Diablo ]I[ is epic but..

  • #1
    Hello fellow Diablo 3 fans.


    I wanted to share my posts that I made on the EU and US forums.
    It would be awesome if you could give me feedback on my thoughts.

    Its a wall of text but there is an TL:DR at the end.

    The topic title is the same on the US & EU Forums. "Diablo ]I
    Cant post urls. I have less than 10 posts here.

    Greetings fellow Diablo 3 players.

    I rarely post anything, I'm really not the public forum poster type. I just cant hold it in longer.
    After talking it over with friends I think its time speak out. Apologies if this is a re-post of the same topic somewhere.

    There is a an TL:DR at the bottom

    I'm a veteran gamer for 22 years, I'm 30 years old family man. Ive played all sorts of games and Ive always gone more for the adventure/action role playing games. One of my best memories was Dark Castle on Mac and Dungeon Master on Atari. But when I got my hands on the Diablo I demo back in 97. If I remember correctly the demo was up to the Butcher or 2 dungeons. I was mesmerized! Bought the game the day after. So epic so much fun! I played all the characters to the max. Really remember farming Archbishop Lazarus with my Rogue! I also played the Sierra expansion too. So good memories.
    I really didn't stick to much to Diablo II but I played 2x Amazons(Javazon and Bowazon) to ca lvl 69 and a Necro to lvl 60. I was a casual gamer back then.
    I have fond memories of Diablo II and the amazing Cow Level. Ive played some MMO's over the past 15 years, Ultima Online, Daoc, Eve Online and WoW from release, recently canceled my subscription.

    Enough of my gaming history.

    When I found out Diablo III was in the making I got very exited. At this point Ive become a hardcore gamer, been playing WoW way to much and other games as well. In vanilla WoW I was one of the first on my server to get the Thunderfury. I did all the hard work my self. So I know about hard grinding.

    When Diablo III had an exact release date I told my fiance that I would be moving out for 1-2 weeks on the 15th of may. So I actually left my family to play a video game. Well that's hardcore for a family man. Me and my 3 friends had a lot of fun. We played long hours and died a lot and had good laughs together. But I always found something missing, but I didn't think much about what is was. We got to lvl 60 and we where so exited to get to the item grind in Inferno and see all the amazing items that where waiting for us to loot of dead epic monsters. NV stacks at last and a lot of yellow stuff falling all over the place. We where so happy, at last we get some epic loot, Legendaries, Set Items, some crazy affixes and interesting items that would make my hero godlike.

    We where so wrong. Sadly to say it took me almost 2 months to realize that this game was all about making me become a farmer, a little pawn for a Big Blockbuster Gaming Company named Activision/Blizzard to make them more money.
    I will not use the RMAH. I was thinking of using it but after thinking about it, Ive come to the conclusion that I will not use it as it feels like I'm forced to use it. I don't want to be forced.

    I want to farm my own items and get the satisfaction on getting them my self. Like my Thunderfury back in the days of Vanilla WoW, I'm very proud of that even to day. It will always be one of my favorite memories of WoW, when I wielded my Thunderfury for the first time, I felt so powerful and actually I felt like I accomplished something, weird to say that when its a fantasy/action role playing game and not Real Life.

    I know Diablo III is suppose to be a item grind and you are suppose to do that for many hours, weeks and months to get the best items, that's fine. Ive done that in many games. I have patience and time. But the thing is I want it to be rewarding as well. I don't get any satisfaction on grinding for items in Diablo III, I have Pony LvL on farm, ACT1/2 in Inferno, cant be hassled with ACT3 don't have the equipment yet to get through it without insanely high repair costs.

    I got an legendary last night and ca 10-15 ilvl63 items. When I saw the legendary drop I didn't get exited at all, I really didn't and when I was Id'ing the ilvl63 items, I didn't find any excitement like in other games when I was checking out if they where any good.

    I love Diablo III in many ways, but the item hunt and the lack of fun, exciting, awesome looking, show off items (I was hoping to wield) is so frustrating and obnoxious. Its turning me away from this game. Which makes me very sad. Because I really wanted to like playing this game for many months or years with my friends and new friends.

