Wanted to give you some thoughts I had from Blizzcon with my 3 friends who are all HUGE Diablo fans,
1st. Disappointment- This being the 3rd Blizzcon we've attending we had HIGH hopes for Diablo since it was the 20th anniversary and literally had no showing the past 2 years. Instead of the minimum we'd thought we get which was a D3 expansion we received a character pack. All signs point to this all being from a scraped expansion, that being said the Necro felt so crappy its like this was developed 2 months ago.
2nd. Shock- During the opening ceremony we all were counting down till they spoke about Diablo, and when they did we thought they were trolling us the entire time. Recreating Diablo 1 in a rift...pixelation...old movement...? No way was this real but it was...
3rd. Hope- Speaking with the Developers I asked them directly if they knew this was a slap in the face to their fans by selling us a character pack that seemed to be from a scrapped expansion. The developers all had a response that seemed like they knew, but a the same time something big was happening behind the scenes, This gives me hope they they understand in D3's state it was to broken and they've moved onto D4.
Questions we asked.
1. So it looks like their was a scrapped expansion, does this mean D4 is being worked on? A. In a very sarcastic tone "Whyyy would you think this new content is from a scrapped expansion..small smile ?"
2. How big is the Diablo team? A. "Dont think I could answer that without getting fired..smile."
3. Great, you gave us an armory that can hold 5 builds, does that mean we will have more than 2 viable builds? A. "We are working on more combinations of builds that dont rely on sets, but they all wont be high GR viable"
4. So we are assuming big things are happening behind the scenes, does that mean Diablo 4 is in the works since there is a new game director who has not been announced? A. "uhhhhh,,.pause...are you trying to get me fired!..laugh..smile"
5. Blizz employees asked us how we were enjoying Blizzcon. Our answer "We're not, Diablo got screwed again" . Their response " Yay..we are not a fan on how long it will take to get the character pack either. Our response " Character pack is a slap in the face to us fans, we wanted at least an expansion or D2 remastered. Their response " We agree! "
So take it as you will, but all the developers basically all felt the same way, they knew this announcement was not going to make us happy. They all seemed to feel the same way, but it seems there is something big in the works which would explain no HUGE announcements as my guess is D4 probably was not even ready to be announced since it seemed they scraped a D3 expansion.
I won't be attending blizzcon next year as it seems they're making way to big of a deal about esports and less about their games.
Hoping things change, but I would not expect anything Diablo related for a few more years.
I just have a response, having talked indirectly to Wyatt through BigDaddyDen, you sir seem to be over exaggerating the comments they gave, because I tried to confirm all of this with others I know that were there, and nobody agrees with what you said or has the faintest idea it ever happened.
Maybe they are all wrong, Rhykker, BigDaddyDen, Leviathon, Neinball, etc.... and missed this, but I simply cannot believe any of this to be true.
Do you have photos or something to prove this, because it is beyond belief to me atm.
I just have a response, having talked indirectly to Wyatt through BigDaddyDen, you sir seem to be over exaggerating the comments they gave, because I tried to confirm all of this with others I know that were there, and nobody agrees with what you said or has the faintest idea it ever happened.
Maybe they are all wrong, Rhykker, BigDaddyDen, Leviathon, Neinball, etc.... and missed this, but I simply cannot believe any of this to be true.
Do you have photos or something to prove this, because it is beyond belief to me atm.
Thanks!
Hahaha lookS that your life pUrpose is to defend Blizz at all cost... Can u pls stop trolling and comment in ANY thread all over the net? You post in ALL threads (dfans, battlenet) saying things that even a 10 years boy couldnt think..
It's getting really annoying to see ppl like you to polluting the forums.. Pls go play the actually game, not the forum game. That way you could have a more objective opinion. The threads all have different op's but one Demonmonger to post literally in all of them saying the same over and over. The only thing you do is to attack anyone that says something against blizz.
And the funny thing is that you havent spent the time in game to have the knowledge to comment and to say something that anyone can take seriously.
Give us a break pls....
