Given the new targeting system in D3, if the new seismic slam and D3 version of leap never change, even upon release, can anyone see a combination of the barbarian's seismic slam and leap producing the only ranged character who was designed with melee? Or would you consider that stretching the possibilities a bit too much?
I think I'm too tired but I cant understand what your trying to say, I know it's probably written up correctly, but could you simplify that for my feeble mind.
I'm not getting it either, Melee implies up close, close quarters combat. Ranged inplies hanging back and shooting. They are two different things.
The fact the Barb has a way to quickly reach a target some distance away doesn't make him ranged, evne if you combine it with a skill.
I don't get what the point the OP is making, How can you been ranged and melee at the same time? either you are one or the other, you might use both but not at the same time. An archer can't shot an arrow at the same time he swings a sword.
I get that leap gives him the ability to somewhat attack from a distance, in a sense that he was there and now he is here, but he is still attacking with melee weapons, in essence it's no different if you made him run there, or used a skill like "charge" to move a great distance quickly.
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I completely forgot about that! Which reminds me even used to have a throw-barb lol, he didn't succeed quite as much as the others though, but was truly fun to pvp with..
Something about how leap (or leap Attack) makes the Barbarian ranged. Despite the fact he still has to hit his target with an axe, or whatever Melee weapon he is holding. Which clearly contradicts being ranged.
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Maybe you can only be decent if you develop one of these attacks. Like if you focus on making your leap attack strong, then perhaps you cannot be as powerful of a traditional melee warrior. Does that make sense at all?
so .. you can focus on the "leap" tree lol.. and make a "Leapbarian"
who knows what the trees will be, just joking (in case some one asks "theres a leap tree?")
I guess right, didnt paladin and barbarian have throw for javalins? thats ranged if you ask me
All classes had throw, the barbarian was luck enough to have double throw.
ANd the Paladin hand a multitude of ranged spells. Fist of the Heavens, Holy Bolt, Blessed Hammer and the auras that weakened enemies from a distance
I think what he's asking is.. "will there be another mellee class with ranged attacks"?
I still do not think Leap Attack makes the barbarian ranged. If you study leap Attack closely, he hits them with he melee weapon. THe leaping part just makes him move distances quicker. And if it's just Leap not leap attack, all that does is stun them, no damage, the damge is done by the weapon he holds.
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I know that. But I don't really see that as ranged.
It's like the Paladin using charge to run in and out. I don't consider than ranged.
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I do not mean an unnatural calmness.
The fact the Barb has a way to quickly reach a target some distance away doesn't make him ranged, evne if you combine it with a skill.
I don't get what the point the OP is making, How can you been ranged and melee at the same time? either you are one or the other, you might use both but not at the same time. An archer can't shot an arrow at the same time he swings a sword.
I get that leap gives him the ability to somewhat attack from a distance, in a sense that he was there and now he is here, but he is still attacking with melee weapons, in essence it's no different if you made him run there, or used a skill like "charge" to move a great distance quickly.
Maybe they'll have another class, like a paladin-like with charge? who knows
Well if there's going to be another class paladin-like with charge then it would overlap and the uniqueness of each class will be gone
Blizzard please read the above which i fully agreed with
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
See what playing warrior in WOW has done to me?!?
Barbarian in D3 having ranged due to his "seismic slam" and "leap"
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
so .. you can focus on the "leap" tree lol.. and make a "Leapbarian"
who knows what the trees will be, just joking (in case some one asks "theres a leap tree?")
The term you are thinking of is Dragoon. It is a build based around the use of Leap Attack
http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/file/370600/38576
All classes had throw, the barbarian was luck enough to have double throw.
ANd the Paladin hand a multitude of ranged spells. Fist of the Heavens, Holy Bolt, Blessed Hammer and the auras that weakened enemies from a distance
I still do not think Leap Attack makes the barbarian ranged. If you study leap Attack closely, he hits them with he melee weapon. THe leaping part just makes him move distances quicker. And if it's just Leap not leap attack, all that does is stun them, no damage, the damge is done by the weapon he holds.
It's like the Paladin using charge to run in and out. I don't consider than ranged.