    I really hope this game gets fixed, but I really don't think it will be. I honestly don't think so.
    Because every fix and patch is handled in the wrong way, dev's seem to work very slowly, from CM's posts Ive seen, it sound its very hard and takes a very long time to make the "smallest" fixes needed to make this game better.

    Why on earth are you focusing on Magic Find gear swapping? You should be doing the Dev Blog about how to make the game more joyful, more fun, more exiting, not how to fix something that really isn't number 1 priority right now. Try to change something that is more important like making the items more fun, give us the change to get a full legendary set when leveling. I didn't get one set item while leveling, I got one crappy 2h staf and a friend gave me broken Legendary Set Monk leggings (atp didn't work).

    Maybe the Item hunting isn't broken for Activison/Blizzard RMAH or the AH. But for the gamer who wants to hunt his own armor and weapons its broken, I didn't get any satisfaction on buying that 620dps 440LoH, 2.6Life Leech,103dex, Socket 1h Sword for 50k or 140dex, 40AR, 10%crit gloves for 75k Bid, I sniped those two, wow I got lucky there! Got a multimillion weapon and amazing gloves for a pocket change, I'm not really proud of it, but I got what I was trying to farm on my Monk.

    I hate to refer to other games when I'm talking about Diablo III, but how did you get this wrong. Probably 50-70% of the gamers that are playing the game are for the items and the hunt, if there where no rares, legendaries and set items, I don't think many people would stick to the game. Well for my part there are no legendaries and set items. Diablo II had fun affixes on items, more frequent epic/unique items and set items drops, and actually usable items, not all garbage, I didn't need to go to 3rd party web site to buy items.
    Titan Quest had frequent drops of cool fun unique items. Torchlight had some interesting items, looks like Torchlight 2 will have a lot of fun items, more frequent drops, more fun then the previous game but haven't checked that much on it. I played Kingdom of Amalure, it was an average game, but it was an insane item fest, I like it only because of the insane amount of items and the variations on crafting items. Sadly my HD crashed with the gamesaves, didn't bother installing again because of Diablo III coming soon after.

    Now Ive given up. I don't want to be forced to use the AH or the RMAH. I don't want to farm 8 hours a day, 7 days a week to get 1 or 2 upgrades. That's not fun for me. I'm not alone on that one, I'm sure of that. I'm glad that some people are still having fun. My fun right now is plowing through act1/act2 just to kill not to loot, because I know its crap. It's not going to last long.

    Ive got the 200+ hours I paid for, I'm not complaining on putting my money in this game. Ive played less hours on similar games and was not satisfied how short it was and easy. I just hoped Diablo III would be more fun. Which it isn't, sadly to say. I'm not going to uninstall the game, I´m going to monitor patches, play casually when I'm bored. Check with friends in co-op if some are online, which is rarely, mostly 1 or 2 online. Going to test Patch 1.1 and so on.

    Hope I didn't bore you to death with this wall of text.

    TL:DR; Im 30yrs, 22 veteran gamer, Item hunt is obnoxious, Blizzard forcing me to use AH and RMAH not appealing, turning me away from the game. Blizzard focusing on the wrong things in patches and dev blogs is just plain wrong. MF swapping? Really? Why not make the game fun first.
    I don't get satisfaction on sniping multimillion gold items on AH for 50-100k, like when I find this godly item that Ive been dreaming about, like when I got my Thunderfury in WoW. That's the kinda hunt everyone wants I think.

    Regards
    Umarth "The Ill-fated"

    "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -Albert Einstein

    p.s I'm at work writing this and I need to hurry home, probably have to edit this later, didn't read it over. English is not my first language. I'm actually Icelandic. Posting on both EU and US.

  • #2
    I'm getting fed upp with all this RMAH conspiracy nonsense crap...
  • #3
    Conspiracy, or simple logic.

