The Ninja Wizard Build Revisited

  • #1
    Here's a new video I made featuring the Ninja Wizard build, featuring artwork by Diablofans user laccer:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2Rz3eFycavk

    Bear in mind that the build isn't meant to be efficient, but it does work.

    The original video was done several months ago when my second wizard was just paragon 5. With some gear tweaks and now at paragon 100, the build is capable of handling MP10.

    d3up profile
    Skill selection

    As with the original ninja wizard, the build basically works by having just enough mitigation and HP to stay alive, but proc Illusionist and Force Armor enough to let you spam Teleport and Mirror Image. Dexterity is mostly a stat included to match the "ninja" theme, but it does help in nullifying incoming damage enough for you to leech back life and/or reposition.

    No Critical Mass. No Diamond Skin. No Frost Nova. No Archon.

    Can't wait to try this in the expansion!
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  • #2
    I actually just gave it a shot. love the playstyle aesthetically, but... well... ^^

    also I just checked your profile and was shocked. way too many wasted rolls on your gloves, shoulders and WH, you really should upgrade.
  • #3
    Why do you have Conflagration and Cold Blooded in your passive skill selection?
    Pietrak#2537 - changed my battle.tag just for you ;P
  • #4
    Quote from ffs9

    also I just checked your profile and was shocked. way too many wasted rolls on your gloves, shoulders and WH, you really should upgrade.


    Not sure what you're talking about. Read: I already made my point about stacking dexterity for evasion. And not quite sure what you mean by strength and armor being wasted rolls. They're there for a reason. 1. The build is designed to reflect a ninja, thus it requires mobility and evasion. 2. The build actually doesn't function as well without the evasion as you'll be taking too many attacks in the face; too many to allow you room/time to maneuver. 3. Already stated that this build isn't designed to be efficient.

    Quote from Pietrak

    Why do you have Conflagration and Cold Blooded in your passive skill selection?


    Spectral Blades is the only non-elemental wizard spell, thus it takes on elemental effects from gear. I have cold bonus on my Tal Rasha's Allegiance and fire bonus on my Triumvirate.
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  • #5
    I meant your main character. and no I wasn't serious :)
  • #6
    Great video, Jaetch, and congrats on making her MP10-viable!

    However, your gear really underlines D3's downfall: here you have an interesting character build (theme-wise, at least), that deviates from the norm, and what do you see? Basically the same gear you see everywhere else: Tal's amulet, Trium, black weapon, Lacuni's, Vile Ward, Witching Hour......sigh.

    Sorry for bringing down the tone of the thread. Carry on.
  • #7
    Quote from maka

    Great video, Jaetch, and congrats on making her MP10-viable!

    However, your gear really underlines D3's downfall: here you have an interesting character build (theme-wise, at least), that deviates from the norm, and what do you see? Basically the same gear you see everywhere else: Tal's amulet, Trium, black weapon, Lacuni's, Vile Ward, Witching Hour......sigh.

    Sorry for bringing down the tone of the thread. Carry on.


    At least I have Blackthorne's and hooker boots! ... :ph34r:
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  • #8
    Quote from Jaetch
    At least I have Blackthorne's and hooker boots! ... :ph34r:

    C'mon, they're not hooker boots. :) They're stylish!
  • #9
    This looks like a lot of fun. It looks tactical and intriguing, instead of just the mindlessness of all the main builds we have currently. I hope and can't wait until builds like this are the playstyles inherited in the expansion.
  • #10
    Dear Awesome Jaetch,

    I remember making my wizard wear a rare chest that went all the way to 800 total armor defense with 1 open socket, as well as 1 rare amulet that had an open socket. Both of these sockets, I used a star or higher green gem at the time, to boost my dodge chance % all the way to 33.4%.

