To me the AH in general is what is ruining the game for me. Not not knowing (thats a horrible sentence) what is possible to get of drops, immidiatly knowing the true power and value of the item you are identofying thanks to the AH takes away alot of the lure for me. There is just no real reason for me to play thanks to AH. I've cleared inferno with my barb, I know exactly what item i need to upgrade to gain a few percent better, and i know what it will cost me (gold). Yes, cost me, grinding to me is unecessary due to AH. And in essence playing the game is unecessary for me
Got to say he almost perfectly describe my problems that I'm having with D3. Except for the RMAH, never touched that thing cause it was an obvious fun-killer for me.
I think real dedicated gamers (Don't generalize it with jobless people who have no life. 'Cause that's just stereotyping the f*** out of something) nowadays have it hard to find lasting and fun challanges in games.
The general gaming industry now is targeting casual gamers more and more since it's a bigger audience. But with a different kind of audience it will result in certain aspects in games becoming more or less important than it would for the die-hard gamers.
Yes Diablo 3 was an easy mode game. It required very little gear to beat most of the bosses while just about every bit of trash was skippable to a point.
Main thing is ppl need to leave that single player mode and join some public games. You will be surprised how a group of people can help each other thru trash and bosses.
Sometimes i think its all boils down to some well known "game celebrity" decides to quite and complain and just about everyone starts thinking they have to be just like that person.
People who are still playing Diablo 3 are mostly lying themselves. Some are pretending that they are having fun and the other half is playing to earn money on RMAH (such is me).
STFU with your retarded statistics.
I'm playing the game and do not show up on your so called demographics. Haven't even browsed the RMAH and I'm having fun, along with a couple of friends that are doing the same.
Maybe its because I haven't reached 500h played (which is like 10h/day) and got myself burned out. With that amount of time spent per day on something you eventually get bored/go crazy with anything.
Don't have anything else to do in the game? Move on. Simples as that.
The way he words it is really well done. He does focus entirely on the points that made him stop playing (and it happens to coincide with the reason for a lot of people). Why can't everyone "complain" like he is doing? Reasonably and politely?
I'm not necessarily in the same boat as he is, but I surely understand it and respect those reasons. The usual whiners can just drown, though
In the end, even guys like him can always hope that things will be better in the future
No, I don't think it makes sense. Let me quote his original sentence: "Because it's a sanctioned part of the game, the potential for people to use it is much higher than D2 third party sites". That underlined part makes all the difference. I agree with you in that we simply have no statistics to judge how many people are actually using what, but I have to agree with sacridoc: the fact that the RMAH is developed by Blizzard, it's safe, and it's embedded in the game itself gives it a much greater usage potential than D2JSP ever had.
And you will note that I very much conceded that if you're only looking at it in black-and-white terms that is a very valid and reasonable argument. But, like I said, that is only a part of the story which is masked by not taking the *degree* of the change into account.
If we found out there was only a 1.5% increase in RMAH "use" (I guess we'd have to develop a rational metric for "use" but that's beside the point) between D2 and D3 then his argument becomes somewhat less structured and more along the lines of splitting hairs since a small increase like that could be explained away by a number of reasons, not just the RMAH's accessibility. If, however, we found that there was a 225% increase in RMAH "use" between D2 and D3 then it would stand to reason that his point is entirely valid.
I only sell on the RMAH. I refuse to buy items in games - I didn't do it in D2, I didn't do it in WoW (as much as I want those frikken vanity pets) and I won't do it in D3 or Torchlight or Torchlight 2 or any game. There is no doubt in my mind that paying RL money for items in a game will result in me eventually feeling like my girlfriend dumped me for a sexier man. I also understand that in a game like D3 that will ensure that I am not a "first place" person and, well, I think I'll have to live with that.
Either way, while I'm sure the community will miss Force, people do have to be responsible for their own decisions and most intelligent, rational, people understand that buying items in D3 is going to not only shorten the amount of time they'll get out of the game, but also reduce the fun they get from it. Imagine if, for example, you could start WoW with all 410/416 gear. You would kill H Deathwing one time and think to yourself "well that was fun, what's next?" Meanwhile most WoW players took months to accrue that best set of gear, you skipped the part where every week you crossed your fingers that one of your items would drop and you'd get it. It's essentially the same thing with D3 and buying uber gear on the RMAH (note the GAH applies equally if you've been buying gold). It's a phenomena that's not all that unexpected.