    One thing that cannot be argued with is the fact that many people just don't feel as much satisfaction grinding for items as they did in Diablo 2.
  • #4
    You're not forced to use the RMAH, or even the regular gold AH.

    If you don't feel excitement when getting a legendary or identifying a rare item, that's not something Blizzard can fix. The problem lies in you (and while I say problem, it isn't really: it's just that your tastes have changed, so you do not find the same things exciting anymore. Which is fine). I know I feel excited when I see an ilevel 63 rare drop, just waiting to see if I get something awesome (got a couple of really nice items so far).

    You don't need to farm for 8 hours a day. You only need to do that if you care about being number 1: if you don't, then you can go at your own pace. There's no rush, so stop feeling like there is. Again, those are your feelings, not any fault of Blizzard's.

    Step away from the game. Take your time. Focus on yourself. You don't need to touch the AH if you don't want to, you can farm everything yourself. Everything will take a lot longer, but that seems to be what you want, so.

    So no, there are no fixes for the game to address your problem. Because your problem 100% lies within yourself. Don't blame Blizzard because of your own attitude towards the game.

    On a final note, you seriously left your family for 2 weeks to play D3? As in, left the house entirely and left your wife to deal with the kids by herself? I can understand taking a week or two off of work, but leaving your family? Get your priorities sorted out.
  • #5
    Quote from Ramsey

    Conspiracy, or simple logic.

    One thing that cannot be argued with is the fact that many people just don't feel as much satisfaction grinding for items as they did in Diablo 2.


    Do you think that could be attributed to the fact that you were 5-10 years younger, so were more easily amused? As a child (or teenager) it's a lot easier to get excited over something. As you get older that excitement falls away and you are entertained by different things.

    If you look at the games with as objective an eye as possible, you'll realise there's more similarities than you'd think. If you liked the item hunt in D2 but don't in D3, even when the item hunt is functionally the same (with minor differences for the sake of streamlining or changes to make it more fun), then chances are it isn't the game that is at fault: it's you.
  • #6
    Quote from Ramsey

    Conspiracy, or simple logic.

    One thing that cannot be argued with is the fact that many people just don't feel as much satisfaction grinding for items as they did in Diablo 2.


    I've been grinding away for hours, still feeling lots of excitement when I see several ilvl 63's dropping, knowing that one of them might be really good. Of course, just as in D2, it could be crap. The difference here is that we're waiting for that one really well-rolled rare, instead of waiting for that really rare Unique, while still finding plenty of other crappy uniques (remember those "FREE ITEMS!!" games where you would just throw out all your crappy uniques to lower level people who would ravish in them?) just like we find crappy rares now.

    As the poster said above, it's probably not the game, it's you. I actually feel that D3 is more fun in a sense since it's more accessible. The barrier to getting good gear in Diablo 2 was imo much larger than in Diablo 3, especially since I at least did not scour the forums for ultimate builds and stat allocations.

    People don't feel the same way they did 10 years ago and they want to put a reason to it, they want to blame something even though there might be nothing to blame. I'm not saying that's the case here, just that it's basic psychology. It's easier to find faults in something else than in yourself. Older people don't enjoy partying like younger people do, is it the clubs or the alcohol that's worse nowadays? Or are the rollercoasters not as good because they're not as fun as when you were a child?

    We change over time. Some things I like when I was younger, I don't like now, like FPS games. The games haven't become worse, I just don't like them anymore.
  • #7
    another case of someone playing too much. people are so excited to play d3 that they're going overboard.

    stop it! do something else besides playing videos games. if you live in a game you're gonna start having problems with it because you're frying your brain.

    if you have hundreds of hours on your account you overdid it
  • #8
    Ok so here goes - ive been planning on making a post on here at somepoint to share my thoughts / feelings on people's complaints and worries abotu Diablo 3 - so I'll do a mini version here.

    First, in reply to your feeling of being a "pawn" to work for Activision/Blizzard. That makes absolutely no sense at all! If you are morally apposed to selling digital items for real money, than dont do it. If you don't have a problem with the selling, just that Blizzard gets a cut, then you need to come to grips with the fact that THINGS ARENT free in life - the tools to sell these items are being provoided and maintained (could argue poorly maintained but still) by Blizzard - they get paid for that.

