You've flooded the official wizard and WD forums with this. You then flooded the official General forum multiple times with this same type of post. And if I remember correctly, a couple of your posts there got BURIED on the General forum (that's some achievement). Now you're posting the same thing on Diablofans. Enough already.
It's not all that unknown that witch doctor sets are crazy. It's not even Jade. Have you seen Pet doctors with 15x Fetishes each landing crits for 20M? That's without cooldown Jade doctors have to deal with. And that's not counting TMF dogs landing crits upward of 100M per hit. My subpar Pet doctor can down T6 Ghom in approximately 15 seconds. One of my clan mates with a better geared Pet doctor kills T6 Ghom in approximately 7 seconds.
Have you seen Shotgun Crusaders? Three beams instant 60M per shot for 180M total on elites per cast. Cast. Not per second. That's more per second considering most have >1 APS. Also without cooldown. Full Akkhan set with CDR means near perma-Champ status for even more eDPS. Jade doctors aren't even the best out there nowadays. Flashy 500-700M nukes every 10 seconds without GI kicking in, whoopee.
If you feel like one-shotting elites, you can do the same with Harrington Archon wizards. Initial explosion is usually more than enough to down any elite pack on T6.
Source: I have both a Jade and Pet doctor. I can one-shot T6 elites with solo Archon. Clan mates with end-game Pet and Jade doctors. Rimeheart monks. Shotgun Crusaders. Full Marauder DHs.
You've flooded the official wizard and WD forums with this. You then flooded the official General forum multiple times with this same type of post. And if I remember correctly, a couple of your posts there got BURIED on the General forum (that's some achievement). Now you're posting the same thing on Diablofans. Enough already.
It's not all that unknown that witch doctor sets are crazy. It's not even Jade. Have you seen Pet doctors with 15x Fetishes each landing crits for 20M? That's without cooldown Jade doctors have to deal with. And that's not counting TMF dogs landing crits upward of 100M per hit. My subpar Pet doctor can down T6 Ghom in approximately 15 seconds. One of my clan mates with a better geared Pet doctor kills T6 Ghom in approximately 7 seconds.
Have you seen Shotgun Crusaders? Three beams instant 60M per shot for 180M total on elites per cast. Cast. Not per second. That's more per second considering most have >1 APS. Also without cooldown. Full Akkhan set with CDR means near perma-Champ status for even more eDPS. Jade doctors aren't even the best out there nowadays. Flashy 500-700M nukes every 10 seconds without GI kicking in, whoopee.
If you feel like one-shotting elites, you can do the same with Harrington Archon wizards. Initial explosion is usually more than enough to down any elite pack on T6.
Source: I have both a Jade and Pet doctor. I can one-shot T6 elites with solo Archon. Clan mates with end-game Pet and Jade doctors. Rimeheart monks. Shotgun Crusaders. Full Marauder DHs.
there are "end game" builds that can do T6 well for almost all classes, as listed above.
You've flooded the official wizard and WD forums with this. You then flooded the official General forum multiple times with this same type of post. And if I remember correctly, a couple of your posts there got BURIED on the General forum (that's some achievement). Now you're posting the same thing on Diablofans. Enough already.
It's not all that unknown that witch doctor sets are crazy. It's not even Jade. Have you seen Pet doctors with 15x Fetishes each landing crits for 20M? That's without cooldown Jade doctors have to deal with. And that's not counting TMF dogs landing crits upward of 100M per hit. My subpar Pet doctor can down T6 Ghom in approximately 15 seconds. One of my clan mates with a better geared Pet doctor kills T6 Ghom in approximately 7 seconds.
Have you seen Shotgun Crusaders? Three beams instant 60M per shot for 180M total on elites per cast. Cast. Not per second. That's more per second considering most have >1 APS. Also without cooldown. Full Akkhan set with CDR means near perma-Champ status for even more eDPS. Jade doctors aren't even the best out there nowadays. Flashy 500-700M nukes every 10 seconds without GI kicking in, whoopee.
If you feel like one-shotting elites, you can do the same with Harrington Archon wizards. Initial explosion is usually more than enough to down any elite pack on T6.
Source: I have both a Jade and Pet doctor. I can one-shot T6 elites with solo Archon. Clan mates with end-game Pet and Jade doctors. Rimeheart monks. Shotgun Crusaders. Full Marauder DHs.
