Forum banned for speaking the truth -- RNG is a lie.

  • #1
    I was forum banned for "harassment" for this post. The entire thread was deleted, read for yourself and decide if I'm harassing or Blizzard is hiding the truth. I should've worded it without calling bliz incompetent or liars I suppose and it would've been more difficult to delete and ban but man do they piss me off.

    Thread Title:
    RNG is a lie. Bliz = liars or incompetent

    Last night mp6, 3 key wardens in a row no key. Tonight mp5 4 key wardens in a row no key, so yes I'm aggravated as I write this. These are successively 6.4% and 6.25% odds of happening. We all have "that guy" as a friend who has gotten 10-20 100m+ set pieces who have lower MF and are lower paragon than you, while you've never gotten anything worth 50m. I have one HC WD friend who got 3 pieces of his Zunimassa's set in in a matter of a few days around paragon 20. We're talking a WD getting 3 of 5 of the set specifically designed for his class. The odds against that are astronomically bad -- as in so bad that the only way it could have happened was other than random. I'll also add that the same WD just today got 3 set pieces on HC for other classes worth >100m each. He also farms mp0 and has managed to get keys at a rate far higher than 5%.

    So, how is loot distributed? Who knows, but Blizzard's insistence that it is RNG is laughable. Fanboys who post RNG is RNG when anybody says anything different remind me of lemmings that jump off the cliff behind the million that just committed suicide. Who knows maybe their blind loyalty earns them +1% MF every time they lick Blizzard's boots and I get another -1% (which would explain why my loot drops are so atrocious). There is some variable somewhere that makes some accounts more prone to good loot then others. Either Bliz doesn't know which makes them incompetent, or they know and aren't telling which makes them liars. Blizzard has lost all credibility by letting their lead designer make his favorite class twice as good as any other, so them telling us that it is RNG carries no weight in my mind.


    BTW, anybody want one of my 6 hellracks or ivory towers? I've no shortage of those items..

    EDIT: btw, Barb friend of mine just had 2 Ivory Towers drop within 15 yards of each other. They are IDENTICAL. RNG huh? BS! Quit lying bliz and start explaining
  • #2
    rng is rng

    Quote from Silentmike

    EDIT: btw, Barb friend of mine just had 2 Ivory Towers drop within 15 yards of each other. They are IDENTICAL. RNG huh? BS! Quit lying bliz and start explaining


    that would be a bug most likely ->http://www.diablofans.com/topic/76320-duping-in-diablo-3
  • #3
    Yes rng is rng. and the way your wrote your post ... no wonder blizz ban u ... i think u deserve it
  • #4
    you sound jelly
  • #5
    When will the tinfoil hatters learn?

    Just because you have more MF than the next guy, does that mean you are garunteed better loot? NO.

    You do understand what RNG stands for right?
    RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR. Please look at the first word, random. Now lets ask our friend google what random means:
    1. Made, done, happening, or chosen without method or conscious decision.

    So with your logic, random isn't random at all.
  • #6
    *shrug* If it is random, then people with lower MF shouldn't consistently get more and better quality drops. In addition, if there is a bug that allows 2 of the same item to drop 15 yards from each other is it not beyond the realm of possibility that bliz might intend for loot drops to be RNG, yet because of programming problems it is not?

    And seriously, Bliz encourages angry posts when they so obviously make the lead designers class easier and more powerful than any other class in the game.

    EDIT: i'd also like to add that I love the 6 legendary video. fake or not, the thing I appreciated was the wiz only had 3 buttons on his friggin bars.
  • #7
    You are blabbering utter nonsense without any proof whatsoever, whatever happened to you individually and the jealousy of that guy next door that got what he wanted does not, by any means, provide for any sort of proof. If you want to have your 'theory' even listened to by anyone - provide solid, statistical proof. Don't come with the 5 out of 6 didn't drop, that sample size is so pathetic it's equivalent to proclaiming that woman with dimples has a higher sex drive - sound ludicrous right? Same goes for your post.

    Sure, i did 7 wardens on MP6 the other day and i only got 1 key, the night before i did 12 wardens on MP5 and i got 12 keys. Seriously, just get a coin and toss it 11 times, please report your findings upon that and proclaim that there's a 75.234% chance of getting heads when tossing a coin.

    People like you should not only be banned from forums, people like you should be banned from life in general - idiocy like that makes life all that much more miserable for those around you.
    "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
    -- Albert Einstein

  • #8
    Quote from Silentmike

    *shrug* If it is random, then people with lower MF shouldn't consistently get more and better quality drops. In addition, if there is a bug that allows 2 of the same item to drop 15 yards from each other is it not beyond the realm of possibility that bliz might intend for loot drops to be RNG, yet because of programming problems it is not?