    I have sold over $200 worth of items, I've made double my money back from buying the CE - what is the problem there?

    Now, at your point of wanting to find your OWN upgrades. I just have to ask, what game have you been playing where AT END GAME LEVELS you are able to find upgrades every 10-15 min? Or every hour even? You played that part of the game already - your first play through is full of constant upgrading - eventually, your gear is so good that it takes an EXCEPTIONALY good roll on an item to be an upgrade - they are RARE yes, but you can find them.

    I'm playing a double resist Monk right now, and yes I have bought most of my gear on the GOLD AH, but 3 of my pieces I found my self - 2 while playing my initial Wizard and 1 I found a few nights ago on my Monk in act 2. They were Boots with 12% Speed, 150Dex 95 total resists (with the double passive) and +200 bonus armor. They are amazing boots! And I found them myself! They were rare.. the chances of rolling them up was insanely low.. but guess what?? Thats the game and thats what Diablo 2 was - the best items were so rare you SHOULD have never ever seen one. Item duping ruined that, but D3 doesnt have that problem yet.

    The fact that good items are so rare makes finding one SO awesome - at least to me! I sold a ilvl 62 chest piece for $45 that had high Dex, High Vit, Double Resists and 3 sockets. When I found it I thought "Boooyah! Rare piece for sure"

    My point here is - the item game has falws (I'll get to them below) but to say your not finding your own upgrades is silly - because you most certainly can, it just takes a LONG time - it wouldn't be fun if they werent rare when arming INFERNO!

    There are problems of course. No well defined end game added with the lack of PvP right now is making the game feel super lacking in the "meaty" section. Farming gear is fun for some (like me!) but to others its a neccessary thing to do so you can get somehwere else - like Top a Ladder season or Kill People in PvP.

    More problems include Legendaries being so horrible (with a few exceptions). With as rare as they are (I've farmed in inferno act 3 for well over 250 Hours already and only found 2 Legendaries) they need to be better - they need to compete and compete well with rares with only the BEST BEST BEST rare items out rolling the best legendaries. They also do need to drop a bit more often ESPECIALLY while leveling - as your leveling you should see them fairly often. Also - I think they should go the route where even TOP END legendaries drop more oftem, but make it rarer to roll up the best versions of them.

    So to sum up - there are problems - but I dont understand the mass "OMG this isn't what I thought it would be" cry from people. There are some things that arent nearly as perfect as I hoped they would be (items/legendaries/endgame) and there are some personal gripes (build diversity doesn't exist) but for the most part - Diablo 3 is exactly what I wanted and hoped it would be - a Super Slick and wellc rafted crawler with adictive to farm items. Thats the game! It can and WILL be more, but that is the core of the game. Play the core of the game and lets see what the future brings - Diablo 2 was not in nearly as good a place as it was at launch as it was 2 years later.

    Lastly - I think alot of what you (OP) are talking about can be chalked up to getting older. For example - I used to LOVE FPS games and and RTS game. I played them for hours and hours, and mastered them. I was a god in SOCOM 1 and 2 on PS2. But today - they just don't do it for me any more - CoD isn't a worse game than SOCOM was - it is in fact WAY better.. but as I've gotten older my tastes have changed - I'm now ALL about RPG style games and I think our tastes just change as we age.

    Any way - my personal feelings are: Diablo 3 is awesome - play it for what it is or, if its not your cup of tea, give it some time before you jump back in. Wait for PvP to hit and some kind of end game content to hit if endlessly farming up items for a SMALL chance at good gear isn't your thing.

    Lucky for me, it is my thing.. OOHhh is it ever my thing.
  • #9
    Diablo 3 is great if you play only 2 hours every few days

    :facepalm:

    rares have lost excitement with the new mechanic of NV with 5 stacks always dropping atleast 1 rare, that thing also pretty much ruins MF as a stat that you want on your item (swapping in items is entirely different thing)
  • #10
    Imo the issue lay in the items them self, it's just too random. In D2 items were random but uniques and sets have certain guaranteed stats thou the stats on the items had a range. In D3 items are more and less completely random and the range for the attributes are to large ilvl 63 items can range from 20 in certain stat to 200 or something.