If anything people should take his video as a warning that pushing too hard, too fast, and abusing the RMAH aspect of the game is going to make you quit sooner, rather than later. Use his experience as a learning tool.
Which if you do... that's your fault, isn't it? Nobody is forcing you to use the AHs.
I guess. Just like it's not McDonalds fault that 80% of American Children are now obese.
I didn't deposit a single dime into my battle.net account, simply used the money I made from selling items. Unfortunately it still ruined the game for me.
The way he words it is really well done. He does focus entirely on the points that made him stop playing (and it happens to coincide with the reason for a lot of people). Why can't everyone "complain" like he is doing? Reasonably and politely?
I'm not necessarily in the same boat as he is, but I surely understand it and respect those reasons. The usual whiners can just drown, though
In the end, even guys like him can always hope that things will be better in the future
I completely agree. Unfortunately, the whiners muffle the concerns of those who choose to express their displeasure in a civilized manner. With someone like Force stepping up and making his concerns heard, in the way that he did, it finally gives the civilized player a voice in the on going battle to save Diablo 3.
I love how people come to Diablofans to complain about the game. Seriously go to reddit and do it there.
Yes Diablo 3 was an easy mode game. It required very little gear to beat most of the bosses while just about every bit of trash was skippable to a point.
Main thing is ppl need to leave that single player mode and join some public games. You will be surprised how a group of people can help each other thru trash and bosses.
STFU with your retarded statistics.
I'm playing the game and do not show up on your so called demographics. Haven't even browsed the RMAH and I'm having fun, along with a couple of friends that are doing the same.
Maybe its because I haven't reached 500h played (which is like 10h/day) and got myself burned out. With that amount of time spent per day on something you eventually get bored/go crazy with anything.
Don't have anything else to do in the game? Move on. Simples as that.
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Wise ElderI'm not necessarily in the same boat as he is, but I surely understand it and respect those reasons. The usual whiners can just drown, though
In the end, even guys like him can always hope that things will be better in the future
And you will note that I very much conceded that if you're only looking at it in black-and-white terms that is a very valid and reasonable argument. But, like I said, that is only a part of the story which is masked by not taking the *degree* of the change into account.
If we found out there was only a 1.5% increase in RMAH "use" (I guess we'd have to develop a rational metric for "use" but that's beside the point) between D2 and D3 then his argument becomes somewhat less structured and more along the lines of splitting hairs since a small increase like that could be explained away by a number of reasons, not just the RMAH's accessibility. If, however, we found that there was a 225% increase in RMAH "use" between D2 and D3 then it would stand to reason that his point is entirely valid.
I only sell on the RMAH. I refuse to buy items in games - I didn't do it in D2, I didn't do it in WoW (as much as I want those frikken vanity pets) and I won't do it in D3 or Torchlight or Torchlight 2 or any game. There is no doubt in my mind that paying RL money for items in a game will result in me eventually feeling like my girlfriend dumped me for a sexier man. I also understand that in a game like D3 that will ensure that I am not a "first place" person and, well, I think I'll have to live with that.
Either way, while I'm sure the community will miss Force, people do have to be responsible for their own decisions and most intelligent, rational, people understand that buying items in D3 is going to not only shorten the amount of time they'll get out of the game, but also reduce the fun they get from it. Imagine if, for example, you could start WoW with all 410/416 gear. You would kill H Deathwing one time and think to yourself "well that was fun, what's next?" Meanwhile most WoW players took months to accrue that best set of gear, you skipped the part where every week you crossed your fingers that one of your items would drop and you'd get it. It's essentially the same thing with D3 and buying uber gear on the RMAH (note the GAH applies equally if you've been buying gold). It's a phenomena that's not all that unexpected.
If anything people should take his video as a warning that pushing too hard, too fast, and abusing the RMAH aspect of the game is going to make you quit sooner, rather than later. Use his experience as a learning tool.
I guess. Just like it's not McDonalds fault that 80% of American Children are now obese.
I didn't deposit a single dime into my battle.net account, simply used the money I made from selling items. Unfortunately it still ruined the game for me.
I completely agree. Unfortunately, the whiners muffle the concerns of those who choose to express their displeasure in a civilized manner. With someone like Force stepping up and making his concerns heard, in the way that he did, it finally gives the civilized player a voice in the on going battle to save Diablo 3.
you are sooooo going to come crawling back after they implement pvp, theres going to be a force pvp video, il bet you half your pay check force.