1.05 Efficient key farming clarification needed

  • #1
    I was trying to find out if you can farm up multiple keys for the same act at a time.

    I want to farm up several keys for an act before moving on to the next act.

    I was thinking of doing:

    Act 3
    alkaizers route in act 3 ending with stone fort
    Act2
    vota act 2 ending in oasis
    Act 1
    Starting in a festering woods cave ending with whatever that zone was with the goat.

    Farm up a number of keys craft 3 machines and try and get some organs.

    Google has not been very helpful with the question of if you can have multiple keys from the same warden in your inventory.

    On the PTR
    I was able to get a key but after a few runs I was not able to get a second key. (MP 5)

    Could someone please clarify if you can have multiple keys in your inventory or do we have to create the machine before a key would drop again.

    I can't clear things on mp10 (well i guess I could bust out the tank gear) so it's hard to tell if its rng or due to the fact I already have a key.

    Thanks for the help.
  • #2
    After some more testing over lunch I was able to get a 2nd key to drop.

    It is possible to farm up multiple keys without crafting the infernal machine.
  • #3
    Quote from vastling

    I was trying to find out if you can farm up multiple keys for the same act at a time.

    I want to farm up several keys for an act before moving on to the next act.

    I was thinking of doing:

    Act 3
    alkaizers route in act 3 ending with stone fort
    Act2
    vota act 2 ending in oasis
    Act 1
    Starting in a festering woods cave ending with whatever that zone was with the goat.

    Farm up a number of keys craft 3 machines and try and get some organs.

    Google has not been very helpful with the question of if you can have multiple keys from the same warden in your inventory.

    On the PTR
    I was able to get a key but after a few runs I was not able to get a second key. (MP 5)

    Could someone please clarify if you can have multiple keys in your inventory or do we have to create the machine before a key would drop again.

    I can't clear things on mp10 (well i guess I could bust out the tank gear) so it's hard to tell if its rng or due to the fact I already have a key.

    Thanks for the help.


    At MP4 I got every key on my second run, 40% drop chance. I got the plans to make the machine on the first drop.

    With that said, I have a hard time believing you were farming MP5 multiple times without a key drop, you should have got it first or second try at 50%. No more than 3 runs should be necessary in the worst luck conditions.

    What I wanted to know, is -- if you could hold 2 machines at once. Because then I'd farm all three keys, build a machine, farm all three keys again, etc until I had 6 machines.

    That should garauntee a hellfire ring after running all 6 machines at MP4.
  • #4
    Quote from Laokin

    Quote from vastling

    I was trying to find out if you can farm up multiple keys for the same act at a time.

    I want to farm up several keys for an act before moving on to the next act.

    I was thinking of doing:

    Act 3
    alkaizers route in act 3 ending with stone fort
    Act2
    vota act 2 ending in oasis
    Act 1
    Starting in a festering woods cave ending with whatever that zone was with the goat.

    Farm up a number of keys craft 3 machines and try and get some organs.

    Google has not been very helpful with the question of if you can have multiple keys from the same warden in your inventory.

    On the PTR
    I was able to get a key but after a few runs I was not able to get a second key. (MP 5)

    Could someone please clarify if you can have multiple keys in your inventory or do we have to create the machine before a key would drop again.

    I can't clear things on mp10 (well i guess I could bust out the tank gear) so it's hard to tell if its rng or due to the fact I already have a key.

    Thanks for the help.


    At MP4 I got every key on my second run, 40% drop chance. I got the plans to make the machine on the first drop.

    With that said, I have a hard time believing you were farming MP5 multiple times without a key drop, you should have got it first or second try at 50%. No more than 3 runs should be necessary in the worst luck conditions.

    What I wanted to know, is -- if you could hold 2 machines at once. Because then I'd farm all three keys, build a machine, farm all three keys again, etc until I had 6 machines.

    That should garauntee a hellfire ring after running all 6 machines at MP4.


    6 machines in no way guarantees a hellfire ring at MP4............. :facepalmsmile:

    it will guarantee you 2 of each portal with 40% chance of getting each organ in those portals.
  • #5
    Anything less than MP3 is not worth it because the HP scales slower than the chance to get key/organ. If your DPS is high enough so that you spend a lot of time running rather than fighting, then MP4 can be worth it too. For MP5-6 to be worth it you need some pretty crazy DPS and slow movement speed to even think about it, and even then it won't really be much of an improvement over MP3-4.
  • #6
    Quote from Laokin


    At MP4 I got every key on my second run, 40% drop chance. I got the plans to make the machine on the first drop.

    With that said, I have a hard time believing you were farming MP5 multiple times without a key drop, you should have got it first or second try at 50%. No more than 3 runs should be necessary in the worst luck conditions.

    What I wanted to know, is -- if you could hold 2 machines at once. Because then I'd farm all three keys, build a machine, farm all three keys again, etc until I had 6 machines.

    That should garauntee a hellfire ring after running all 6 machines at MP4.


    You really have no idea what random means.

    What you have a hard time believe is just normal, sometimes you have a few attempts without drop, then you get 3 in a row, etc.

    With 6 machines on MP4, you should average 2.4 ring mats. Thats not enough, but of course you can be lucky.
    My monk Vin
  • #7
    Umm Vin? Wheres your neck at lol.

    OP, yes you can have multiple keys on you at a time. I was going to farm act1 till I got 10 keys, act2 till 10 keys, etc till i got 10 machines. I gave up though after 9 runs on mp3 without a key lol. Decided to go on to the next act.
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