    This makes the item hunt to random and forces you to use the AH. I have had runs where I had played 8 hours straight and gotten absolutely nothing worth while. Its okay that items have randomness to them but atm its just to much. Another thing that needs to be changed is Blacksmithing, atm you are forced to pay double for crafting opposed to jewel-crafting. First you need to salvage items (items that you could have sold to vendor or traded) AND pay additional gold to craft it and to top it off you have the same randomness that exist on item-drops.. I have spent millions of gold crafting and getting nothing good.

    I do love the game. Combat is really good but the item hunt is to random and discourage people from farming. Why farm items when you can stack up on gold find run like hell or nightmare and then buy the items you want. Sure this ain't fun but you have a higher chance at getting something you want then by just playing for drops.
  • #11
    I'm sorry, snowhammer, but I completely disagree with you. I played D2 for 10 years, the overwhelming majority of it spent in SP or small LAN/tcp ip games, and let me tell you this: I saw many of the good items in D2, and I didn't need to trade, didn't need to go to D2JSP, and didn't need to grind 8 hours a day. The exception to this were the very top high runes; i never saw those, but they were way too rare. What I'm saying is that getting your own upgrades in D3 (totally ignoring the AH) takes WAY longer than in D2. You tried to make it sound like it's not like that, but it is. You can add to that the fact that items in D2 were way more inspired. In D3, all you're hoping for is "bigger numbers". You want gear with more Dex that you already have, with more Vit than you already have, more crit, etc. In D2 there were loads of items, especially Sets and Uniques, but also Rares, that had affixes that were DIFFERENT. Not just "oh, cool, these boots have 50 str more than my current ones, so technically they're an upgrade, hurray". The items in D3 are lacking in the 'flavour' and 'variety' department, i don't think anyone can argue with that.
  • #12
    Quote from dadish

    Imo the issue lay in the items them self, it's just too random. In D2 items were random but uniques and sets have certain guaranteed stats thou the stats on the items had a range. In D3 items are more and less completely random and the range for the attributes are to large ilvl 63 items can range from 20 in certain stat to 200 or something.

    This makes the item hunt to random and forces you to use the AH. I have had runs where I had played 8 hours straight and gotten absolutely nothing worth while. Its okay that items have randomness to them but atm its just to much.


    Let me ask you, when you were farming in DIablo 2, did you get a good, usable unique that was an upgrade every 8 hours? Yes, items are more random now, but that doesn't make them more rare.
  • #13
    Quote from maka

    I'm sorry, snowhammer, but I completely disagree with you. I played D2 for 10 years, the overwhelming majority of it spent in SP or small LAN/tcp ip games, and let me tell you this: I saw many of the good items in D2, and I didn't need to trade, didn't need to go to D2JSP, and didn't need to grind 8 hours a day. The exception to this were the very top high runes; i never saw those, but they were way too rare. What I'm saying is that getting your own upgrades in D3 (totally ignoring the AH) takes WAY longer than in D2. You tried to make it sound like it's not like that, but it is. You can add to that the fact that items in D2 were way more inspired. In D3, all you're hoping for is "bigger numbers". You want gear with more Dex that you already have, with more Vit than you already have, more crit, etc. In D2 there were loads of items, especially Sets and Uniques, but also Rares, that had affixes that were DIFFERENT. Not just "oh, cool, these boots have 50 str more than my current ones, so technically they're an upgrade, hurray". The items in D3 are lacking in the 'flavour' and 'variety' department, i don't think anyone can argue with that.


    Hey Maka,

    I think we actually agree - your just putting a negative spin on it where as I'm putting a positive spin on it (meaning we have landed on different conclusions about what it means for diablo 3).

