while blasting through MP1 Elites in one fell blow.
I want to die sometimes. It humbles me. Well ...like not in real life, that would suck. I mean the game of course.
getting ur net legendary drops up has a direct reflection to how fast u clear content. i'd focus on the class u enjoy playing the most, or a barbarian as they move around the fastest . gear out one character and level his paragon up. i wouldnt worry a cranking mp levels up too high if it slows ur kill speed. mp1 will net u more legendary per hour then playing at mp5 but taking a long time to kill stuff. killing almost everything is a good idea too as i get tons of drops from normal mobs, not just elites. as someone stated earlier alkaizer route is the highest density of mobs and champion packs.. fast XP and drops. look it up on youtube. when u get high enough mp u can throw in the key warden to it as well. wouldnt bother with key warder with mp1-2 though.
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Please note, I have found nothing of worth since the start of this game. Any money I do make is either small stuff off the AH or what I found ingame. Since 1.05 the best thing I have found is Stormcrow. (crappy and sells cheap) Every last legendary (they are not that good) I have was bought at some low price so they really aren't that good. With my monk and barb I play on MP2. Everything else is MP1. One of the reasons I am frustrated is I see people linking cool gear or multiples and I have never seen a set drop.
Here is my profile link, tell me whatever, just trying to figure it out.
http://us.battle.net...31/hero/1349306
Anyways. 0 or 1 legendary over that time span is insanely low. I think I'm well past 100 after 1.0.5 hit. What areas do you farm?
My only suggestion is to do the Alkaizer route no matter what class you play. I has the best monster density and xp efficiency.
I've got only two characters (barb and wiz) and wanted to level both at the same time as I did in D2 already, but D3 just won't let me. A couple of weeks ago I put my barb to sleep and ever since I focused on my wiz only and got to a reasonable paragon level, it works. My barb is even sitting at 2 IK set items already and gets some decent gear, so maybe at around paragon level 70 of my wiz I can reactivate my barb. But if you really want to play all of them in parallel, you'll have a hard time.
To give you some numbers, I felt that at around paragon level 20 you start seeing legendaries drops on a more regular basis, though rarely more than one per day; at around 40-50 it gets crazy and you'll find a handful on one day if you're lucky and play for a few hours.
Yep, he's right. I would say "tons" might be a bit misleading because it's feast or famine, but the droughts don't last so long when they hit.
I would ask the OP a few questions;
1) How much do you play? Average daily/weekly?
2) Do you use MF switch?
To address the first question, I would say it's obvious. If you're only playing an hour every few nights or so, you're obviously going to see less drops. Still, you should be harvesting something.
To address the second question, I used MF switch until I got my Para leveling up a tad. Once MP was added to the mix, I discontinued the practice and was happy to do so as I despised having to do it. You can buy very cheap MF gear @ the GAH. It doesn't even have to have any qualities that would add to your details sheet. Just as long as it's MF. If you're hurting for gold, just save any junk rares you find that have MF. It's a pain to learn the technique of switching, but it gets easier as you practice.
Both Para levels and MP settings affect your MF.
Concentrating on one character is key, as Bagstone pointed out. Just figure what char you like best and go with it.
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@Rhye, lol I read that and realized what I said. I already edited and did not want to go back and fix it twice What I meant to say stormcrow is only item i have found since patch
@kalikoojack, yep gear is horribad hence the post, thanks for the guides.
lol...don't ya love it...."My gear is crap I don't get any drops"...."Well it's cuz your gear is crap".
Don't get too frustrated and make sure to maintain your sense of humor. Find a way to add MF and para level your favorite char.
6 pieces of my gear is self found, though far from godly, I can walk through MP's as high as 6 without trouble and can handle MP's as high as 8 but that's too slow for my DPS output.
I even made a thread called "Post your self-found upgrades here".....but you prolly don't want to look at that thread right now
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To OP: in the theorycrafting section there are threads about the most efficient MP level for farming, including some nice stats. Don't listen to that BS that you need to farm on MP5 to see legendaries. Stay on the MP you like (MP0 act 3 is totally fine and for most people even the most efficient place for XP/loot per time) and don't try to desperately reach the higher MP levels.
