I've noticed that most TR builds that run meteor as a spell tend to use it to fill the arcane slot meaning starpact.
However, when you cast a starpact meteor (and eat up all your AP) don't you significantly reduce the damage of your TR procced meteor (which then procs with next to no AP)? Wouldn't it be much more effective to use thundercrash and the AP signature?
I've noticed that most TR builds that run meteor as a spell tend to use it to fill the arcane slot meaning starpact.
However, when you cast a starpact meteor (and eat up all your AP) don't you significantly reduce the damage of your TR procced meteor (which then procs with next to no AP)? Wouldn't it be much more effective to use thundercrash and the AP signature?
That's a valid point. probably worth it to proc the TR arcane meteor by casting teleport calamity and only after that, casting the SP meteor itself.
Using calamity is a two fold advantage. Arcane dynamo isn't affected by Calamity, so you retain your stacks for a cast after casting calamity into the mobs, either for Hydra of Blizzard if Hydra's already up.
So you ramp up Arcoan Dynamo, teleport into the mobs, trigger star pact into the mobs, then blizzard (another meteor) and ramp up Arcane Dynamo again (lightning meteor), port out to edge or hydra (meteor), and stay put if you're able.
The idea was that I'm looking for ways to use meteor in my TR build. It feels such a waste of possibilities to not use a spell which you've got a minimum 100% bonus damage for (boots). Wouldn't an AP signature spell (e.g. the AP generating ones) + thundercrash meteor be better than calamity + lightning signature?
You can use comet instead of blizzard, it works really well, and you can even use grand vizier, SS is not that needed as people like to point out, i did manage to get rank #50 non season solo without it.
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My SS sux, what's good substitute until I find a good one?
As i pointed out in the post above, Grand Vizier is awesome, i won't be using SS EVER, i can solo 54 atm and 55 is within reach np, with SS and the same gear with ancient T&T i got to 53, i'm not saying it sucks, but i don't think it is the only option.
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Side note, I don't run out of arcane by a long shot, but to boost arcane meteor I should max arcane to max capacity, no? (Paragon I mean) Not at 600 yet, only like 590 ish
I've noticed that most TR builds that run meteor as a spell tend to use it to fill the arcane slot meaning starpact.
However, when you cast a starpact meteor (and eat up all your AP) don't you significantly reduce the damage of your TR procced meteor (which then procs with next to no AP)? Wouldn't it be much more effective to use thundercrash and the AP signature?
Side note, I don't run out of arcane by a long shot, but to boost arcane meteor I should max arcane to max capacity, no? (Paragon I mean) Not at 600 yet, only like 590 ish
I meant the build is not using the spell meteor itself.
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I've noticed that most TR builds that run meteor as a spell tend to use it to fill the arcane slot meaning starpact.
However, when you cast a starpact meteor (and eat up all your AP) don't you significantly reduce the damage of your TR procced meteor (which then procs with next to no AP)? Wouldn't it be much more effective to use thundercrash and the AP signature?
That's a valid point. probably worth it to proc the TR arcane meteor by casting teleport calamity and only after that, casting the SP meteor itself.
Using calamity is a two fold advantage. Arcane dynamo isn't affected by Calamity, so you retain your stacks for a cast after casting calamity into the mobs, either for Hydra of Blizzard if Hydra's already up.
So you ramp up Arcoan Dynamo, teleport into the mobs, trigger star pact into the mobs, then blizzard (another meteor) and ramp up Arcane Dynamo again (lightning meteor), port out to edge or hydra (meteor), and stay put if you're able.
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The idea was that I'm looking for ways to use meteor in my TR build. It feels such a waste of possibilities to not use a spell which you've got a minimum 100% bonus damage for (boots). Wouldn't an AP signature spell (e.g. the AP generating ones) + thundercrash meteor be better than calamity + lightning signature?
If you're doing a ranged Tal's yes, if you're doing a melee Tal's, no.
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What? Me worry?
You can use comet instead of blizzard, it works really well, and you can even use grand vizier, SS is not that needed as people like to point out, i did manage to get rank #50 non season solo without it.
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My SS sux, what's good substitute until I find a good one?
WD Season 8 https://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/finiar-1655/Kildare/84509816
Monk season 7 http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/finiar-1655/MojoJoJo/42225505
DH season 6 http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/finiar-1655/DeadShot/75655606
Angry Chicken http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/finiar-1655/WhoDoVooDoo/68187610
What? Me worry?
As i pointed out in the post above, Grand Vizier is awesome, i won't be using SS EVER, i can solo 54 atm and 55 is within reach np, with SS and the same gear with ancient T&T i got to 53, i'm not saying it sucks, but i don't think it is the only option.
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2 hander? I'm pushing for Ancient 1 hander ancient off hand. Have an Ancient Burning Axe of Sankis?
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Angry Chicken http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/finiar-1655/WhoDoVooDoo/68187610
What? Me worry?
Current build:
6 TR + 4 del (5+3+RORG)
Lightning signature (piercing orb)
Blizzard
Hydra
slowtime, arcane as highest +elemental damage
No meteors but that slowtime damage with the 600% from TR is hilarious
this is the ranged Tal's hybrid, no?
If you have 6 Tal's whey are there no meteors?
Aren't meteors at 2 now?
Side note, I don't run out of arcane by a long shot, but to boost arcane meteor I should max arcane to max capacity, no? (Paragon I mean) Not at 600 yet, only like 590 ish
WD Season 8 https://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/finiar-1655/Kildare/84509816
Monk season 7 http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/finiar-1655/MojoJoJo/42225505
DH season 6 http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/finiar-1655/DeadShot/75655606
Angry Chicken http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/finiar-1655/WhoDoVooDoo/68187610
What? Me worry?
Yes to do your first question, no to your second.
I meant the build is not using the spell meteor itself.