    As for finding more items in Diablo 2 than in Diablo 3 - yes I said that in my post. You found FAR more uniques and they were indeed more varried and interesting - I also touched on that in my problems with the game section.

    However, in diablo 2, once you had pretty good gear and pretty good drops it took an act of god to roll up a better item (One that maxed out all 5 stat rolls instead of just 3 outa 5 for example).

    Thats the point we're at in Diablo 3, its just the maxing out rolls takes ALOT longer because there are bigger gaps between the rolls on these rares then there was on uniques.

    Bottom line is - the item game plays out differently in D3 than it did in D2 - mostly because you are seeing TONS of rare items with a small chance at being a small upgrade and a microscopic chance at being a huge upgrade. Your seeing almost no Legendaries (unquies) and when you do, they are 99% trash. While the outcome isn't all that different from D2 (you kill massive amounts of monsters for small chances at awesome things) its feels much different, and I would agree not as good - but I believe the good news is they are fixing that bit (or at least trying) with the legendary item patch.
  • #14
    Quote from maka

    I'm sorry, snowhammer, but I completely disagree with you. I played D2 for 10 years, the overwhelming majority of it spent in SP or small LAN/tcp ip games, and let me tell you this: I saw many of the good items in D2, and I didn't need to trade, didn't need to go to D2JSP, and didn't need to grind 8 hours a day. The exception to this were the very top high runes; i never saw those, but they were way too rare. What I'm saying is that getting your own upgrades in D3 (totally ignoring the AH) takes WAY longer than in D2. You tried to make it sound like it's not like that, but it is. You can add to that the fact that items in D2 were way more inspired. In D3, all you're hoping for is "bigger numbers". You want gear with more Dex that you already have, with more Vit than you already have, more crit, etc. In D2 there were loads of items, especially Sets and Uniques, but also Rares, that had affixes that were DIFFERENT. Not just "oh, cool, these boots have 50 str more than my current ones, so technically they're an upgrade, hurray". The items in D3 are lacking in the 'flavour' and 'variety' department, i don't think anyone can argue with that.


    Exactly! Spot on!
    I love Diablo 3, but the thing is the item hunt is turning me off, big time! Like I said, I did tell my self that I wouldn't be able to get the best items in game and the rarest. But I should get something interesting. I was looking forward to wield some mediocre items and cool unique weapon or armor.
  • #15
    people are remembering d2 the way they want to in order to make d3 look bad

    you didn't load d2 and within a week have every item you could possibly want
  • #16
    Quote from Freyrlindal


    Exactly! Spot on!
    I love Diablo 3, but the thing is the item hunt is turning me off, big time! Like I said, I did tell my self that I wouldn't be able to get the best items in game and the rarest. But I should get something interesting. I was looking forward to wield some mediocre items and cool unique weapon or armor.


    what time period is appropriate for what items? what is mediocre?
  • #17
    Quote from maka

    I'm sorry, snowhammer, but I completely disagree with you. I played D2 for 10 years, the overwhelming majority of it spent in SP or small LAN/tcp ip games, and let me tell you this: I saw many of the good items in D2, and I didn't need to trade, didn't need to go to D2JSP, and didn't need to grind 8 hours a day. The exception to this were the very top high runes; i never saw those, but they were way too rare. What I'm saying is that getting your own upgrades in D3 (totally ignoring the AH) takes WAY longer than in D2. You tried to make it sound like it's not like that, but it is. You can add to that the fact that items in D2 were way more inspired. In D3, all you're hoping for is "bigger numbers". You want gear with more Dex that you already have, with more Vit than you already have, more crit, etc. In D2 there were loads of items, especially Sets and Uniques, but also Rares, that had affixes that were DIFFERENT. Not just "oh, cool, these boots have 50 str more than my current ones, so technically they're an upgrade, hurray". The items in D3 are lacking in the 'flavour' and 'variety' department, i don't think anyone can argue with that.


