They could add it if they made some restrictions like You could only trade with people that were on your friends list when the item dropped. That way botters and people selling items wouldn't really be viable. Can even add something along the line of Must have been friends for a minimum of 6 months prior to the item dropping.
Then china bots will apear and sell items for real money again.
so no tnx
Trade is not a problem.
Core of the problem is a botters.
In real life Trading/buying products its a problem, or stealers/scammers are the problem?
Trade is not a problem.
Core of the problem is botters.
Botters will find a way to use a tradesystem that is open to friends. They will simply add hundreds of customers as "friends" and sell them their wares. Even if there is a waiting period there will be plenty of money to be made for botters, and they will rise as a problem to new heights you couldnt even imagine.
And botters are not stealer/scammers. The customer receives exactly what he pays for. They are damaging nontheless to this game and i take a trade restriction to people i play with gladly in exchange for a lesser bot problem.
And drop those "confirmed 0% brain user" "use brain bro" innuendos. You really cant afford them.
Totally agree with you on this one. Opening up trade would create more problems than it's worth. As it is now they spam chat to power level people too lazy to even do the simplest thing, which is just to play and have fun.
Many of my friends (on my f-list since day 1 since we played together since the 90s) haven't played Season 8. Now imagine I invite them to S8, and play with them. Since I have no use for many of my gear anymore after doing Years of War/Masters of the Universe, I can just give them a ton of great loot, including well-rolled ancient items. They log in, get powerleveled to 70, get fully equipped and can faceroll Torment 11+. 15 minutes are logging in. They have all the gear, no need for Haedrig's Gift, no intention to do the Season Journey (otherwise they would've played before) - so what are they playing for?
Diablo is a loot-based game. If you give your friends all the loot, you're removing the sole purpose for them to play. (Unless they're the one in a million who like to grind paragon).
And of course the illegal 3rd party websites will find a way to exploit this as well, as others have mentioned. Thankfully, trading is not coming back. And it's good that way. You want loot? Slay monsters. That's it. There's no shortcut to get it from your friends. You want to give your loot to your friends? Well, group with them. Otherwise it's good that you can't give it to them; you'd lessen their game experience.
I know that people like trading, but please think about it: as good as it sounds, it's just bad in so many ways from every single perspective. I'd love to see the 2 hour window being extended to 5 or 10 (or at least for as long as you're in a game with someone), but beyond that - please no trading. It made D3 a better game.
Many of my friends (on my f-list since day 1 since we played together since the 90s) haven't played Season 8. Now imagine I invite them to S8, and play with them. Since I have no use for many of my gear anymore after doing Years of War/Masters of the Universe, I can just give them a ton of great loot, including well-rolled ancient items. They log in, get powerleveled to 70, get fully equipped and can faceroll Torment 11+. 15 minutes are logging in. They have all the gear, no need for Haedrig's Gift, no intention to do the Season Journey (otherwise they would've played before) - so what are they playing for?
Diablo is a loot-based game. If you give your friends all the loot, you're removing the sole purpose for them to play. (Unless they're the one in a million who like to grind paragon).
And of course the illegal 3rd party websites will find a way to exploit this as well, as others have mentioned. Thankfully, trading is not coming back. And it's good that way. You want loot? Slay monsters. That's it. There's no shortcut to get it from your friends. You want to give your loot to your friends? Well, group with them. Otherwise it's good that you can't give it to them; you'd lessen their game experience.
I know that people like trading, but please think about it: as good as it sounds, it's just bad in so many ways from every single perspective. I'd love to see the 2 hour window being extended to 5 or 10 (or at least for as long as you're in a game with someone), but beyond that - please no trading. It made D3 a better game.
Exactly!
Why is it not good enough to just power them through some T10-T13 rifts based on your power and give them the gear that way, something you did TOGETHER.
I want my desert before dinner and I plan on eating it TOO!!!!
Then china bots will apear and sell items for real money again.
so no tnx
Trade is not a problem.
Core of the problem is a botters.
In real life Trading/buying products its a problem, or stealers/scammers are the problem?
Seriously? Don't insult someone like that when this was WHY they came out with the AH in the first place- so much trade was happening in D2 that people were getting scammed. There was enough gold spam in chat during D3 as well. --> Yes this was a legit issue. Not just botters. The combination of them both is why trade can only happen between people who were in the group when the item(s) dropped. I currently like that system although I find that the timer is a bit long. I don't need 3 hours to decide if I'm going to let a person in my group have the item.
together friends with achievement reach, remove account bound
really cool?
Look its been 3 years since Patch 2.0 launch and 2.5 years since RoS launched. Why bring up old news?
The drop rate in this game is rediculously high right now.
Friends trade is overall a bad idea like many pointed out. You remember D2jsp?
I could literally overload my friends list with d2jsp people and sell stuff through paypal. Also what say it that my friend's list matches the person i'm trading with "list?"
Example:
set gloves drop with 50% CHD, 10% CHC, 8% CDR, and 20% AD. this is a "factory new drop" it would sell like hot cakes. I think ill mark the price to be $250,000 USD. And trust me i'll find someone that would drop that money for it.
The rarest ammy in vanilla Majesty Thrasher was literally kept on the down low because people didn't want chinese gold farmers to duplicate it. Guess what, it got dupped. Moral of the story:
Keep it way things are.
Am I the only one who find it fun to find items my friends need while they are offline and then send a picture of it to them... then making a soul of it
Or maybe just keeping it and dropping it in front of them casually ^^
I agree with so many here. Trading would only bring more problems to the game, then it would fix. I remember back when AH was a think, most of my time playing was from using the AH, and not slaying monsters. It was just way more beneficial just buying cheap and selling expensive, then to actually play the game. And this is what some of you guys want back!?
