So it doesn't affect you either way and while you would never personally play it on a console, you wouldn't be opposed to letting people who enjoy the game that way do so?
So it doesn't affect you either way and while you would never personally play it on a console, you wouldn't be opposed to letting people who enjoy the game that way do so?
Of course I don't mind. Although it will bug me a bit, there is so little PC exclusives these days.
Although there might be the problem of community consolized. A lot of kids running around b.net, thats all we need.
But as to that, i'm not concerned. If Blizzard, by some crazy idea (or not so crazy) will port it to consoles, it will be a long time after release, just to squeeze more money.
For instance, The Witcher - great game, was a bit upset its coming to Console with some "extras", but whatever, its long time since i stopped playing anyway.
You PC guys just trying to Justify the Expensive PC you spend on... cuz there is nothing else that makes sense why Console can't have a game like Diablo anymore.
Already told you MANY MANY games that are like Diablo on on Xbox 360, PS3... Mouse NO longer matters in gaming!
But I CAN understand you are just trying to justify the expensive PC you spend on.
"Oh I spend $2000 on this PC Why the hell console gamers spend ONLY $200 and play it too with the same level o graphics?" Oh I KNOW how you feel.
Well, give it up! If Diablo 3 Makers/Blizzard wants it on Consoles, I rather they DO than listen to you guys!
Make it FAIR to every gamer, instead of satisfy one group of gamers that makes NO sense at all now days to need mouse or it can't goto a console!
Those of you say Oblivion/Fallout 3 is Dumbed down for console.
You know what?
Who cares? They are Both over 100-500 hours of gaming.
More than satisfying.
You think I care about some Mod that fanboys create for these games, that is the only thing missing from my experience?
NO!
Fallout 3/Oblivion are not that Dumbed down at all. They are JUST fine! And, so will Diablo. The Devs will NOT cut down/leave out any levels or spells, items whatever. They are just going to leave OUT the ability to Mod like Fallout/Oblivion, or maybe play on Battle.net, but which is 100% fine with me!
My MAIN priority right FIRST is to play it Single Player in the BEST Graphics possible without spend $1000+.
If I feel the MP urge is strong, I probably just buy the PC version, too and tone down the graphics all the way DOWN to play the MP!
These years, I don't think I want to spend a grand on computers!!! Economy is so BAD!!!
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Blizzard, please put back the single player offline mode!
Barely anybody spends 2000$ on a PC.
You can get a PC today that far outstrips consoles for about $800, probably even less.
In the console vs computer argument, computers win.
Computers can do MUCH more.
Granted, consoles are getting more features these days, but the computer still has many more options available to it.
And yes, games are usually very dumbed down for consoles.
And as for Mods, most are actually very good, adding tons of extra gameplay and options to games.
Most people say that the only way to play oblivion, is heavily modded.
I have to agree, by itself, it's a somewhat shitty game (combat system is to blame).
And again... you can get a decent computer for about $500-$800.
Biggest misconception people have about PC's is the price, if you build it yourself, you save yourself assloads of money.
It's the people who buy their computers from retailers that get fucked.
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"One in every 10 million people can potentially have a headache from this pill." God forbid she is the 0.000000001% of having a headache.
And again... you can get a decent computer for about $500-$800.
Biggest misconception people have about PC's is the price, if you build it yourself, you save yourself assloads of money.
It's the people who buy their computers from retailers that get fucked.
Thats true. Best thing is to build it yourself and if you can't do that, I'm sure everyone knows at least one person that could help them there.
Even then, when you know where to buy your computer and don't go in shitty amateur shops asking 200$ for your 1 gb stick of ram, you can get a nice computer.
Its just that most don't even try. They just take a look at the prices for a full computer (and generally the strongest are the first one they will see), think its what you need to decently run games, see the INSANE price and say "omg, computer are overpriced!".
Its a bit annoying.
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My MAIN priority right FIRST is to play it Single Player in the BEST Graphics possible without spend $1000+.
