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Better to farm gold than items?

  • #1
    Before we discussed the value of gold, let's have a quick look on the importantance of items in Diablo 3.

    Damage

    Unlike in Diablo 2 where we had skill levels and primary stats allocation taken in count. Diablo 3 relies solely on our total item DPS and our skill combination (not level) to do damage. Generally speaking as long as we are aware of the combinations and rotation, item total DPS contributes most to our total DPS if not all.

    Mitigation

    Again unlike in Diablo 2 where VIT can be allocated when leveling up and skill levels focusing more on resistance. Diablo 3 relies on item and our skill combination (not level) to provide resistance to all elements. Again we only can change our items to gain more resistance once we figured out the most useful defensive skills and know when to use them.

    Recover

    It is not difficult to tell that how item is more important than every before without the aid of potions. The DPS will help not only to kill your foes faster, but to get health globes out faster. Many defensive skills serve the same purpose. For example, Diamond skin of a Wizard provides the time that Wizard can tank and kill a mob faster to find a health globe before running with nova. The other aspect is that you will have to walk into a close range to the health globes in order to take them. This situation again may require a decent health pool or powerful skill cool down or a team member to tank the mobs away.


    What to do with gold?

    Let's put aside the cost for repair after wipes or durability loss, the cost of potions and dyes, the cost for craftings and focus on the gaming progression. How does an average player able to get pass hell?

    "Go back to the end of Nightmare and farm items for a bit. You'll be surprised what some upgrades can help you do." - Blizzard official recommendation Source

    I would give the same recommendation if we were playing Diablo 2, in fact I would farm Mephisto in nightmare for days till I feel confident enough to move on.

    Probably I am dumb, but please if anyone can explain which handful items that matters a lot in Hell or worth the time to farm for? I can tell you straight away in Diablo 2. I farm for things like "Shako", "Titan's Revenge", "Stone of Jordan", "Skullder's Ire" in nightmare.


    Where goes the excitement of farming?

    With the drop rate of Legendary items being extremly low in nightmare and thanks to the powerful auction house. We soon realized that lv40 legendaries are weak and will be getting replaced by cheap blue or rare post lv52. Gold is what we had to focus on in order to progress. Even when a nice rare item did drop, we had often felt it's better to sell it on Auction house and save up gold to buy a lv50+ item later. It felt like the items in nightmare compared to hell is like WOW vanilla items to BC. Greens in BC > WOW epics.

    Given gold is almost the main focus here when I went farming in nightmare, the experience was utterly boring. I wouldn't wow when I saw 300 gold drop from a boss or 4 more blues that I can sell to vendor or another rare I can probably sell in auction house. I wanted something big, the hope to get a lottery jackpot. I wanted to feel the excitement when farming with my Amazon in nightmare and dreaming the unique "Buriza Ballista" would drop with nice ED%.

    Same goes to "Hell", when I farm it, I couldn't resist the idea that not matter how good the loots are, come to inferno they will be replaced by rare as long as I have deep pockets....

    Solution?

    Bring some interesting legendaries below lv60 would help - Legendaries that have special affixes which matters and give a hard choice upon replacing them. This will make the group of people who cannot farm "Inferno" efficiently without keep visiting auction house and repair man, something else to do rather than keep farming gold and "loot" on auction house.

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  • #2
    When they brought in the AH into Diablo, getting gold has become a little more important.
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  • #3
    Quote from Alexander.A

    I would give the same recommendation if we were playing Diablo 2, in fact I would farm Mephisto in nightmare for days till I feel confident enough to move on.

    Probably I am dumb, but please if anyone can explain which handful items that matters a lot in Hell or worth the time to farm for? I can tell you straight away in Diablo 2. I farm for things like "Shako", "Titan's Revenge", "Stone of Jordan", "Skullder's Ire" in nightmare.




    Shako could not drop from nightmare mephisto. Only from baal (0.0824021%) his 5 minions (0.0005184%) and nihlatak (0.0545541%).