If you run CDR on your Jade WD, then you know it takes WAY less than 10 seconds to nuke again. In fact, killing 5 or more monsters with your first nuke guarantees that you hardly have to wait AT ALL to nuke again.
I have grouped with all those builds you mention above and nothing comes close to the Jade WD.
Wizards are crap right now. Archon and Harrington... still takes ages to kill things after you pop that first nuke (I've seen videos).
Everyone is on the "don't nerf, buff!" bandwagon which doesn't hold true when a class/build overperforms to the degree of the Jade build. Watch the stream if you don't believe I kill faster than marauder dh's and shotty saders. I leave them behind in the dust in damage as well as survivability because my Spirit Walk is literally ALWAYS up or active. You can naysay all you like, but it's simply too strong right now.
edit: I have the right to post, same as you. I'm surprised you've tracked my threads so closely. If I'm annoying you by posting "the same thing" all the time, I apologize, however, not everyone lives on the forums to see every single thread I make.
You have no idea how well geared Pet doctors and Shotgun Crusaders perform do you? Spirit Walk mobility has nothing on near perma Endurance Steed Charge that basically puts the Crusader at a minimum 175% MS. Can you one-shot every single T6 elites on your own in a 4-player game? That's on average 2B+ damage against the weakest of elite targets. And if you don't one-shot with enough targets nearby, that's not enough for GI to kick in and that's eDPS lost. If you can one-shot every single elite pack in every situation consistently without fail, then maybe it's too strong.
Jade doctor is fine. There's really nothing all that special about it compared to other end game T6 builds, especially those that shine against trash, elites and single targets like Rift Guardians alike. Maybe you ought to check out the solo builds that take out all T6 Ubers in sub-5 minutes.
every class ive gone through and geared ive said to myself "omg this is op" at the finished work then i realized thats just how it is once you have all the pieces you need to make a build work really well jade set isnt even as effecient as other builds for other classes for farming jade/pet build/support monk/eq barb/6pc dh/crusader shotgun or darklight are all exceptional in my opinion working on that fire archon next!\
and Jaetch is correct i think crusader blows wd away
Wizards are crap right now. Archon and Harrington... still takes ages to kill things after you pop that first nuke (I've seen videos).
Everyone is on the "don't nerf, buff!" bandwagon which doesn't hold true when a class/build overperforms to the degree of the Jade build. Watch the stream if you don't believe I kill faster than marauder dh's and shotty saders. I leave them behind in the dust in damage as well as survivability because my Spirit Walk is literally ALWAYS up or active. You can naysay all you like, but it's simply too strong right now.
edit: I have the right to post, same as you. I'm surprised you've tracked my threads so closely. If I'm annoying you by posting "the same thing" all the time, I apologize, however, not everyone lives on the forums to see every single thread I make.
1. CDR builds, are, were and will always be idiotic, the only class that relies on such a thing without crippling the entire spec is Crusader, which you do not have (Jade WD is the only decent thing you have on your account, and even that still needs a few huge gear changes, you can start by not having 4 crap wizards, deleting most of the crap wizard gear and making one single excellently geared one that is suitable for T5+).
2. If you grouped with other people geared for T6 you noticed how much of a burden you are for the party (Jade is the worst gear WD has in group play).
3. We all see videos, we're not blind, seeing videos means nothing, solo Jade doctor is = to 0, among other things we see in videos.
4. I'd love to say that everyone isn't stupid, but that's not true, not everyone knows why WD is fine, more however, like you, do go on the "omegle, jade ductur too ohpee, nurf, nurf" without even considering for a second that especially Jade WD will be BUFFED, since it's actually glitch nerffed at the moment.
If you pride yourself in seeing videos of other classes, then we all pretty much know for a fact that you're clueless to end gear wizards, crusaders, demon hunters, barbarians and I will go as far as including monks too which is the only class not on par with the other 5. Conclusion, get a clue, play the game more, learn about different things, THEN be dramatic about something (then again, you've been running "mediocre" for so long, I doubt there's any chance for you, if you ever get to play another class and reach specific T6 builds/gear, you will find your new "All must see OP XYZ gameplay" as if everyone out there is incapable of learning how to play a specific class and what that class needs until you learn all that and share it with the world).