    My oldest theory that I put into either Critical Hit Chance theories, or Block Chance, or even Dodge Chance (as your video and caption mentioned about Dodge as being vital. I always told my friends or suggested about the total chance of "1 in 5 (20%), 1 in 4 (25%), 1 in 3 (33.5% to 35%), 1 in 2 (50%) for virtually any class... of course one could always end up between 39.5 to 45% and still do just fine comparing to actually hitting exactly 50%.

    Anyhow, I really enjoy your emphasis on dodge for Wizard as I did use Dodge Chance as one build long time ago, like a 50k HP with 33.4% dodge chance, of course I never went into such detail of SKILLS, I thoroughly enjoy your awesome creativity and guidance every time I see your name.

    We will definitely soon see this in action more and more. I have always loved dodge chance as an "extra pool" when I had used Crystal Shell, not only was I already spamming that ability, I am mitigating with the dodge chance, almost doubling its effect (not that the math sounded anything correct) but it just made my wizard seemed awesome especially for Stonefort and Fields of Slaughter at the time.

    Let's keep our Wizard strength going! Cheers!



    EDIT

    Current Main:

    US WiZ (PL 90) CM

    Strength: 322
    Dexterity: 675 (23.5% chance)
    Intelligence: 2951
    Vitality: 1034

    +471 Resistance to All Elements
    Armor Rating: 4030 (with Enchantress' Armor Buff, and AFTER Glass Cannon activated)
    DPS (with GC): 279790

    I, too have an emphasis on having close to 25% dodge chance.
    Foundation (Start-to-Mid tier) Gearchecker; [US] unless stated
    1) CMWIZ PL91, [EU]PL62 Crit NatsHelm; 2) 0-CD Dogs since MID-FEB 2013 PL44;
    3) "Stunball Barrage" (Tball+F@W) Vengeance DH PL43 (1slot for H.Globe + PUR slot);
    4) Lazy-Dbl-LS Monk PL48
    5) Fundamental Barb (least played)
  • #11
    Quote from maka

    Great video, Jaetch, and congrats on making her MP10-viable!

    However, your gear really underlines D3's downfall: here you have an interesting character build (theme-wise, at least), that deviates from the norm, and what do you see? Basically the same gear you see everywhere else: Tal's amulet, Trium, black weapon, Lacuni's, Vile Ward, Witching Hour......sigh.

    Sorry for bringing down the tone of the thread. Carry on.


    I agree. What build *isn't* viable at mp10 with absolute top of the line gear and paragon 100? But I'm glad it's not another CM/Archon build and look forward to RoS shaking up builds.
  • #12
    Jaetch: ".... Illusionist and Force Armor enough to let you spam Teleport and Mirror Image"

    I've always fancied the Mocking Demise rune, however its shifting can either cause trouble or save oneself.

    As far as this goes, I believe truly in Life Regeneration, I was a big fan of that, I remember Week 4 I played Witch Doctor with 2.4k Life Regen AND 9.3k Thorns while using a Passive (that I will mention therebelow) and I cannot wait to see how we can gear Life Regeneration (I really dont mind having an entirely different emphasis in gear, as I believe that when one uses a Passive, it should be a "Gear-oriented motivation".

    What do I mean by that?

    i) It's like "One with Everything"

    ii) It's like "Vengeance"

    iii) It's like "Critical Mass", we take into account as much as we can, the critical hit chance (chc), gradually increasing it to better our "CM rotational skills".

    iv) Fierce Loyalty ... (Audience goes: What is this?) This is one of the listed Witch Doctor skills that we end up rather abandoning because "Life Regeneration and Thorns" turns out to be among two of four statlines/properties "put off to the bottom of the pile", that "seemingly" or "rather in actuality" affecting our gear to be "Sheet-DPS oriented" (aka "It's all about the numbers, unbuffed or buffed).


