Venom Hydra and Blizzard do not crit due to a bug with all DoT effects not critting. Blizzard (not the skill) is aware of this issue and hopefully it is resolved soon.
Aren't people saying these two spells don't crit? Or maybe I'm remembering incorrectly.
Yep just tested, neither crit. Hydra I can sorta understand but Blizzard not criting seems like a bug?
More than one spell does not show that it crits (no yellow numbers), but it actually does crit (damage is higher sometimes and procs critical mass and stuff).
Really the best way to check is using +AP on Crit gear so you can watch the AP spike up if it can crit.
Venom Hydra and Blizzard do not crit due to a bug with all DoT effects not critting. Blizzard (not the skill) is aware of this issue and hopefully it is resolved soon.
After reading some posts in this thread I did some testing myself and I was wrong, Blizzard does indeed crit but since the damage is spread out over time it doesn't scale very well with crit chance/crit damage. I was also able to get it to proc Critical Mass which further proves that it does crit. The bug is that the crits are in white, not yellow, and will not show up if you only have "Display Critical Damage" checked in the options menu.
For the record Disintegrate doesn't crit either. Chaos Nexus' little beams will, but the main beam does not.
This is flat out wrong (although until a few days ago I would have agreed with you). I tested all of the skills that people claimed could not crit, i.e. Ray of Frost, Disintegrate, Blizzard, and Venom Hydra. I took critical mass and made sure I was not using Chaos Nexus with Disintegrate. The results were that RoF, Dis, and Blizzard can and do crit (they also proc Critical Mass when they crit which is further evidence). However there still is a bug and it's with how the crits are displayed: With these skills the crits show up as regular white txt and do not appear if you only have "Display Critical Damage" checked in your options.
I tested this by swapping a 70% crit damage gem in and out of my gear, having Critical Mass, and keeping Mirror Image and Wave of Force on cooldown while attacking a group of zombies in Act 1 Inferno (ideal test subjects because they are slow). I first ran my test without the green gem and recorded the the numbers I saw on my screen. Then I placed the green gem back in my weapon and quickly saw that I started getting numbers that were far larger than what I was getting before; this makes sense given that my crits were hitting 70% harder with the gem. These numbers also lined up with Critical Mass procs which is further proof of a critical hit.
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e.g Will I still gain Arcane Power when the DoT on the floor from Venom Hydra crits & the DoT's damage is increased when it crits?
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Cool thanks for the info.
Yep just tested, neither crit. Hydra I can sorta understand but Blizzard not criting seems like a bug?
Blizzard doesn't scale up in damage with attack speed and crit
Hydra does scale up in damage with attack speed and crit
More than one spell does not show that it crits (no yellow numbers), but it actually does crit (damage is higher sometimes and procs critical mass and stuff).
Really the best way to check is using +AP on Crit gear so you can watch the AP spike up if it can crit.
venom hydra does not crit at all
I knew about AS affecting Hydra's damage, but are you sure about crit? If so, is it safe to assume that extra crit damage also affects it?
After reading some posts in this thread I did some testing myself and I was wrong, Blizzard does indeed crit but since the damage is spread out over time it doesn't scale very well with crit chance/crit damage. I was also able to get it to proc Critical Mass which further proves that it does crit. The bug is that the crits are in white, not yellow, and will not show up if you only have "Display Critical Damage" checked in the options menu.
Venom Hydra cannot crit.
This is flat out wrong (although until a few days ago I would have agreed with you). I tested all of the skills that people claimed could not crit, i.e. Ray of Frost, Disintegrate, Blizzard, and Venom Hydra. I took critical mass and made sure I was not using Chaos Nexus with Disintegrate. The results were that RoF, Dis, and Blizzard can and do crit (they also proc Critical Mass when they crit which is further evidence). However there still is a bug and it's with how the crits are displayed: With these skills the crits show up as regular white txt and do not appear if you only have "Display Critical Damage" checked in your options.
I tested this by swapping a 70% crit damage gem in and out of my gear, having Critical Mass, and keeping Mirror Image and Wave of Force on cooldown while attacking a group of zombies in Act 1 Inferno (ideal test subjects because they are slow). I first ran my test without the green gem and recorded the the numbers I saw on my screen. Then I placed the green gem back in my weapon and quickly saw that I started getting numbers that were far larger than what I was getting before; this makes sense given that my crits were hitting 70% harder with the gem. These numbers also lined up with Critical Mass procs which is further proof of a critical hit.