    I think you need to qualify that a little more in order to drive home the point you are trying to make. I would fully expect that anyone who played D2 for 10 years on a regular basis would see a fair amount of the best items, especially considering the changes to the loot distribution over the years. If you play D3 for the next 10 years I would expect that you could say the same thing. That is to say you found perfect or close to it rolled items multiple times. D2 made it linear though. You knew what items you wanted so you hunted specifically for them. As of right now D3 is all about the random items at the right ilvl that will hopefully roll the right stats. Is that more or less fun than D2? That is a matter of preference. I do agree that itemization is a tad boring and I do miss some of the crazy(er) affixes. I think Blizz got the message and we will see some changes.
  • #18
    Quote from Kisho

    You're not forced to use the RMAH, or even the regular gold AH.

    If you don't feel excitement when getting a legendary or identifying a rare item, that's not something Blizzard can fix. The problem lies in you (and while I say problem, it isn't really: it's just that your tastes have changed, so you do not find the same things exciting anymore. Which is fine). I know I feel excited when I see an ilevel 63 rare drop, just waiting to see if I get something awesome (got a couple of really nice items so far).

    You don't need to farm for 8 hours a day. You only need to do that if you care about being number 1: if you don't, then you can go at your own pace. There's no rush, so stop feeling like there is. Again, those are your feelings, not any fault of Blizzard's.

    Step away from the game. Take your time. Focus on yourself. You don't need to touch the AH if you don't want to, you can farm everything yourself. Everything will take a lot longer, but that seems to be what you want, so.

    So no, there are no fixes for the game to address your problem. Because your problem 100% lies within yourself. Don't blame Blizzard because of your own attitude towards the game.

    On a final note, you seriously left your family for 2 weeks to play D3? As in, left the house entirely and left your wife to deal with the kids by herself? I can understand taking a week or two off of work, but leaving your family? Get your priorities sorted out.


    You are maybe right there.

    But still my point is that the item hunt is so obnoxious compare to many other games Ive played.
    Kingdom of Amalure did have to many items imo, I didn't care that much about the drops that where set items and unique ones, but I had a lot of fun getting them and testing them out, different set bonuses and different build variations. Diablo 3 is not letting me do that (maybe in 2 years?), and that's very disappointing for me. I'm glad that it working for some people. I just had to speak out.

    Imo you should be able to get an full low level legendary set while leveling up, even couple of them. Be able to use the low level unique items that you get.

    I don't know, I just don't think Diablo 3 is worth my time anymore. I'm happy with the 200 hours I spent on it, they where fun until in the end.
  • #19
    Quote from Kaoskadosk

    Quote from dadish

    Imo the issue lay in the items them self, it's just too random. In D2 items were random but uniques and sets have certain guaranteed stats thou the stats on the items had a range. In D3 items are more and less completely random and the range for the attributes are to large ilvl 63 items can range from 20 in certain stat to 200 or something.

    This makes the item hunt to random and forces you to use the AH. I have had runs where I had played 8 hours straight and gotten absolutely nothing worth while. Its okay that items have randomness to them but atm its just to much.


    Let me ask you, when you were farming in DIablo 2, did you get a good, usable unique that was an upgrade every 8 hours? Yes, items are more random now, but that doesn't make them more rare.


    That would have been okay if I had good/great gear, but I don't I have mediocre gear and I can upgrade my entire gear (with HUGE upgrades) by using gold on the AH. As said its okay that great and godly items are rare but the range atm feels huge. If the AH did not exist it would have been fine but with it, its more lucrative to farm gold and not items due to the rarity of good items. Just do a search for a Set items and you will see what I mean. A set item should have a Base set amount of attributes (that is high) and have a range so that there are disparities but atm its to large.

    I know there are people who disagree, and its fine if they do. I'm just giving my thought on the matter.
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    Quote from Freyrlindal

    I'm happy with the 200 hours I spent on it


    that's around a full time job worth of hours. a lot of players complaining probably did this. they played 40+ hours a week or more and burned out. all of a sudden they start finding all of these problems with the game that drives them crazy. it's like hooking up with a girlfriend and then never spending time apart for any reason. you'll drive each other crazy no matter how much you love one another.
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