See that? How sad is it that most people think this way? Its just complete ignorance and people just go ahead and buy consoles. I just don't get it.
Completely agreed man, it's ignorance like that, that gives console gamers a bad name.
I really don't get it either... with a little research and work, you can get a more effective way to play games, with more options available to you.
*sigh*
Some people...
Heh, and about building your own computer, I'm in the midst of doing so right now.
Got 2 friends who are helping me out with it (since, admitedly, I'm a bit of a tard when it comes to hardware pricing).
Got a decent rig priced out at about 800 or so, just saving up right now.
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"One in every 10 million people can potentially have a headache from this pill." God forbid she is the 0.000000001% of having a headache.
Even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value, marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could
Barely anybody spends 200$ on a PC.
You can get a PC today that far outstrips consoles for about $800, probably even less.
Not by buying from any retailers, or buying a cool PC from Alienware. They are all over $800!
In the console vs computer argument, computers win.
Computers can do MUCH more.
Granted, consoles are getting more features these days, but the computer still has many more options available to it.
Again, a Computer-biased statement that makes NO sense, you are just trying to justice PC for NO good reason!
Of course it CAN do more, but most of the apps to edit graphics, edit Videos and surf the Internet or whatever for consoles, is NOT necessary. The console's MAIN purpose is to play games, which Xbox 360 is doing WAY MORE than that already! I can buy a good Laptop for what I need to do (Without even build it myself) for around $300-400 on Black Friday, and I can use it for 5 years! Just the need for edit graphics, edit movies, surf Internet and make music.
Consoles today are MORE than Powerful for modern games!
If I put my money on a console, I certainly do NOT care anymore for a Gaming PC NO longer!
And yes, games are usually very dumbed down for consoles.
And as for Mods, most are actually very good, adding tons of extra gameplay and options to games.
Most people say that the only way to play oblivion, is heavily modded.
I have to agree, by itself, it's a somewhat shitty game (combat system is to blame).
Like I said, I DISAGREE, I DON'T need these mods!!!
It's NOT dumbed down for me.
NO. By itself, it's NOT shitty at all!!!
NO levels, or ANY in-game stuff are in the Original Fallout/Oblivion and it's addons are left out from the console versions!!
The PC versions have NO advantage other than User Mods!
I DON'T WANT the Mods, I got 500ish hours from Oblivion(W/ ALL the addons) and about 300 as well with Fallout 3, with NO Mods! 800 hours is A LOT hours spend on just a couple games, already. Time to move on to other great games, rather than playing the SAME freaking game, with some stupid Mods.
I DON'T give a shit about Mods!!!
And again... you can get a decent computer for about $500-$800.
Biggest misconception people have about PC's is the price, if you build it yourself, you save yourself assloads of money.
It's the people who buy their computers from retailers that get fucked.
Well, I am a software person, not a Hardware person. I don't build PC myself! And DO NOT want to bother!
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Thats true. Best thing is to build it yourself and if you can't do that, I'm sure everyone knows at least one person that could help them there.
Even then, when you know where to buy your computer and don't go in shitty amateur shops asking 200$ for your 1 gb stick of ram, you can get a nice computer.
Its just that most don't even try. They just take a look at the prices for a full computer (and generally the strongest are the first one they will see), think its what you need to decently run games, see the INSANE price and say "omg, computer are overpriced!".
Its a bit annoying.
See that? How sad is it that most people think this way? Its just complete ignorance and people just go ahead and buy consoles. I just don't get it.
IF the BEST argument you can come up is, "You can Build a PC yourself for Cheap" you still FAIL!
A lot of gamers do NOT know, or want to Build a PC! Why? They are Gamers, NOT have to be PC gurus!
No, it's also not our stupidity that we can't build if we wanted, it's just that it's NOT in our blood to want to waste that time!
Consoles = GOOD enough. CHEAP enough.
PCs = What I used to play ALL the time, but now days it doesn't matter ANY longer! Mouse/Keyboard to play games NOW days seems pretty stupid to me, these days!
