these are just some things i noticed while killing sk with every class, i havent hit 13 with everyone yet, probably won't get to before open beta ends, but thats ok im just happy to have played it.
1- FPS is shit.
i am aware its an unoptimised beta, so i'm hoping the retail adds at least 10fps or more to what i'm currently getting. i just dont see how my laptop (which runs mass effect 2 on medium ish settings fine, and WoW on ulta at 60fps) cant handle the beta AT ALL on minimum settings, i couldnt get to town, the 5fps was just too bad. I had to buy windows 7 and upgrade my XP desktop just for the open beta, and even on that computer i only get maybe 20 fps at best, much worse in large fights (running nvidia 560 SE, 3.5gb useable ram, 32bit windows 7, 2.6ghz dual core). i am holding out on upgrading my tower until the retail copy comes out and i can do some proper testing, but i was expecting a little smoother fps. we shall see.
2-Playing is not watching.
having watched many many youtube videos of beta, various patches etc, i can safely say that until you play the game, you shouldn't bitch about certain game mechanics. Like stat allocation for one, i did not even think about stat allocation while playing, i was too busy HAVING FUN. everything from the ui to the skill distribution seems very nice, and makes the game very easy on the eyes. I can't really explain what i mean very well lol, but i'll just say that those of you who might be boycotting the game for whatever reason, (ITS NOT DIABLO 2, OMG ITS LIKE WoW, BLIZZ RUINED THE FRANCHISE, whatever the fuck else), try the game first, you will be surprised how amazing it is.
3- no idea which class i'm going to play
every class has a unique feel, all feeling super powerful with their own strengths and weaknesses and quirks. I played every class to at least lvl 8, and i still havent decided who i will play at retail, its just too hard lol. leaning towards WD or barb or DH, but thats still 3 to choose from..
4- items are perfect.
from the amount that drop, to the stats on them, the look, i love it all. couldnt be happier with itemisation, can't wait to see what its like late game.
5-graphics/tone/theme
the feeling of the game is awesome, its gory, its dark, but its colourful in the right ways, its got fog, but its not silent hill, its got explosions but rather than fire its energy and gore. everything is just awesome.
d3 feels like the evolution of d2, rather than a carbon copy sequel (think CoD). the things they changed i think they changed for the better. if i have one complaint, or thing that i would change, and its only small, is that the skill ui is trash lol. i remember seeing a thread semi-recently where somebody threw up a mock screenshot of what the skill ui could look like, with a spellbook style tab on the left half of the screen, and a list showing every skill all on one screen, and an extendable tab with runes next to it. it looked sexy, and much better than the current ui which fills up the whole screen for no reason. Yeah they didnt want people running around with the skill tab open, but there are plenty of other ways around that. I hope they change it up before or shortly after release, but even if they don't, meh, your only in the menu for a few seconds at a time.
no idea if anyone bothered to read this, i just thought i was post my thoughts to contribute.
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Have to agree here with OP about the feeling of the game.. Before I tried beta I was like.. Well I can wait for release.. After beta.. GIVE ME THE DAMN GAME ALREADY besides that.. the game gives the exact same feeling as D2 did back then.. and I think (this is my own oppion) the changes from d2 -> d3 is for the better in any way possible.
+2 on those things. except number 1. Im getting 120+ FPS,
Have you updated your Direct X or graphics drivers? That sounds like an odd problem.
i mentioned i bought windows 7, i did a fresh install of that before installing the beta, first thing i did was grab the latest drivers (even mentions diablo3 in the info for the drivers), and i beleive directx11 comes preinstalled with win7, but to be sure i did google directx and downloaded the launcher/downloader thing, along with the other stuff i always download after a format (utorrent, winrar etc). so i am fairly certain the comp is as prepared as it can be for d3.
Lol it's not crazy dat ur FPS sucks in the beta.
You realize that it's a beta without any optimization.
But did you also know you'll atleast need a 2.8ghz dual core to run diablo properly?
So yeah ur stats are a bit on the low side.
And i can run arround the beta with 60/100/120 fps no lag or anything.
So it's not totally the beta's fault
its impossible to tell *exactly* what you need to run the game well, its not like anything under 2.8ghz is fail, what if i had a crazy good video card and 1600+fsb RAM, that would help out. but i do realise the cpu is fairly old, however i don't think thats whats bottlenecking my fps, because the fps drops are consistently when video /particle effects fill the screen. I have read plenty of threads where people are saying they are getting 100+fps on systems not too disimilar from mine, which is annoying lol. also, i did mention in my post that i understand the problem with the beta being unoptimised, or perhaps you were quoting what i said. anyway, i will still wait and see, i don't want to have to buy a new cpu if i dont absolutely have to, shits expensive man. also, in my experience, buying something new for my pc leads to buying 3 other new things just to get that 1 thing running -.-
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But what kind of dual core ?
All dual core aren't the same. Core I3 are MUCH more powerfull than core 2 duo even though the number of Mhz is smaller (a core i3 2.5ghz >>>>>> core 2 duo E8500 3+ ghz).
And if it's an AMD platform it's worse, AMD CPU's are one generation behind Intel...