Why u blame TRADING for all bad staff like botters in game.
If there is botters, Blizzard should make good system trade, and if its impossible, they should make good gameguard, where bots dont exist, or spend more cash on banwave every 3 days for example.
Its so hard to understand?
TRADE=YES
BOTS=NO
BLIZZARD SHOULD FIGHT WITH BOTTERS, NOT WITH TRADE.
EOT
It doesn't matter how you put it. Trading will not make the game better!
In a perfect world without bots, trading would still make it so you can buy items for real money... Is this what you want, another p2w game? Last time I checked, those kind of games was frowned upon by most of the gaming community.
So yeah.. Trading is not the solution to anything! Just do as the game want you to do, slay some monsters
Trading would be awesome. but it must be limited. Like each player can send max 5 items per day and only to battle.net friends, which are friends longer than 1 week, or maybe even 1 month.
together friends with achievement reach, remove account bound
really cool?
They could add it if they made some restrictions like You could only trade with people that were on your friends list when the item dropped. That way botters and people selling items wouldn't really be viable. Can even add something along the line of Must have been friends for a minimum of 6 months prior to the item dropping.
Trade is not a problem.
Core of the problem is botters.
Botters will find a way to use a tradesystem that is open to friends. They will simply add hundreds of customers as "friends" and sell them their wares. Even if there is a waiting period there will be plenty of money to be made for botters, and they will rise as a problem to new heights you couldnt even imagine.
And botters are not stealer/scammers. The customer receives exactly what he pays for. They are damaging nontheless to this game and i take a trade restriction to people i play with gladly in exchange for a lesser bot problem.
And drop those "confirmed 0% brain user" "use brain bro" innuendos. You really cant afford them.
Why can't people just accept that you can trade with your friends. It just needs to be in games played together!
Others have said it, but if you open up trading, then China bots will just flood the game selling everything through spam in trade chat. NO THANK YOU!
Totally agree with you on this one. Opening up trade would create more problems than it's worth. As it is now they spam chat to power level people too lazy to even do the simplest thing, which is just to play and have fun.
Let me picture this:
Many of my friends (on my f-list since day 1 since we played together since the 90s) haven't played Season 8. Now imagine I invite them to S8, and play with them. Since I have no use for many of my gear anymore after doing Years of War/Masters of the Universe, I can just give them a ton of great loot, including well-rolled ancient items. They log in, get powerleveled to 70, get fully equipped and can faceroll Torment 11+. 15 minutes are logging in. They have all the gear, no need for Haedrig's Gift, no intention to do the Season Journey (otherwise they would've played before) - so what are they playing for?
Diablo is a loot-based game. If you give your friends all the loot, you're removing the sole purpose for them to play. (Unless they're the one in a million who like to grind paragon).
And of course the illegal 3rd party websites will find a way to exploit this as well, as others have mentioned. Thankfully, trading is not coming back. And it's good that way. You want loot? Slay monsters. That's it. There's no shortcut to get it from your friends. You want to give your loot to your friends? Well, group with them. Otherwise it's good that you can't give it to them; you'd lessen their game experience.
I know that people like trading, but please think about it: as good as it sounds, it's just bad in so many ways from every single perspective. I'd love to see the 2 hour window being extended to 5 or 10 (or at least for as long as you're in a game with someone), but beyond that - please no trading. It made D3 a better game.
Why is it not good enough to just power them through some T10-T13 rifts based on your power and give them the gear that way, something you did TOGETHER.
I want my desert before dinner and I plan on eating it TOO!!!!
Come on people.
Seriously? Don't insult someone like that when this was WHY they came out with the AH in the first place- so much trade was happening in D2 that people were getting scammed. There was enough gold spam in chat during D3 as well. --> Yes this was a legit issue. Not just botters. The combination of them both is why trade can only happen between people who were in the group when the item(s) dropped. I currently like that system although I find that the timer is a bit long. I don't need 3 hours to decide if I'm going to let a person in my group have the item.
The drop rate in this game is rediculously high right now.
Friends trade is overall a bad idea like many pointed out. You remember D2jsp?
I could literally overload my friends list with d2jsp people and sell stuff through paypal. Also what say it that my friend's list matches the person i'm trading with "list?"
Example:
set gloves drop with 50% CHD, 10% CHC, 8% CDR, and 20% AD. this is a "factory new drop" it would sell like hot cakes. I think ill mark the price to be $250,000 USD. And trust me i'll find someone that would drop that money for it.
The rarest ammy in vanilla Majesty Thrasher was literally kept on the down low because people didn't want chinese gold farmers to duplicate it. Guess what, it got dupped.
Moral of the story:
Keep it way things are.
Am I the only one who find it fun to find items my friends need while they are offline and then send a picture of it to them... then making a soul of it
Or maybe just keeping it and dropping it in front of them casually ^^
I agree with so many here. Trading would only bring more problems to the game, then it would fix. I remember back when AH was a think, most of my time playing was from using the AH, and not slaying monsters. It was just way more beneficial just buying cheap and selling expensive, then to actually play the game. And this is what some of you guys want back!?
It doesn't matter how you put it. Trading will not make the game better!
In a perfect world without bots, trading would still make it so you can buy items for real money... Is this what you want, another p2w game? Last time I checked, those kind of games was frowned upon by most of the gaming community.
So yeah.. Trading is not the solution to anything! Just do as the game want you to do, slay some monsters
Trading would be awesome. but it must be limited. Like each player can send max 5 items per day and only to battle.net friends, which are friends longer than 1 week, or maybe even 1 month.