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Blizzard, please put back the single player offline mode!
To get back to topic relavance...a platform is a platform in my opinion. The game is still the same...though you may have a keyboard or a controller, still the same game. Blizzard placing or not placing diablo 3 in console is really up to them. They tried it a few times in the past with no success...doesnt mean it cant become a reality.
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Those before me shall quiver in my wake as I unleash the fury within!
Yes it can. Halo Wars did an excellent job with the organization of all of the different commands and selections they had during gameplay. Something like that can be implemented in the vast spells and actions of Diablo III.
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Those before me shall quiver in my wake as I unleash the fury within!
like I said earlier, the PS3 can SUPPORT ANY FULLY FEATURED KEYBOARD AND MOUSE, so all you people saying that its stupid bc it will be dumbed down for a controller are ignorant
all blizz has to do is create the control scheme for a keyboard and mouse and just put on the box "keyboard and mouse required to play" and you can find keyboard and mouse kits for like $20
I mean if I can get the same game on a system I paid $400 for compared to a $800-$1000 comp...
You can always play Diablo on console with mouse/keyboard, but at the same token you can always play in on PC with a giant monitor.
Of course I don't mind. Although it will bug me a bit, there is so little PC exclusives these days.
Although there might be the problem of community consolized. A lot of kids running around b.net, thats all we need.
But as to that, i'm not concerned. If Blizzard, by some crazy idea (or not so crazy) will port it to consoles, it will be a long time after release, just to squeeze more money.
For instance, The Witcher - great game, was a bit upset its coming to Console with some "extras", but whatever, its long time since i stopped playing anyway.
:thumbsup:
Already told you MANY MANY games that are like Diablo on on Xbox 360, PS3... Mouse NO longer matters in gaming!
But I CAN understand you are just trying to justify the expensive PC you spend on.
"Oh I spend $2000 on this PC Why the hell console gamers spend ONLY $200 and play it too with the same level o graphics?" Oh I KNOW how you feel.
Well, give it up! If Diablo 3 Makers/Blizzard wants it on Consoles, I rather they DO than listen to you guys!
Make it FAIR to every gamer, instead of satisfy one group of gamers that makes NO sense at all now days to need mouse or it can't goto a console!
Those of you say Oblivion/Fallout 3 is Dumbed down for console.
You know what?
Who cares? They are Both over 100-500 hours of gaming.
More than satisfying.
You think I care about some Mod that fanboys create for these games, that is the only thing missing from my experience?
NO!
Fallout 3/Oblivion are not that Dumbed down at all. They are JUST fine! And, so will Diablo. The Devs will NOT cut down/leave out any levels or spells, items whatever. They are just going to leave OUT the ability to Mod like Fallout/Oblivion, or maybe play on Battle.net, but which is 100% fine with me!
My MAIN priority right FIRST is to play it Single Player in the BEST Graphics possible without spend $1000+.
If I feel the MP urge is strong, I probably just buy the PC version, too and tone down the graphics all the way DOWN to play the MP!
These years, I don't think I want to spend a grand on computers!!! Economy is so BAD!!!
You can get a PC today that far outstrips consoles for about $800, probably even less.
In the console vs computer argument, computers win.
Computers can do MUCH more.
Granted, consoles are getting more features these days, but the computer still has many more options available to it.
And yes, games are usually very dumbed down for consoles.
And as for Mods, most are actually very good, adding tons of extra gameplay and options to games.
Most people say that the only way to play oblivion, is heavily modded.
I have to agree, by itself, it's a somewhat shitty game (combat system is to blame).
And again... you can get a decent computer for about $500-$800.
Biggest misconception people have about PC's is the price, if you build it yourself, you save yourself assloads of money.
It's the people who buy their computers from retailers that get fucked.
Even then, when you know where to buy your computer and don't go in shitty amateur shops asking 200$ for your 1 gb stick of ram, you can get a nice computer.