    Edit: I agree to most you have posted. I find it sad that the only importent part of your char are the skills which can be switched easily and the items. The items theirself have very few stats which are good (CC, IAS, CD, AVD, AR, Mainstat). I find that some stuff of the new blog could be the solution to the problems. Make legendarys awesome again. Drop fever but better rares. Also your idea to make pre 60 legendarys better is good. I remeber items like String of ears or bloodfist which were good even for high level chars.

    Excuse my english I'm not a native speaker.
  • #4
    I also have to agree that farming is becoming very very boring because of how rarely good/sellable items drop. You can easily spent 10+ hours farming without finding anything useful. Atleast in D2 you found a few shakos/jordans/oculus's, some runes, some sellable charms, some normal socketed items for runewords, some gems, and so on. In diablo 3 its almost impossible to find anything useful beside gold....

    I honestly dont think the AH is to blame. In D2 you had several sites like d2jsp which basically functioned like an AH, and that didnt made the majority of items worthless. The main problem is that only a very few statcombinations are of any use in D3.
    A weapon without a socket or high crit? -> crap
    A chest without high all resist? -> crap
    A ring/amulets without any of the following stats: CC/CD/AR? -> crap
    Shields? -> crap
    Shoulders without high main stat+high vit+almost max all resist? -> crap.
  • #5
    Quote from Ackbarspiff

    You can easily spent 10+ hours farming without finding anything useful. Atleast in D2 you found a few shakos/jordans/oculus's, some runes, some sellable charms, some normal socketed items for runewords, some gems, and so on. In diablo 3 its almost impossible to find anything useful beside gold.....


    sweet rose tinted classes.
  • #6
    Quote from dinamar

    Quote from Ackbarspiff

    You can easily spent 10+ hours farming without finding anything useful. Atleast in D2 you found a few shakos/jordans/oculus's, some runes, some sellable charms, some normal socketed items for runewords, some gems, and so on. In diablo 3 its almost impossible to find anything useful beside gold.....


    sweet rose tinted classes.
    Not saying you would find all the items i listed but surely a few of them, during the 10 hours.
  • #7
    leorics signet is a low lvl legendary that sells well

    so is a wd off-hand that reduces cd on zombie dogs which is worth a forune with a high cd reduction
  • #8
    Quote from titelheld

    leorics signet is a low lvl legendary that sells well

    so is a wd off-hand that reduces cd on zombie dogs which is worth a forune with a high cd reduction


    sell these while you can, if Blizz decides leorics signet or homonc can drop in inferno with ilvl63 stats, the legacy version will be worthless
  • #9
    You should hang on until the 1.09 is released. That is when I'm going to come back.

    SC2, here I go! raaawwwwrrr!!
  • #10
    Quote from Indimix

    You should hang on until the 1.09 is released. That is when I'm going to come back.

    SC2, here I go! raaawwwwrrr!!


    I think 1.09 will not be enought...D3 is screwed prity bad and it will take a lot of changes to repair it...

    but atleast we have SC2 which have much better team working on it :)
  • #11
    Quote from tommyct

    Quote from Indimix

    You should hang on until the 1.09 is released. That is when I'm going to come back.

    SC2, here I go! raaawwwwrrr!!


    I think 1.09 will not be enought...D3 is screwed prity bad and it will take a lot of changes to repair it...

    but atleast we have SC2 which have much better team working on it :)


    What are you talking about? There is a whole team of interns working on D3, lol.
  • #12
    This thread was created a week after release and just got bumped yesterday ~_~
    Too casual to upload anything new these days.
  • #13
    Quote from TianZi

    This thread was created a week after release and just got bumped yesterday ~_~


    Totally true, interesting how the question is still valid...
  • #14
    Please, don't necro threads (or bump them).

    You won't get a warning this time, Ephieria, considering that you're a new user.
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