All my curently gear is ancients, but With the new Karle point I needed a new one to start cubeing. ( logic ? ) it turned out to be ancients 2 times. but the rolls were so bad that I wouldnt use it. !
On average. one in ten items is ancient, so when using 3105 bounty mats for re-rolling you should've gotten (on average) 62.1 ancients. If what you say is true you're really really unlucky. Is it impossible though? No. We don't know the exact primal droprate but it's probably something like one in 200 or 250, so not getting a primal is also slightly unlucky but not at all impossible; out of 20 people who spend 3k bounty mats one is expected to not get a primal. So you were just the unlucky 20th person here. Not unreasonable at all.
Regarding ancient droprates we could speculate if they're higher or lower this patch; I have my own opinion here but to be honest, this belongs into the RNG thread. I'll be monitoring this thread here but for now it looks like there's not much constructive talk going on.
In an attempt to be constructive, I have to say, using bounty mats to re-roll a Karlei's Point is... the worst possible use of bounty mats. Karlei's Point is an exceptional item for one specific reason: it's by far the easiest item to acquire through the "upgrade rare" recipe as there's only two daggers a DH can get. As bounty mats are far more precious (at least to me) than "normal" mats, I would use the upgrade rare recipe in an attempt to get a better Karlei's Point. I know there's no mathematical equation for which is better; it depends on what you have available. But that's my suggestion for anyone trying to get a better dagger.
But at the end of the day it's all RNG and there's NEVER a guarantee to get any item.
Apparently the datamined primal droprate is something like 0.3% instead of the 1% Bliz stated. The ancient droprate worked out to basically 10% as promised
Apparently the datamined primal droprate is something like 0.3% instead of the 1% Bliz stated. The ancient droprate worked out to basically 10% as promised
The 1% droprate never went to live, it was only 1% in the very beginning of the PTR when ancients were introduced. Some people kept track over hundreds of drops (there were spreadsheets shared a while ago on Reddit) from which we believe it to be something between 0.2% and 0.4%, though it seemed to have converged towards 0.2%-0.25%. Do you have a source for the .3% datamine? That'd be interesting.
The 1% droprate never went to live, it was only 1% in the very beginning of the PTR when ancients were introduced. Some people kept track over hundreds of drops (there were spreadsheets shared a while ago on Reddit) from which we believe it to be something between 0.2% and 0.4%, though it seemed to have converged towards 0.2%-0.25%. Do you have a source for the .3% datamine? That'd be interesting.
I believe the 1% drop rate might have been for the original version of them. 10% chance for an ancient (10% chance) to roll primal. But that was when they weren't perfectly rolled ancient items, but rather were an item that could roll EVEN HIGHER stats than a regular ancient. Basically, primal ancients were originally meant to be to ancients as ancients were to regular legendary items when they were first introduced. Their worst stats would be better than an ancients best stats.
They probably nerfed the drop rates as they no longer became necessary.
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I just spend 3105 bounty mats to get a full primal dh, and I just got 0 Primals and I did only get 2 ancients gear !
- I think that this is bullshit. To spend so much and not even get a primal...
- How are you guys droprates ?
I have 3 clan mates in game at the same time, and we did talk and video sharing !
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All my curently gear is ancients, but With the new Karle point I needed a new one to start cubeing. ( logic ? ) it turned out to be ancients 2 times. but the rolls were so bad that I wouldnt use it. !
On average. one in ten items is ancient, so when using 3105 bounty mats for re-rolling you should've gotten (on average) 62.1 ancients. If what you say is true you're really really unlucky. Is it impossible though? No. We don't know the exact primal droprate but it's probably something like one in 200 or 250, so not getting a primal is also slightly unlucky but not at all impossible; out of 20 people who spend 3k bounty mats one is expected to not get a primal. So you were just the unlucky 20th person here. Not unreasonable at all.
Regarding ancient droprates we could speculate if they're higher or lower this patch; I have my own opinion here but to be honest, this belongs into the RNG thread. I'll be monitoring this thread here but for now it looks like there's not much constructive talk going on.
In an attempt to be constructive, I have to say, using bounty mats to re-roll a Karlei's Point is... the worst possible use of bounty mats. Karlei's Point is an exceptional item for one specific reason: it's by far the easiest item to acquire through the "upgrade rare" recipe as there's only two daggers a DH can get. As bounty mats are far more precious (at least to me) than "normal" mats, I would use the upgrade rare recipe in an attempt to get a better Karlei's Point. I know there's no mathematical equation for which is better; it depends on what you have available. But that's my suggestion for anyone trying to get a better dagger.
But at the end of the day it's all RNG and there's NEVER a guarantee to get any item.
Apparently the datamined primal droprate is something like 0.3% instead of the 1% Bliz stated. The ancient droprate worked out to basically 10% as promised
I used up 200 bounty mats trying to get an ancient Yang's this patch, no luck. Might be they lowered chance to get ancient with bounty mat rerolls?
Converting from yellows still gives like same amount of ancients in average though, like before.
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They probably nerfed the drop rates as they no longer became necessary.