Its just that most don't even try. They just take a look at the prices for a full computer (and generally the strongest are the first one they will see), think its what you need to decently run games, see the INSANE price and say "omg, computer are overpriced!".
Its a bit annoying.
See that? How sad is it that most people think this way? Its just complete ignorance and people just go ahead and buy consoles. I just don't get it.
I really don't get it either... with a little research and work, you can get a more effective way to play games, with more options available to you.
*sigh*
Some people...
Heh, and about building your own computer, I'm in the midst of doing so right now.
Got 2 friends who are helping me out with it (since, admitedly, I'm a bit of a tard when it comes to hardware pricing).
Got a decent rig priced out at about 800 or so, just saving up right now.
It's much more comfortable to play games like Diablo with a keyboard & mouse anyway.
And ya with a bit of patience and research you can build a decent system for less than $1k.
Not by buying from any retailers, or buying a cool PC from Alienware. They are all over $800!
Again, a Computer-biased statement that makes NO sense, you are just trying to justice PC for NO good reason!
Of course it CAN do more, but most of the apps to edit graphics, edit Videos and surf the Internet or whatever for consoles, is NOT necessary. The console's MAIN purpose is to play games, which Xbox 360 is doing WAY MORE than that already! I can buy a good Laptop for what I need to do (Without even build it myself) for around $300-400 on Black Friday, and I can use it for 5 years! Just the need for edit graphics, edit movies, surf Internet and make music.
Consoles today are MORE than Powerful for modern games!
If I put my money on a console, I certainly do NOT care anymore for a Gaming PC NO longer!
Like I said, I DISAGREE, I DON'T need these mods!!!
It's NOT dumbed down for me.
NO. By itself, it's NOT shitty at all!!!
NO levels, or ANY in-game stuff are in the Original Fallout/Oblivion and it's addons are left out from the console versions!!
The PC versions have NO advantage other than User Mods!
I DON'T WANT the Mods, I got 500ish hours from Oblivion(W/ ALL the addons) and about 300 as well with Fallout 3, with NO Mods! 800 hours is A LOT hours spend on just a couple games, already. Time to move on to other great games, rather than playing the SAME freaking game, with some stupid Mods.
I DON'T give a shit about Mods!!!
Well, I am a software person, not a Hardware person. I don't build PC myself! And DO NOT want to bother!
IF the BEST argument you can come up is, "You can Build a PC yourself for Cheap" you still FAIL!
A lot of gamers do NOT know, or want to Build a PC! Why? They are Gamers, NOT have to be PC gurus!
No, it's also not our stupidity that we can't build if we wanted, it's just that it's NOT in our blood to want to waste that time!
Consoles = GOOD enough. CHEAP enough.
PCs = What I used to play ALL the time, but now days it doesn't matter ANY longer! Mouse/Keyboard to play games NOW days seems pretty stupid to me, these days!
If anyone looked at Diablo on PS2 was not successful to judge whether it will be success on these Next-Gen consoles, it's very simply FOOLISH!
Times HAVE changed. Xbox 360 is now LIGHT years ahead of Xbox Original, or PS2. So much MORE abilities/capabilities!
Look at Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Halo Wars, and ALL those RTS/RPG (These 2.5 D ones) already on Xbox 360.
It CAN be done!
Then some Combinations of LT, RT, LB, RB can make for MORE possible combinations.
Is there really a need to have more than 8 anyway, that just can be done/changed when you pause at a point, when no enemies are around.
With like Fallout 3, Oblivion, etc when you open up options to change weapons, skills and look at stats, etc the game stops and let you do that too.
I'm just gonna take this as complete stupidity on your part.
You don't need to know that yourself. There are ways to do this.
I'm not even gonna bother considering the other comments you made over PC vs consoles. This is stupid, and a stupid topic at that.
all blizz has to do is create the control scheme for a keyboard and mouse and just put on the box "keyboard and mouse required to play" and you can find keyboard and mouse kits for like $20
I mean if I can get the same game on a system I paid $400 for compared to a $800-$1000 comp...
Sounds like common sense to me
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