Personal attacks are not appreciated, friend.
I play groups with my jade, and I end up carrying the team, EVERY time.
I have SEVERAL end-game wizard gear sets (all suck btw, they are wizards after all), but way to judge what's equipped in my profile.
@Jaech, I know perfectly well how the other specs play. Like I said, I always, ALWAYS end up carrying them. Crusaders, Dhs, pet docs... all of them. Pet docs only end up being useful against RG or the odd champion that survivees beyond his minions after they get SH'd. Also you failed to mention near-perma spirit walk, which is not only mobility, it is near permanent INVULNERABILITY.
I play groups with my jade, and I end up carrying the team, EVERY time.
I have SEVERAL end-game wizard gear sets (all suck btw, they are wizards after all), but way to judge what's equipped in my profile.
@Jaech, I know perfectly well how the other specs play. Like I said, I always, ALWAYS end up carrying them. Crusaders, Dhs, pet docs... all of them. Pet docs only end up being useful against RG or the odd champion that survivees beyond his minions after they get SH'd. Also you failed to mention near-perma spirit walk, which is not only mobility, it is near permanent INVULNERABILITY.
1. Facts are not attacks.
2. If you're carrying 3 players with Jade, they do not have the gear for that torment.
3. You're switching the same sets around, same base gear with different parts to make lighting builds, fire, etc, all incomplete, all flawed, all technically a waste of time since you seem to think that's the best a wiz can do.
If you want people to somehow like what you post, do not write pointless drama and do not think that you just discovered the wheel in 2014, just to advertise for twitch, pointless drama and shameless advertising is a registered trademark for the official Blizzard game forums.
You can only see what I have equipped and have no clue what I have in my inventories or stash. You're plain wrong. But that's fine. Thanks for bumping my thread with your trolling.
If you're spamming forums over and over then you're going to get hate at some point.
That said, posting videos of things that someone else has already done is not a big deal. It would be just plain foolish to believe you're going to start a game channel (or much of anything, really), where all your content is first and no one ever thought of it before. In fact, that'd just be plain out right stupid to think that.
If I wrote a list of all the people and/or instances where I'm told I'm wrong, or it cannot be done, or any of that I'd need reams worth of paper.
I'll straight up read stuff from David Ogilvy on the subject of advertising, tell it to someone, and every time I'm told how it's dumb, it won't work, it's a bad approach. Same with Dan Kennedy, Jay Abrahams, Seth Goden, Robert Kiyosaki, Claude Hopkins, Joe Sugarman, and a bunch of others. Some names may be typod, but if you don't recognize those names and are curious, get to Google. They're all self made millionaires. And they've all written books.
There's always some tool that's going to rain on your parade, belittle you, and tell you how and why you're wrong even when they themselves really haven't got a clue.
And the reason I say that is very simple: don't spam forums with the same content, don't feed the trolls, learn from your mistakes, and don't take no crap from people who mostly don't have any idea whatsoever what they're talking about.
And I'll go on record here and now to say that yes, I too have YouTube gaming channel, and no - I wouldn't want to build it into a full time income even if I believed I "have the right stuff" to build that kind of audience. I'm a gamer. But to cater to the "gaming community" is just asking for a lot of abuse. And you're going to be working quite a bit. And it won't be long term residual income. Why? Because a video game is not evergreen content.
In other words... I won't get 50K views on a video because I'm not gamer god or whatever, but I also don't put much value on getting 50K views for a D3 video in the first place really. Especially not with seeing Google AdSense revenues this year. It's pathetic.
Well... seems like this thread has run its course. Maybe show some more decency when posting next time... this thread is going to be locked as the discussion doesn't seem to go nowhere except on a personal level.
Come watch how easy it is to roll through T6 rifts with this build before it gets nerfed!
http://www.twitch.tv/zzat1977
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Elite packs 1-shotted! This build is sooooo fair.
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It's not all that unknown that witch doctor sets are crazy. It's not even Jade. Have you seen Pet doctors with 15x Fetishes each landing crits for 20M? That's without cooldown Jade doctors have to deal with. And that's not counting TMF dogs landing crits upward of 100M per hit. My subpar Pet doctor can down T6 Ghom in approximately 15 seconds. One of my clan mates with a better geared Pet doctor kills T6 Ghom in approximately 7 seconds.