And in case you're wondering, everything rendered on screen is processed too by the main CPU, I think you're CPU limited because I have the same GC as you with a core i3 3ghz and it runs smoothly with everything at max :/
But what kind of dual core ?
All dual core aren't the same. Core I3 are MUCH more powerfull than core 2 duo even though the number of Mhz is smaller (a core i3 2.5ghz >>>>>> core 2 duo E8500 3+ ghz).
And if it's an AMD platform it's worse, AMD CPU's are one generation behind Intel...
i didn't know that an i3 was still a dual core honestly, i have a e6600 core 2 duo 2.6ghz , i could overclock it to 3ghz which i have done before but i think i turned it back because of overheating. i sort of know that intel>amd in raw power and efficiency, while a lot of people talk up AMD saying its great value for money, or whatever, i generally just go by benchmarks on tomshardware or hardwarekanuks for that stuff. i feel no shame for my old cpu, it has gotten me by xD
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Yeah very smooth FPS for me except for the one instance right before the SK when the 4 pillars are summoning skellies. That part slows to a crawl for me every time. Not sure if it's PC FPS or server lag, but there's a lot going on.
I loved the beta so far too. I was so happy to seen mangled corpses stuck on the wall like the previous two games. I really never understood the "its not dark enough' crowd.
I do have 3 favorite classes though, DH, Wiz, and Barb.
Yeah very smooth FPS for me except for the one instance right before the SK when the 4 pillars are summoning skellies. That part slows to a crawl for me every time. Not sure if it's PC FPS or server lag, but there's a lot going on.
fps is solely reliant on your pc, if it was lag you would have the stuff like rubber banding, standing still while trying to run, etc
I ran the beta with outdated drivers (I got a screen saying my drivers were outdated - Geforce 8800 GT) and a E6500 duo @ 3Ghz. Although I was scared for performance issues, the game ran as smooth as a baby behind on its first day.... I did set the physics on low, but thats all. I did not have a single stutter, freez or glitch and that is very rare, more so with an unoptimized beta! I am extremely in awe with blizzard atm....
i also got this message when i tried to install the beta on XP, thats why i had to change to windows 7, then i didnt get the message. interesting that regardless of drivers people are having different results. also, the 8800 is a fairly old card at this point (although it has always kicked ass, played crysis on max at release iirc), while the 560 i have i only bought a few months ago. i highly doubt the difference in fps between my game and yours is due to the difference between 2.6ghz and 3ghz, so im at a loss maybe its my hard drive dying or something. it does make loud scratching noises, which can probably be interpreted as writing on the wall.. but i dont know how that would affect fps
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I had my laptop hard drive replaced a couple of weeks ago and the sales person told me clicking and scratching sounds
are the primary indicator for a dying or dead hard drive So that may well be your performance problem...
hmm not good news lol i better look into that then soon. at least theres nothing important on that drive, i have windows installed on a seperate one. im fairly sure i know which drive it is.
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Also, one other thing I learned from beta, we won't get all the lore in one pass. This changed my approach at launch. I'm gonna rush to 60 instead of soaking it all in. I can get the lore on the many many many many many many times I replay the game.
I had the same issues OP im thinking of shelling out a G for a good desk top pc, or buying a graphics card, but I don't want to buy the graphics card and realize my laptop has other issues. I agree on 2, 3, and 5 100%. I don't know if you got to play with friends or a group, but It was a fucking blast. Everyone got so into it and while it was easy as shit when we faught skelly king for the first time the barb in our group got WW'd and his health dropped below half for the first time and we took the fight seriously by yelling at each other and using some sloppy tactics. While there won't be a tank, a support, a dps character everyone will have multiple roles even in the first 13 levels that was evident. Also im going DH rapid fire was awesome, so was vault I can't wait to spray the field with multi.
Sounds like the fps is due to specific hardware. I can only think that it was due to that particular Nvidia card. I run a fairly outdated Radeon 5770 and hit 60fps. I can't even hit 60 fps on WOW ultra without turning the shadows off.
Consider sending a mail to blizzard bug reports. They might have use for this information though I would suspect that they would likely have already received that report. Perhaps beta is just unoptimized?
Any of us running that laptop? Similar problems?
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1- FPS is shit.
i am aware its an unoptimised beta, so i'm hoping the retail adds at least 10fps or more to what i'm currently getting. i just dont see how my laptop (which runs mass effect 2 on medium ish settings fine, and WoW on ulta at 60fps) cant handle the beta AT ALL on minimum settings, i couldnt get to town, the 5fps was just too bad. I had to buy windows 7 and upgrade my XP desktop just for the open beta, and even on that computer i only get maybe 20 fps at best, much worse in large fights (running nvidia 560 SE, 3.5gb useable ram, 32bit windows 7, 2.6ghz dual core). i am holding out on upgrading my tower until the retail copy comes out and i can do some proper testing, but i was expecting a little smoother fps. we shall see.