IS there no salt thread on diablo fans? Maybe you should start one jmurbach... as you seem VERY salty... and a lot of the community is in the same place.
I enjoy that they still put in time and money into the game- I would guess D4 or something else in the future as they do still have a lot of fans interested. I knew they wouldn't live up to anyone's hype unless they announced an expansion AND D4 in progress as well as 27 new classes. So many people were expecting D3 to be the spotlight of blizzcon and it just seemed blind to me- just looking at the schedule from a rhykker vid made it obvious nothing huge was going to happen.
Hype expectations are very hard to meet. It's kind of a double edged sword whenever that happens, and I prefer it when Blizzard surprises us rather than try to hint at something that will never be as big as what people expect it to be. But if they never hype things up, people end up overlooking the announcements too. Look at Starcraft, very little attention was given to it and even my Starcraft friends didn't know of the new Co-op commander and 3rd Nova pack mission. It all goes under the radar.
I think something like D3 expansion would have been great, but we kinda knew it wasn't going to happen considering how long its been and with the loss of a couple key D3 developers. D4 announcement would have been fabulous, but it also signs the death certificate on D3 if announced this early. Even if D4 was years away and only in pre-development, people would be focused on that and overlook a lot of D3 anyways knowing where the Dev's focus is on. I think they're working on D4, but keeping it a secret prevents people from jumping to conclusions. It prevents spoiling a movie by talking about its sequel. They want people to stay invested in D3 and not just sit and wait for D4; and some of this content they revealed is indicative of that. Of course it's not D3 expansion worthy of an announcement, but like I said it's probably because they're actively working on D4 early development.
I have played diablo since diablo 1 release. I have about 2500 hours played on D3. I am very disappointed in the announcement. It is a slap in the face.
I have played diablo since diablo 1 release. I have about 2500 hours played on D3. I am very disappointed in the announcement. It is a slap in the face.
Same situation as me except less hours on D3. It doesn't bother me because they put more into this game then they ever did in any of the other instalments (they also had to because vanilla was crap). Every Diablo game goes into maintenance mode at some point, heck this game almost made it 5 years before that point, but now they are adding DLC... cry much?
Then again could be trolling... or sarcasm? I dunno, all these salty tears of late are delicious though.
Sure the probably scraped the 2nd expansion (story of diablo 3 not complete). And at this stage we probably wont get it.
But what we will get instead is the small new additions every now and then sure it's not an expansion. Sure as content goes it's just a few new tile sets for Rifts and Grifts.
Also i think once the necromancer pack has been released they will have added more content and features Post RoS then in RoS itself. and they will probably continue to add stuff every few months over the next 5 years. and guess what we have paid for it the cost of the char pack (Likley 10-15 USD)
And as for Diablo 3s first micro transaction outside of china, this opens the window for us to get a store with wings, pets, portraits, banners ect and guess what all they added revenue will bring to diablo more developers for more content.
Who knows we might get a new character pack and a few new monster types and tilesets every year now.
And as far as the continuation of the story they could just release a story pack to tell the rest of the story that was probably scraped with the 2nd expansion. When was the last time you played trough story mode (non-speedrunner)
Don't count diablo as dead yet sure it's samey for the high GRift pushers, but they are just a fraction of the Playerbase
Same situation as me except less hours on D3. It doesn't bother me because they put more into this game then they ever did in any of the other instalments (they also had to because vanilla was crap). Every Diablo game goes into maintenance mode at some point, heck this game almost made it 5 years before that point, but now they are adding DLC... cry much?
Then again could be trolling... or sarcasm? I dunno, all these salty tears of late are delicious though.
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I am glad the disappointment of the fan base is so entertaining for you. At least you get something out of the Diablo series. I am not surprised you have fewer hours into D3, You probably spend most of your day trolling forums. Well played sir.
I am glad the disappointment of the fan base is so entertaining for you. At least you get something out of the Diablo series. I am not surprised you have fewer hours into D3, You probably spend most of your day trolling forums. Well played sir.
