2 brothers just dinged 70 and want to play wizards...
I figure I'd run a wizard with them on T5 and just give em gear...so like carry 2 ppl through t5.
I don't have a real issue doing it with any class except for wizard and monk (lol...monk..).....
I just find they have a lot of health so standing there and casting becomes a real issue.
I tried an arcane torrent spec and that didn't work out....link
tried a fire hydra mm conflag with a 2k serpent sparker.....didnt work out...link
should I just go back to my normal mmconflag build and give that a go?
just take the thunderfury and put it on my hydra build and stick blackhole spellsteal...
any advice on another good build to carry would be much appreciated! thanks!
Have you tried an Archon spec with Vyr's set? Having all three of you run archon will also help with their survivability (even if it is on a cooldown). I would try that and have them load up with a lot off CC skils. Lots of slows, stuns, and pulls to keep the mobs off them while you melt them with the beam.
Have you tried an Archon spec with Vyr's set? Having all three of you run archon will also help with their survivability (even if it is on a cooldown). I would try that and have them load up with a lot off CC skils. Lots of slows, stuns, and pulls to keep the mobs off them while you melt them with the beam.
I was kinda trying that withthe arcane torrent spec, but was getting faceraeped pretty hard. Maybe a different setup with archon could work.
Well the class can help others kill but without really good gear you are not going to carry two new characters. At least from the way you worded it I assumed we're talking about two people that just started playing and have zero paragon or really low paragon and no good gear.
So yeah drop it to T4 and try again.
Carrying people as a Wizard pretty much means that you need to do all the CC, all the tanking and all the damages... I have decent gear on my Wizard (including a WoW) and carrying two other level 70 is a pain in the ass... Comes 2.1, it will be easier with the Firebird's upgrade, but until then, the only solution is to lower the difficulty...<_<
if you cant comfortably clear T5 with only 2 extra people, it clearly suggest you are aiming too high. Heck, I can clear T6 (and level 30ish GR) with 3 sitting their butts in town.
Change to T1 (Personally, I would say Hard mode but then people would just think I am trolling), tell the lazies to gear up a bit and at least to help with the CC so you can dps.
Carrying people as a Wizard pretty much means that you need to do all the CC, all the tanking and all the damages... I have decent gear on my Wizard (including a WoW) and carrying two other level 70 is a pain in the ass... Comes 2.1, it will be easier with the Firebird's upgrade, but until then, the only solution is to lower the difficulty...<_<
Thats a little sad to hear that even with a WoW. Well I suppose if I were a pro maybe it would be possible to like carry but I ain't no wizard pro lol.....cause gear isn't an issue...I'm at the point where I have like triplets of everything for every class except like SMK or WoW.
I guess I'll just run with them with my WD at least they can get some int gear from my drops......and if wow drops for them.........f em lol and curse that rng ahole
if you cant comfortably clear T5 with only 2 extra people, it clearly suggest you are aiming too high. Heck, I can clear T6 (and level 30ish GR) with 3 sitting their butts in town.
Change to T1 (Personally, I would say Hard mode but then people would just think I am trolling), tell the lazies to gear up a bit and at least to help with the CC so you can dps.
if you cant comfortably clear T5 with only 2 extra people, it clearly suggest you are aiming too high. Heck, I can clear T6 (and level 30ish GR) with 3 sitting their butts in town.
Change to T1 (Personally, I would say Hard mode but then people would just think I am trolling), tell the lazies to gear up a bit and at least to help with the CC so you can dps.
Do you mind sharing your profile? I would love to try the spec out. As of now with what I'm doing I'm unable to do it on my wizard so I'm looking for suggestions on builds that can.
carrying 2 ppl on my other classes? no problem except for monks and wizards atm for me.....so I would love to hear any suggestions
I wouldn't know if this would help, but I can do T5 with a Cold Build but it takes a little longer. It's about keeping everything clumped up and cc-ing them permanently.
You're going to need a high paragon, top end, fine tuned, maximized wizard to do any sort of carrying in high Torment levels. Wizards are just not that cut out for sustained high burst damage throughout a given farming session. You either do less sustained damage over time (much longer kill times) or burst quickly (but with limitations like cooldown or EHP issues). Wizards really shine in low to mid Torment levels right now.
If someone wants to quickly gear up a wizard, it's easy to run a more cookie-cutter high DPS character like Pet/Jade doctor, shotgun crusader or Marauder DH and gamble the Blood Shards on a wizard. Otherwise, it'll take patience and a lot of hard work and time invested.
May be a different story in Patch 2.1, so time will tell.
2 brothers just dinged 70 and want to play wizards...
I figure I'd run a wizard with them on T5 and just give em gear...so like carry 2 ppl through t5.
I don't have a real issue doing it with any class except for wizard and monk (lol...monk..).....
I just find they have a lot of health so standing there and casting becomes a real issue.
I tried an arcane torrent spec and that didn't work out....link
tried a fire hydra mm conflag with a 2k serpent sparker.....didnt work out...link
should I just go back to my normal mmconflag build and give that a go?
just take the thunderfury and put it on my hydra build and stick blackhole spellsteal...
any advice on another good build to carry would be much appreciated! thanks!
So yeah drop it to T4 and try again.
Change to T1 (Personally, I would say Hard mode but then people would just think I am trolling), tell the lazies to gear up a bit and at least to help with the CC so you can dps.
I guess I'll just run with them with my WD at least they can get some int gear from my drops......and if wow drops for them.........f em lol and curse that rng ahole
The season is underway. Don't know if I'll make it through.
Akarat save me !
carrying 2 ppl on my other classes? no problem except for monks and wizards atm for me.....so I would love to hear any suggestions
not my fault... i clicked it from the main page and always forget it is not a general forum.
ill shut up now about the clearing t6 part.
however, as mentioned before, as a wizard you would be doing tanking, dps, and cc... perhaps you can get away with T4 if the other 2 handle the cc.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Jcneon-1217/hero/7727325
you could check the build here, it still needs a few min/max and tweaking in the gear.
I'm guessing if your 2 new wiz friends can do a little more dps u could carry them.
You're going to need a high paragon, top end, fine tuned, maximized wizard to do any sort of carrying in high Torment levels. Wizards are just not that cut out for sustained high burst damage throughout a given farming session. You either do less sustained damage over time (much longer kill times) or burst quickly (but with limitations like cooldown or EHP issues). Wizards really shine in low to mid Torment levels right now.
If someone wants to quickly gear up a wizard, it's easy to run a more cookie-cutter high DPS character like Pet/Jade doctor, shotgun crusader or Marauder DH and gamble the Blood Shards on a wizard. Otherwise, it'll take patience and a lot of hard work and time invested.
May be a different story in Patch 2.1, so time will tell.
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