    I would like to stop you right there, See that bolded, underlined, italic'd, and coloured word there? Yeah that one.
    RNG doesn't follow your preconceived rules.
  • #9
    Blizzard is on a banning spree on their forums and have been for a long time. I got banned for complaining about bots in WoW on their forums because I apparently replied to too many threads in their eyes. Bad publicity for Blizzard = you get banned for discussing it.
  • #10
    Quote from Silentmike

    *shrug* If it is random, then people with lower MF shouldn't consistently get more and better quality drops.


    Small sample size, anything can happen. Again, random is random.
  • #11
    all these personal attacks, yet nobody offers any proof to dispute my claim, other than blizzard says it is rng therefore it must be rng. way to go fanboys, you can join the other lemmings off the end of the cliff. nobody has yet to address how 2 identical ivory towers dropped other than a vague reference to a possible bug.

    small sample size? you're using the 1-2 instances I brought up but i've got 20k+ elite kills which I obviously can't go into kill for kill. sure, on the big picture of millions of diablo players getting billions of kills 20k is small, but it is enough for me to interpolate and draw the conclusion that there is a flaw in blizzard's rng. but go ahead and continue repeating the same old blather with absolutely zero evidence other than taking blizzard's word for it while on the other hand complaining i lack evidence. kettle, let me introduce you to pot.
  • #12
    Quote from TheDemokin

    You are blabbering utter nonsense without any proof whatsoever, whatever happened to you individually and the jealousy of that guy next door that got what he wanted does not, by any means, provide for any sort of proof. If you want to have your 'theory' even listened to by anyone - provide solid, statistical proof. Don't come with the 5 out of 6 didn't drop, that sample size is so pathetic it's equivalent to proclaiming that woman with dimples has a higher sex drive - sound ludicrous right? Same goes for your post.

    Sure, i did 7 wardens on MP6 the other day and i only got 1 key, the night before i did 12 wardens on MP5 and i got 12 keys. Seriously, just get a coin and toss it 11 times, please report your findings upon that and proclaim that there's a 75.234% chance of getting heads when tossing a coin.

    People like you should not only be banned from forums, people like you should be banned from life in general - idiocy like that makes life all that much more miserable for those around you.


    and your evidence is where? such a hypocritical post, and i like your creative touch of banning me from life, did you learn that insult from one of the other lemmings, or perhaps your coworkers at mcdonalds?
  • #13
    Give me hard numbers, not "my friend got better drops," and I'll run some randomicity tests on them if you want. Also, you're talking about extrapolating, not intrapolating.
  • #14
    You sir, don't understand how odds are. Realize that NO MATTER how many times you flip a coin, it is NEVER guaranteed to land on one side, even when you've landed tails the last 73 flips.

    It's also quite humorous how it seems you don't understand the fundamentals of what 'random' actually is. Random is NOT average, those are completely different. The 'average' droprate of mp5 keys is 50%, but that DOES NOT MEAN you'll get keys half the time. This isn't blizzard, this is what is called random.

    IE; No mattter how many times you kill a keywarden, it does not increase your chance. I also notice you point out how many times you've gotten the same legendary to drop. Guess what, not all legendaries have the same drop rate. The better ones are purposely made harder to find.

    And yes that's complete harassment as you are slandering the company without ANY proof of your claims. Actually it is borderline illegal to try to publicly denounce their name and call them liars, when you present zero facts and if anything all the evidence points the contrary. You definatly should have been forum banned for that post.
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  • #15
    Quote from Silentmike

    *shrug* If it is random, then people with lower MF shouldn't consistently get more and better quality drops. In addition, if there is a bug that allows 2 of the same item to drop 15 yards from each other is it not beyond the realm of possibility that bliz might intend for loot drops to be RNG, yet because of programming problems it is not?

    And seriously, Bliz encourages angry posts when they so obviously make the lead designers class easier and more powerful than any other class in the game.

    EDIT: i'd also like to add that I love the 6 legendary video. fake or not, the thing I appreciated was the wiz only had 3 buttons on his friggin bars.


    I also like to 'lmao' when people puke out whatever shit they've read on reddit. Jay wilson HAVE a barb character, but you know what class, if anything, is 'his' class? The monk, he came up with and designed almost all of it's skills.
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChB2_IPc-HVXbi0jS1Riljg
    ^ YouTube.Com/IceBleuGaming ! It's a thing! Check it oooout!
  • #16
    Quote from Silentmike

    all these personal attacks, yet nobody offers any proof to dispute my claim, other than blizzard says it is rng therefore it must be rng. way to go fanboys, you can join the other lemmings off the end of the cliff. nobody has yet to address how 2 identical ivory towers dropped other than a vague reference to a possible bug.

    small sample size? you're using the 1-2 instances I brought up but i've got 20k+ elite kills which I obviously can't go into kill for kill. sure, on the big picture of millions of diablo players getting billions of kills 20k is small, but it is enough for me to interpolate and draw the conclusion that there is a flaw in blizzard's rng. but go ahead and continue repeating the same old blather with absolutely zero evidence other than taking blizzard's word for it while on the other hand complaining i lack evidence. kettle, let me introduce you to pot.