Cheers, it's always good to see the (needy) perspective of millennials, can't wait for you guys to be running the show. My faith in our future has been restored to the levels of Trump in power If you really wanted to admit a true slap in the face how about waiting almost a decade for D3 and being the complete flop it was from vanilla. Get over your self.
So in order to justify an incompetent of today you try to find a worst in the past! ?
I bet the money you spend are not coming from your own pocket them so you don't care that much.
Not sure where your going with this.... D3 WAS a BIG let down. They eventuality "fixed" it with RoS, but the game has a lot of flaws and it has muddled its way to something completely different that what the franchise was based off of.
Apparently getting $0.04 entertainment per hour ($100 / 2500 hours) and having continuous patches for four years is the biggest slap in the face ever? Considering it took 10 years to "develop" this game and people are losing their mind D4 hasn't come out within 4 years of a release of D3 is just pure entitlement. This also isn't a MMO where multiple expansions are added for funz. Each expansion turns all equipment obsolete then you have multiple years of re-balancing all over again. They are actually adding additional content (for a fee of course) where as most games of this genre would have been left to maintenance years ago. Are people mad this doesn't get the attention like WoW does? I'm seriously trying to understand your thinking.
I can assure you I spend my own money to play video games, the fact I played D1 would ball park me at least 25+ years old and I can tell you my parents aren't paying my bills.
Im over exaggerating? Are you kidding? I was there, these were the exact responses I got. Because im not a youtuber that wants your views I am lying?
Stop being a sheep to Blizzard. You can see that I was there at my twitter @RealMuscleGamer
Also no one agrees with me? Any real DIABLO fan is extremely disappointed with the showing Diablo got..
I use to be a very big diablo streamer but work took over.
I am a huge Diablo fan, and while I wasn't fully satisfied I was not left with a nasty taste in my mouth. I don't think you should be calling out whos a true Diablo fan and who's not. Right now I see many "diablo fans" on this diablofans website acting very salty, toxic, and generally just bad. Not saying you are one by any means.
Also I want to say, I am for certain we are getting a 2nd xpac still. We have 2 new classes to discover and a story to complete. By that alone does not mean we will get one but, I tend to think optimistically about things. Its best to not expect things but always give a chance?
Who knows whats to come in Diablo's future all I know is that as long as the game isn't pay to win like it was when released I am A ok with this.
Afternoon Guys,
Wanted to give you some thoughts I had from Blizzcon with my 3 friends who are all HUGE Diablo fans,
1st. Disappointment- This being the 3rd Blizzcon we've attending we had HIGH hopes for Diablo since it was the 20th anniversary and literally had no showing the past 2 years. Instead of the minimum we'd thought we get which was a D3 expansion we received a character pack. All signs point to this all being from a scraped expansion, that being said the Necro felt so crappy its like this was developed 2 months ago.
2nd. Shock- During the opening ceremony we all were counting down till they spoke about Diablo, and when they did we thought they were trolling us the entire time. Recreating Diablo 1 in a rift...pixelation...old movement...? No way was this real but it was...
3rd. Hope- Speaking with the Developers I asked them directly if they knew this was a slap in the face to their fans by selling us a character pack that seemed to be from a scrapped expansion. The developers all had a response that seemed like they knew, but a the same time something big was happening behind the scenes, This gives me hope they they understand in D3's state it was to broken and they've moved onto D4.
Questions we asked.
1. So it looks like their was a scrapped expansion, does this mean D4 is being worked on? A. In a very sarcastic tone "Whyyy would you think this new content is from a scrapped expansion..small smile ?"