Edit: the only time you should go to higher MP levels is when you want to farm keys/organs for a Hellfire Ring, but you should get some friends to help you out, and group play changes everything anyways.
I will note, the drops are reliant on the number of kills you get. It's as with any gamble, the more kills, the more drops. It's simple so try and find a farming route that will net you the greatest number of kills. Once you have a good farm route, focus on running it as fast as you can with the fewest number of deaths.
Efficiency is the key along with your MF.
Edit:
I will note this as well, focus on ONE character - heavily! Get that character up high in Paragon.
1. Focus on gearing one character first. Gear that character strictly on DPS and EHP to improve your farming efforts.
2. Select a decent MP (1-4) to farm consistently; least deaths, fastest kills, most drops.
3. Get paragon levels. Your characters have nothing on them.
4. Gain levels, gain primary stats --> gain MF --> deal more damage --> kill mobs faster --> farm faster --> gain paragon faster --> gain more primary stats --> deal more damage --> kill even faster --> farm even faster --> save 100M gold --> kill even faster --> farm even faster --> gain more paragon even faster --> gain more stats and MF --> farm way faster --> kill way faster --> save more gold --> repeat until paragon 100
5. Keep farming.
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I know you're being funny but that's not really why we should be here, we're here to help.
I look back at some of the gear I was buying in July and August and I just facepalm. Anywho...let's take it easy on the poor fella. He's trying and wants to get better.
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You need to focus on ONE character only. Your lack of Paragon levels on one character affects:
1) Killing power and survivability
2) MF and Gold find.
I did not look at your characters at all to determine you spread your time and money thin for upgrades for a single character.
1. Play my monk and level his paragons!
2. Spent 120kish (MY POOR CASH FUND!!) and got up to 150mf without losing any life and like 1k dps and a tiny bit of resistances.
(I think this gets me to almost 300mf with neph buff) have to do for now.
3. Focus on act 3, (find good route) find better gear.
4 Focus on act 1 mp 1 (can still farm at same rate I was)
Again thanks to everyone that responded. I don't mind getting harsh answer as long as they are informative. Which they did. No bs but gave me things to look at.
Understood and I will add, not trying to start a fight. I just wanted to clear up that there are some of us that would like to see everybody excel in the game.
Truth is there is only one easy way out of grinding a farm route for good gear and that is by using real cash but for those who want to truly give the game a fair shot they have to grind and put in the hours of play. I just want to stress to everybody that at first it may seem daunting but the reward for a few hundred hours of game time is actually pretty nice.
My uncle has about 40 hours into each character and has them all at a level 60 / 1 Paragon and he too complains that he finds nothing worth keeping or selling. I tell him the same, take one character and grind like hell. It just takes time and a bit of dedication.
Do you play (US) or (EU)? There are a few people that may be able to help with gear and I am one of them. I have some things collecting dust that may help.
I play (US) but I know of at least one other fella here that plays (EU) that has a standing offer to help gear people that are struggling.
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Oh I know you didn't intend on making a 'gib itemz plox' thread.
A thread was actually made offering such assistance not long ago here. It's not charity, it's karma. We're not talking about game-breaking godlies either, just some shit to get the ball rolling with a little more momentum, aye.
Lemme know what Char you're intending to para level as you main and I'll dig through my stash and see what I got.
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Same here brother. I "farm" on MP5 or 6 (depending on mood) and I do so because the efficiency isn't as appealing as the challenge and fun of the game as intended. I goof around on MP 7 from time to time but it is a little slow for me as of yet.
I always feel like I'd be miserable if I was jetting along as quick as a robot, starting and restarting runs with great speed as to maximize my efficiency while blasting through MP1 Elites in one fell blow.
I want to die sometimes. It humbles me. Well ...like not in real life, that would suck. I mean the game of course.
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