    Yeah, you're right, 20K elite kills IS a small sample size.
  • #17
    silentmike, by the look of your replies, blizzard didn't ban you for speaking the truth. i just wish they could deliver a bitch slap through a monitor, because you need one.
  • #18
    Quote from Silentmike

    I was forum banned for "harassment" for this post. The entire thread was deleted, read for yourself and decide if I'm harassing or Blizzard is hiding the truth. I should've worded it without calling bliz incompetent or liars I suppose and it would've been more difficult to delete and ban but man do they piss me off.

    Thread Title:
    RNG is a lie. Bliz = liars or incompetent

    Last night mp6, 3 key wardens in a row no key. Tonight mp5 4 key wardens in a row no key, so yes I'm aggravated as I write this. These are successively 6.4% and 6.25% odds of happening. We all have "that guy" as a friend who has gotten 10-20 100m+ set pieces who have lower MF and are lower paragon than you, while you've never gotten anything worth 50m. I have one HC WD friend who got 3 pieces of his Zunimassa's set in in a matter of a few days around paragon 20. We're talking a WD getting 3 of 5 of the set specifically designed for his class. The odds against that are astronomically bad -- as in so bad that the only way it could have happened was other than random. I'll also add that the same WD just today got 3 set pieces on HC for other classes worth >100m each. He also farms mp0 and has managed to get keys at a rate far higher than 5%.

    So, how is loot distributed? Who knows, but Blizzard's insistence that it is RNG is laughable. Fanboys who post RNG is RNG when anybody says anything different remind me of lemmings that jump off the cliff behind the million that just committed suicide. Who knows maybe their blind loyalty earns them +1% MF every time they lick Blizzard's boots and I get another -1% (which would explain why my loot drops are so atrocious). There is some variable somewhere that makes some accounts more prone to good loot then others. Either Bliz doesn't know which makes them incompetent, or they know and aren't telling which makes them liars. Blizzard has lost all credibility by letting their lead designer make his favorite class twice as good as any other, so them telling us that it is RNG carries no weight in my mind.


    BTW, anybody want one of my 6 hellracks or ivory towers? I've no shortage of those items..

    EDIT: btw, Barb friend of mine just had 2 Ivory Towers drop within 15 yards of each other. They are IDENTICAL. RNG huh? BS! Quit lying bliz and start explaining


    You must be new to RPG's, welcome

    The next step is realizing that the world doesn't revolve around you


    Oh yeah and also btw, not that you are even worth responding to, but you said the WD gets 3 set pieces for their class, that's actually more likely in this patch to get items that are class specific. But of course they got other set pieces showing that, obviously, you can still get items that are for other classes.
  • #19
    Quote from Silentmike

    all these personal attacks, yet nobody offers any proof to dispute my claim, other than blizzard says it is rng therefore it must be rng. way to go fanboys, you can join the other lemmings off the end of the cliff. nobody has yet to address how 2 identical ivory towers dropped other than a vague reference to a possible bug.

    small sample size? you're using the 1-2 instances I brought up but i've got 20k+ elite kills which I obviously can't go into kill for kill. sure, on the big picture of millions of diablo players getting billions of kills 20k is small, but it is enough for me to interpolate and draw the conclusion that there is a flaw in blizzard's rng. but go ahead and continue repeating the same old blather with absolutely zero evidence other than taking blizzard's word for it while on the other hand complaining i lack evidence. kettle, let me introduce you to pot.

    There's something in law called "burden of proof" - its something that usually falls upon those making the accusations, not the others.

    There were no personal attacks, just people telling the truth, or at the very least their personal opinion on the matter - and you seem to have a problem with either option.

    You're the one complaining, flaming, and generally being very childish about something real life itself probably hasn't taught you properly yet: that things don't always end up the way we like it, specially those things over which we have no control.

    The duplicated item bug is a known issue that has happened since the game was launched. I've personally had duplicate rares drop from the same elite pack. Blizzard doesn't seem able to fix it after a couple patches, but that doesn't mean they're not trying (there's no way to know if they are, to be fair).

    I've done 7 keywarden runs today, and then some friends and I spent 8 Infernal Machines on MP6. Guess what, one of them didn't get a SINGLE organ. I got 2, which is extremely low for how high our chances were. Newsflash: RNG is RNG.

    I'll leave this open for now, maybe people actually wanna discuss forum bans. If it stays on its current course (namely, heading nowhere), I'll close it.
  • #20
    It seems the definition of "random" has escaped our dear OP. In his blabbering, bloviated rant, he seems more upset at the randomness than anything else.

    You called the parent company that runs the forum "liars". Call the Curse company "liars" and I bet you get the same boot to the ass you got there, no offense. Just sayin......
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