2. How big is the Diablo team? A. "Dont think I could answer that without getting fired..smile."
3. Great, you gave us an armory that can hold 5 builds, does that mean we will have more than 2 viable builds? A. "We are working on more combinations of builds that dont rely on sets, but they all wont be high GR viable"
4. So we are assuming big things are happening behind the scenes, does that mean Diablo 4 is in the works since there is a new game director who has not been announced? A. "uhhhhh,,.pause...are you trying to get me fired!..laugh..smile"
5. Blizz employees asked us how we were enjoying Blizzcon. Our answer "We're not, Diablo got screwed again" . Their response " Yay..we are not a fan on how long it will take to get the character pack either. Our response " Character pack is a slap in the face to us fans, we wanted at least an expansion or D2 remastered. Their response " We agree! "
So take it as you will, but all the developers basically all felt the same way, they knew this announcement was not going to make us happy. They all seemed to feel the same way, but it seems there is something big in the works which would explain no HUGE announcements as my guess is D4 probably was not even ready to be announced since it seemed they scraped a D3 expansion.
I won't be attending blizzcon next year as it seems they're making way to big of a deal about esports and less about their games.
Hoping things change, but I would not expect anything Diablo related for a few more years.
Let me know if you guys have any questions!
I just have a response, having talked indirectly to Wyatt through BigDaddyDen, you sir seem to be over exaggerating the comments they gave, because I tried to confirm all of this with others I know that were there, and nobody agrees with what you said or has the faintest idea it ever happened.
Maybe they are all wrong, Rhykker, BigDaddyDen, Leviathon, Neinball, etc.... and missed this, but I simply cannot believe any of this to be true.
Do you have photos or something to prove this, because it is beyond belief to me atm.
Thanks!
Im over exaggerating? Are you kidding? I was there, these were the exact responses I got. Because im not a youtuber that wants your views I am lying?
Stop being a sheep to Blizzard. You can see that I was there at my twitter @RealMuscleGamer
Also no one agrees with me? Any real DIABLO fan is extremely disappointed with the showing Diablo got..
I use to be a very big diablo streamer but work took over.
It's getting really annoying to see ppl like you to polluting the forums.. Pls go play the actually game, not the forum game. That way you could have a more objective opinion. The threads all have different op's but one Demonmonger to post literally in all of them saying the same over and over. The only thing you do is to attack anyone that says something against blizz.
And the funny thing is that you havent spent the time in game to have the knowledge to comment and to say something that anyone can take seriously.
Give us a break pls....
IS there no salt thread on diablo fans? Maybe you should start one jmurbach... as you seem VERY salty... and a lot of the community is in the same place.
I enjoy that they still put in time and money into the game- I would guess D4 or something else in the future as they do still have a lot of fans interested. I knew they wouldn't live up to anyone's hype unless they announced an expansion AND D4 in progress as well as 27 new classes. So many people were expecting D3 to be the spotlight of blizzcon and it just seemed blind to me- just looking at the schedule from a rhykker vid made it obvious nothing huge was going to happen.
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Yeah, this is completely made up BS as the OP decided to flame me via message instead of responding.Just wanted to inform everyone of that."
what? Proof of this? Please screenshot for everyone . Mods please prove this is a lie, as he is direct trolling/lying.
lol bro are you on crack? I've never messaged anyone on this thread. Are you this bad of a troll?
Hype expectations are very hard to meet. It's kind of a double edged sword whenever that happens, and I prefer it when Blizzard surprises us rather than try to hint at something that will never be as big as what people expect it to be. But if they never hype things up, people end up overlooking the announcements too. Look at Starcraft, very little attention was given to it and even my Starcraft friends didn't know of the new Co-op commander and 3rd Nova pack mission. It all goes under the radar.
I think something like D3 expansion would have been great, but we kinda knew it wasn't going to happen considering how long its been and with the loss of a couple key D3 developers. D4 announcement would have been fabulous, but it also signs the death certificate on D3 if announced this early. Even if D4 was years away and only in pre-development, people would be focused on that and overlook a lot of D3 anyways knowing where the Dev's focus is on. I think they're working on D4, but keeping it a secret prevents people from jumping to conclusions. It prevents spoiling a movie by talking about its sequel. They want people to stay invested in D3 and not just sit and wait for D4; and some of this content they revealed is indicative of that. Of course it's not D3 expansion worthy of an announcement, but like I said it's probably because they're actively working on D4 early development.