2-Playing is not watching.
having watched many many youtube videos of beta, various patches etc, i can safely say that until you play the game, you shouldn't bitch about certain game mechanics. Like stat allocation for one, i did not even think about stat allocation while playing, i was too busy HAVING FUN. everything from the ui to the skill distribution seems very nice, and makes the game very easy on the eyes. I can't really explain what i mean very well lol, but i'll just say that those of you who might be boycotting the game for whatever reason, (ITS NOT DIABLO 2, OMG ITS LIKE WoW, BLIZZ RUINED THE FRANCHISE, whatever the fuck else), try the game first, you will be surprised how amazing it is.
3- no idea which class i'm going to play
every class has a unique feel, all feeling super powerful with their own strengths and weaknesses and quirks. I played every class to at least lvl 8, and i still havent decided who i will play at retail, its just too hard lol. leaning towards WD or barb or DH, but thats still 3 to choose from..
4- items are perfect.
from the amount that drop, to the stats on them, the look, i love it all. couldnt be happier with itemisation, can't wait to see what its like late game.
5-graphics/tone/theme
the feeling of the game is awesome, its gory, its dark, but its colourful in the right ways, its got fog, but its not silent hill, its got explosions but rather than fire its energy and gore. everything is just awesome.
d3 feels like the evolution of d2, rather than a carbon copy sequel (think CoD). the things they changed i think they changed for the better. if i have one complaint, or thing that i would change, and its only small, is that the skill ui is trash lol. i remember seeing a thread semi-recently where somebody threw up a mock screenshot of what the skill ui could look like, with a spellbook style tab on the left half of the screen, and a list showing every skill all on one screen, and an extendable tab with runes next to it. it looked sexy, and much better than the current ui which fills up the whole screen for no reason. Yeah they didnt want people running around with the skill tab open, but there are plenty of other ways around that. I hope they change it up before or shortly after release, but even if they don't, meh, your only in the menu for a few seconds at a time.
no idea if anyone bothered to read this, i just thought i was post my thoughts to contribute.
/end horrible wall of text.
Have you updated your Direct X or graphics drivers? That sounds like an odd problem.
Have a nice day.
i mentioned i bought windows 7, i did a fresh install of that before installing the beta, first thing i did was grab the latest drivers (even mentions diablo3 in the info for the drivers), and i beleive directx11 comes preinstalled with win7, but to be sure i did google directx and downloaded the launcher/downloader thing, along with the other stuff i always download after a format (utorrent, winrar etc). so i am fairly certain the comp is as prepared as it can be for d3.
its impossible to tell *exactly* what you need to run the game well, its not like anything under 2.8ghz is fail, what if i had a crazy good video card and 1600+fsb RAM, that would help out. but i do realise the cpu is fairly old, however i don't think thats whats bottlenecking my fps, because the fps drops are consistently when video /particle effects fill the screen. I have read plenty of threads where people are saying they are getting 100+fps on systems not too disimilar from mine, which is annoying lol. also, i did mention in my post that i understand the problem with the beta being unoptimised, or perhaps you were quoting what i said. anyway, i will still wait and see, i don't want to have to buy a new cpu if i dont absolutely have to, shits expensive man. also, in my experience, buying something new for my pc leads to buying 3 other new things just to get that 1 thing running -.-
All dual core aren't the same. Core I3 are MUCH more powerfull than core 2 duo even though the number of Mhz is smaller (a core i3 2.5ghz >>>>>> core 2 duo E8500 3+ ghz).
And if it's an AMD platform it's worse, AMD CPU's are one generation behind Intel...
And in case you're wondering, everything rendered on screen is processed too by the main CPU, I think you're CPU limited because I have the same GC as you with a core i3 3ghz and it runs smoothly with everything at max :/
i didn't know that an i3 was still a dual core honestly, i have a e6600 core 2 duo 2.6ghz , i could overclock it to 3ghz which i have done before but i think i turned it back because of overheating. i sort of know that intel>amd in raw power and efficiency, while a lot of people talk up AMD saying its great value for money, or whatever, i generally just go by benchmarks on tomshardware or hardwarekanuks for that stuff. i feel no shame for my old cpu, it has gotten me by xD
I do have 3 favorite classes though, DH, Wiz, and Barb.
fps is solely reliant on your pc, if it was lag you would have the stuff like rubber banding, standing still while trying to run, etc
i also got this message when i tried to install the beta on XP, thats why i had to change to windows 7, then i didnt get the message. interesting that regardless of drivers people are having different results. also, the 8800 is a fairly old card at this point (although it has always kicked ass, played crysis on max at release iirc), while the 560 i have i only bought a few months ago. i highly doubt the difference in fps between my game and yours is due to the difference between 2.6ghz and 3ghz, so im at a loss maybe its my hard drive dying or something. it does make loud scratching noises, which can probably be interpreted as writing on the wall.. but i dont know how that would affect fps
hmm not good news lol i better look into that then soon. at least theres nothing important on that drive, i have windows installed on a seperate one. im fairly sure i know which drive it is.
Consider sending a mail to blizzard bug reports. They might have use for this information though I would suspect that they would likely have already received that report. Perhaps beta is just unoptimized?
Any of us running that laptop? Similar problems?