    Here's what I like about where this video or the direction in which OP Jaetch is taking us, I await for more awesome shows regarding this build.
    Foundation (Start-to-Mid tier) Gearchecker; [US] unless stated
    1) CMWIZ PL91, [EU]PL62 Crit NatsHelm; 2) 0-CD Dogs since MID-FEB 2013 PL44;
    3) "Stunball Barrage" (Tball+F@W) Vengeance DH PL43 (1slot for H.Globe + PUR slot);
    4) Lazy-Dbl-LS Monk PL48
    5) Fundamental Barb (least played)
  • #13
    Quote from Jaetch
    hooker boots! ... :ph34r:



    I LOL'ed :D
  • #14
    Str/Int, Dex/Int, str/dex properties have been removed as affixes in RoS. Builds like this, heavily dependent of having dex, will probably disappear.

    http://us.battle.net...40205?page=2#25
  • #15
    Quote from Venaliter

    Str/Int, Dex/Int, str/dex properties have been removed as affixes in RoS. Builds like this, heavily dependent of having dex, will probably disappear.

    http://us.battle.net...40205?page=2#25

    Don't forget paragon points :) You can go dexterity rather than intelligence for the primary category or just focus on stacking evasion in the defensive category.
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  • #16
    Also, I think there's nothing preventing us from getting another item with massive Dex gain once you're at a certain Int level.

    Sacrificing 600-700 Int might sound like a lot, but if you're at 12.000 INT that's 5% extra bonus dmg from it? From a diminishing returns (<- keyword) point of view, at some point I'm sure getting 700 Dex instead of 700 Int could be worthwhile. Who knows, maybe it's even better than Vit at a certain point.
  • #17
    Quote from Jaetch

    Quote from Venaliter

    Str/Int, Dex/Int, str/dex properties have been removed as affixes in RoS. Builds like this, heavily dependent of having dex, will probably disappear.

    http://us.battle.net...40205?page=2#25

    Don't forget paragon points :) You can go dexterity rather than intelligence for the primary category or just focus on stacking evasion in the defensive category.


    True, there are paragon points. But smartdrops and (most) wizard legendaries will lack dexterity in most probability. I suppose you might find a couple rares, but it's not like you can visit the AH anymore and search for int/dex stuff. Are there any interesting legendary affixes for this build? I just see this as getting progessively harder to find gear with, but you might be able to do something with it.

    Part of the tragedy of the AH going away is it'll be ALOT harder to find gear for unusual builds
  • #18
    Quote from Venaliter

    True, there are paragon points. But smartdrops and (most) wizard legendaries will lack dexterity in most probability. I suppose you might find a couple rares, but it's not like you can visit the AH anymore and search for int/dex stuff. Are there any interesting legendary affixes for this build? I just see this as getting progessively harder to find gear with, but you might be able to do something with it.


    99% of players will never make a dex-focused wizard. In fact, the huge majority complained that items roll "unsuitable" main stats, like wands with dex or str. Also keep in mind that smart drops just decrease the chance of "wrong main stats", but it's still possible afaik. So, only because one out of a million made a ninja wizard, it shouldn't be that 10% of wizard drops should have dex rolls.

    This complaint is just not fair at all.
  • #19
    Quote from Bagstone

    Quote from Venaliter

    True, there are paragon points. But smartdrops and (most) wizard legendaries will lack dexterity in most probability. I suppose you might find a couple rares, but it's not like you can visit the AH anymore and search for int/dex stuff. Are there any interesting legendary affixes for this build? I just see this as getting progessively harder to find gear with, but you might be able to do something with it.


    99% of players will never make a dex-focused wizard. In fact, the huge majority complained that items roll "unsuitable" main stats, like wands with dex or str. Also keep in mind that smart drops just decrease the chance of "wrong main stats", but it's still possible afaik. So, only because one out of a million made a ninja wizard, it shouldn't be that 10% of wizard drops should have dex rolls.

    This complaint is just not fair at all.


    What complaint, Bagstone?
  • #20
    That it's harder to find dex gear for wizards. It's exactly what the community has asked for since launch - stop giving dex/str items to wizards :-)

    So yeah, it is getting harder. Maybe it wasn't a real complaint of yours, but I only wanted to point out that this change is exactly what everyone asked for.
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