I have played diablo since diablo 1 release. I have about 2500 hours played on D3. I am very disappointed in the announcement. It is a slap in the face.
Same situation as me except less hours on D3. It doesn't bother me because they put more into this game then they ever did in any of the other instalments (they also had to because vanilla was crap). Every Diablo game goes into maintenance mode at some point, heck this game almost made it 5 years before that point, but now they are adding DLC... cry much?
Then again could be trolling... or sarcasm? I dunno, all these salty tears of late are delicious though.
Sure the probably scraped the 2nd expansion (story of diablo 3 not complete). And at this stage we probably wont get it.
But what we will get instead is the small new additions every now and then sure it's not an expansion. Sure as content goes it's just a few new tile sets for Rifts and Grifts.
Also i think once the necromancer pack has been released they will have added more content and features Post RoS then in RoS itself. and they will probably continue to add stuff every few months over the next 5 years. and guess what we have paid for it the cost of the char pack (Likley 10-15 USD)
And as for Diablo 3s first micro transaction outside of china, this opens the window for us to get a store with wings, pets, portraits, banners ect and guess what all they added revenue will bring to diablo more developers for more content.
Who knows we might get a new character pack and a few new monster types and tilesets every year now.
And as far as the continuation of the story they could just release a story pack to tell the rest of the story that was probably scraped with the 2nd expansion. When was the last time you played trough story mode (non-speedrunner)
Don't count diablo as dead yet sure it's samey for the high GRift pushers, but they are just a fraction of the Playerbase
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Same situation as me except less hours on D3. It doesn't bother me because they put more into this game then they ever did in any of the other instalments (they also had to because vanilla was crap). Every Diablo game goes into maintenance mode at some point, heck this game almost made it 5 years before that point, but now they are adding DLC... cry much?
Then again could be trolling... or sarcasm? I dunno, all these salty tears of late are delicious though.
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Playing Diablo since 97. I know nothing and having nothing good to say, I be a troll.
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I am glad the disappointment of the fan base is so entertaining for you. At least you get something out of the Diablo series. I am not surprised you have fewer hours into D3, You probably spend most of your day trolling forums. Well played sir.
Cheers, it's always good to see the (needy) perspective of millennials, can't wait for you guys to be running the show. My faith in our future has been restored to the levels of Trump in power If you really wanted to admit a true slap in the face how about waiting almost a decade for D3 and being the complete flop it was from vanilla. Get over your self.
Not sure where your going with this.... D3 WAS a BIG let down. They eventuality "fixed" it with RoS, but the game has a lot of flaws and it has muddled its way to something completely different that what the franchise was based off of.
Apparently getting $0.04 entertainment per hour ($100 / 2500 hours) and having continuous patches for four years is the biggest slap in the face ever? Considering it took 10 years to "develop" this game and people are losing their mind D4 hasn't come out within 4 years of a release of D3 is just pure entitlement. This also isn't a MMO where multiple expansions are added for funz. Each expansion turns all equipment obsolete then you have multiple years of re-balancing all over again. They are actually adding additional content (for a fee of course) where as most games of this genre would have been left to maintenance years ago. Are people mad this doesn't get the attention like WoW does? I'm seriously trying to understand your thinking.
I can assure you I spend my own money to play video games, the fact I played D1 would ball park me at least 25+ years old and I can tell you my parents aren't paying my bills.
I am a huge Diablo fan, and while I wasn't fully satisfied I was not left with a nasty taste in my mouth. I don't think you should be calling out whos a true Diablo fan and who's not. Right now I see many "diablo fans" on this diablofans website acting very salty, toxic, and generally just bad. Not saying you are one by any means.
Also I want to say, I am for certain we are getting a 2nd xpac still. We have 2 new classes to discover and a story to complete. By that alone does not mean we will get one but, I tend to think optimistically about things. Its best to not expect things but always give a chance?
Who knows whats to come in Diablo's future all I know is that as long as the game isn't pay to win like it was when released I am A ok with this.
Btw ty for your info and posting.