NEW ARCANE WIZ BUILD- More Damage than Archon!

  • #1
    Guys, check this out:


    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/mclilazng-1631/hero/5089978


    I do more damage than archon while keeping teleport and diamond skin! Hope I don't get nerfed.


    To see it in action or just to chill, check out:

    twitch.tv/mclilazng
  • #2
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  • #3
    Seems less viable than CM build still
  • #4
    How is this more damage than Archon, which does 300% weapon damage, plus 25% extra for the rune (though I don't know if that 25% is additive, multiplicative, or in general how it works)? Even with the 15% from disruption that'd put Arcane Torrent around 250% which is still below even the 300% Archon beam.
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  • #5
    cm build, if shocknadoshards greatly outdeal archons damage, you just need the all res/armor/life to survive a couple of hits. As for your build its nice but archon prolly deals more damage.
  • #6
    It's not more damage than archon, Twister resets.
  • #7
    Quote from Loroese

    How is this more damage than Archon, which does 300% weapon damage, plus 25% extra for the rune (though I don't know if that 25% is additive, multiplicative, or in general how it works)? Even with the 15% from disruption that'd put Arcane Torrent around 250% which is still below even the 300% Archon beam.


    Although the damage calculations are higher for archon, Arcane torrent isn't a single damage ability- it's multiple torrents. If you watched the stream, you would see that the burst makes their life go down faster than if I were to use Improved Archon and wait for the right click to slowly bring their life down.
  • #8
    Quote from Madwizz

    cm build, if shocknadoshards greatly outdeal archons damage, you just need the all res/armor/life to survive a couple of hits. As for your build its nice but archon prolly deals more damage.


    since cm got nerfed, you need high crit to have the same level of viability. I don't have high crit or particularly high resists. Those that are undergeared that way should use my build. Thanks for the comment though
  • #9
    CM was not nerfed. ET was nerfed but ET with SC still works fine.
    Bandyto#2350
    EU
  • #10
    Quote from Bandyto

    CM was not nerfed. ET was nerfed but ET with SC still works fine.


    sorry that's what I meant
  • #11
    Not to be down on your spec, because it looks fine, but I watched the video on your stream page and I definitely kill things faster than that as archon. Good spec though, looks fun and stuff, but the title is a little misleading I think.
  • #12
    Archon is still more viable, especially if you are less geared such as yourself. The main reason being is gaining the 40% resists and armor while in archon form, that given a % LS you can pretty much face-tank any elites even with relatively low base resists and armor. When you say faster - in your stream (http://www.twitch.tv/mclilazng/b/330403045), i can see you taking good 20-30 seconds to kill a bunch of elite archers, in my archon with the similar 90k DPS i melt them in 4-5 seconds flat out, without me having to worry about my HP and avoiding their arrows or going back to town to heal. The main advantage of archon is not so much about the % wpn damage on the skills, it is 2 things really - ability to facetank and spammable abilities that do not cost anything so you never have to worry about running out of AP.

    The disadvantage of archon, however, is simply running out of stuff to kill and having the archon buff expire while you still have 1min++ on your CD, during that time, especially if you encounter another elite, it's quite zzzz spamming a single signature spell until the CD is up. There are areas in act III that make archon absolutely superb and areas where it's nearly useless, for example barracks - archon there is utterly useless, you encounter 1 mob every other room and that's about it, but if you speak about depths level 2 or rakkis crossing bridge, a single cast of archon will easily allow you to clear the whole area from start to end without even recasting it.

    What i like about your build is that it's gonna be more effective in party play, archon, unless you have 200k-ish DPS, will have very low uptime in party games, making it a low less feasible as you end up spending 70% of your game time without archon up. In single player, with 90k DPS and 24% move speed i spend nearly 80% of my game time in archon form. With your build - the damage output is clearly there, with higher crit and AP on crit you can spam that stuff really fast + you do not have to rely on archon CD to produce strong damage output. All you need is a DT barb or a monk to run in front of you to take the beating while you sit back and melt faces.
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  • #13
    streaming now- with 2 other wiz's with CM and a monk for your viewing pleasure. FAST act 3 full clear.
  • #14
    I play a build similar to yours but with arcane mines instead of disruption, they have a good sinergy with temporal flux and mobs are slowed 60% all the time, it allows me to swap to my 360 MF every pack

    http://eu.battle.net...OSji!YdU!bYYZaa
  • #15
    just wait till you are running archon with 100k+ damage waiting for mobs to die? more like looking for more mobs to kill muwhahahaha
  • #16
    Quote from Goldroger_82

    I play a build similar to yours but with arcane mines instead of disruption, they have a good sinergy with temporal flux and mobs are slowed 60% all the time, it allows me to swap to my 360 MF every pack

    http://eu.battle.net...OSji!YdU!bYYZaa


    Like this build. Played on that build. ( my english so bad )
  • #17
    streaming now, made some adjustments so that the build is more fun lol
  • #18
    streaming now
  • #19
    Your build is so hilarious. It's one of the the lowest DPS arcane builds I have ever seen. It would be cute in hardcore but in softcore 5 defensive skills ... really ?

    The only reason you don't find Archon superior is because you failed at obtaining Crit % and Dmg.
  • #20
    Just no no no no no this is not more damage than archon build .....
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