Have you seen Shotgun Crusaders? Three beams instant 60M per shot for 180M total on elites per cast. Cast. Not per second. That's more per second considering most have >1 APS. Also without cooldown. Full Akkhan set with CDR means near perma-Champ status for even more eDPS. Jade doctors aren't even the best out there nowadays. Flashy 500-700M nukes every 10 seconds without GI kicking in, whoopee.
If you feel like one-shotting elites, you can do the same with Harrington Archon wizards. Initial explosion is usually more than enough to down any elite pack on T6.
Source: I have both a Jade and Pet doctor. I can one-shot T6 elites with solo Archon. Clan mates with end-game Pet and Jade doctors. Rimeheart monks. Shotgun Crusaders. Full Marauder DHs.
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I have grouped with all those builds you mention above and nothing comes close to the Jade WD.
Wizards are crap right now. Archon and Harrington... still takes ages to kill things after you pop that first nuke (I've seen videos).
Everyone is on the "don't nerf, buff!" bandwagon which doesn't hold true when a class/build overperforms to the degree of the Jade build. Watch the stream if you don't believe I kill faster than marauder dh's and shotty saders. I leave them behind in the dust in damage as well as survivability because my Spirit Walk is literally ALWAYS up or active. You can naysay all you like, but it's simply too strong right now.
edit: I have the right to post, same as you. I'm surprised you've tracked my threads so closely. If I'm annoying you by posting "the same thing" all the time, I apologize, however, not everyone lives on the forums to see every single thread I make.
Jade doctor is fine. There's really nothing all that special about it compared to other end game T6 builds, especially those that shine against trash, elites and single targets like Rift Guardians alike. Maybe you ought to check out the solo builds that take out all T6 Ubers in sub-5 minutes.
Armory | YouTube | Twitter | Clan Site
and Jaetch is correct i think crusader blows wd away
I play groups with my jade, and I end up carrying the team, EVERY time.
I have SEVERAL end-game wizard gear sets (all suck btw, they are wizards after all), but way to judge what's equipped in my profile.
@Jaech, I know perfectly well how the other specs play. Like I said, I always, ALWAYS end up carrying them. Crusaders, Dhs, pet docs... all of them. Pet docs only end up being useful against RG or the odd champion that survivees beyond his minions after they get SH'd. Also you failed to mention near-perma spirit walk, which is not only mobility, it is near permanent INVULNERABILITY.
That said, posting videos of things that someone else has already done is not a big deal. It would be just plain foolish to believe you're going to start a game channel (or much of anything, really), where all your content is first and no one ever thought of it before. In fact, that'd just be plain out right stupid to think that.
If I wrote a list of all the people and/or instances where I'm told I'm wrong, or it cannot be done, or any of that I'd need reams worth of paper.
I'll straight up read stuff from David Ogilvy on the subject of advertising, tell it to someone, and every time I'm told how it's dumb, it won't work, it's a bad approach. Same with Dan Kennedy, Jay Abrahams, Seth Goden, Robert Kiyosaki, Claude Hopkins, Joe Sugarman, and a bunch of others. Some names may be typod, but if you don't recognize those names and are curious, get to Google. They're all self made millionaires. And they've all written books.
There's always some tool that's going to rain on your parade, belittle you, and tell you how and why you're wrong even when they themselves really haven't got a clue.
And the reason I say that is very simple: don't spam forums with the same content, don't feed the trolls, learn from your mistakes, and don't take no crap from people who mostly don't have any idea whatsoever what they're talking about.
And I'll go on record here and now to say that yes, I too have YouTube gaming channel, and no - I wouldn't want to build it into a full time income even if I believed I "have the right stuff" to build that kind of audience. I'm a gamer. But to cater to the "gaming community" is just asking for a lot of abuse. And you're going to be working quite a bit. And it won't be long term residual income. Why? Because a video game is not evergreen content.
In other words... I won't get 50K views on a video because I'm not gamer god or whatever, but I also don't put much value on getting 50K views for a D3 video in the first place really. Especially not with seeing Google AdSense revenues this year. It's pathetic.
Well... seems like this thread has run its course. Maybe show some more decency when posting next time... this thread is going to be locked as the discussion doesn't seem to go nowhere except on a personal level.