Been running Rhen'ho for about a week and summons max FS after just a couple attacks and seems do do amazing at higher torments with addling toads as well, A Starmetal dropped today and I'm wondering if I should swap to it? I have zuni's so doesnt that make Starmetal kind of meaningless? or is it still better than Rhen'ho in full pet build for the perma BBV? just needing some hints and maybe skill set ups for the starmetal.. thanks!
first of all gz on starmetal but yes its worthles and sorry to inform you zunni is worthless aswell and heres why since you can spwan now only 15 fetishes since 2.0.5 patch you can summon them so fast with the toads they will keep respwaning and kill each other off so actualy zunni aint a factor here anymore but in patch 2.1.0 they will change the mechanic to 15 or 10 from each passive and summon festish army they will be seperated so till 2.1.0 starmetal and zunni or kinda worthless
first of all gz on starmetal but yes its worthles and sorry to inform you zunni is worthless aswell and heres why since you can spwan now only 15 fetishes since 2.0.5 patch you can summon them so fast with the toads they will keep respwaning and kill each other off so actualy zunni aint a factor here anymore but in patch 2.1.0 they will change the mechanic to 15 or 10 from each passive and summon festish army they will be seperated so till 2.1.0 starmetal and zunni or kinda worthless
How is zuni's starmetal worthless? If you're running zunis 4 piece you can simply take our the FS passive and free up a new skill slot.
first of all gz on starmetal but yes its worthles and sorry to inform you zunni is worthless aswell and heres why since you can spwan now only 15 fetishes since 2.0.5 patch you can summon them so fast with the toads they will keep respwaning and kill each other off so actualy zunni aint a factor here anymore but in patch 2.1.0 they will change the mechanic to 15 or 10 from each passive and summon festish army they will be seperated so till 2.1.0 starmetal and zunni or kinda worthless
How is zuni's starmetal worthless? If you're running zunis 4 piece you can simply take our the FS passive and free up a new skill slot.
first of all gz on starmetal but yes its worthles and sorry to inform you zunni is worthless aswell and heres why since you can spwan now only 15 fetishes since 2.0.5 patch you can summon them so fast with the toads they will keep respwaning and kill each other off so actualy zunni aint a factor here anymore but in patch 2.1.0 they will change the mechanic to 15 or 10 from each passive and summon festish army they will be seperated so till 2.1.0 starmetal and zunni or kinda worthless
So a worthless weapons goes trough Torment 6? Thats odd.
@ vagrancy if i can equip a wep and passive skill and i will get the exact same thing as using 3x set items (thats if you got rorg if not 4) and weapon and take out a active skill i would prefer to waste 1 passive and 1 wep than i can rebuild more sets for more stats
@henno of course you can run it on t6... that doesnt mean the outcome will be the same as just losing 1 item instead of 4 for the same outcome... so yeah compared to rheno flyer i find this items worthless in the meanwhile
and lets not forget if you fight big packs that demolish fetish army fast enough by 1 shotting them specialy on t6 you will need to wait for cd to recast fetish instead of just auto attack which will summon the fetish army faster the only advantage i see here for smk is the recast of bbv other than that rheno wins
most of what you say isn't true. I have tried running SMK without Zunis, and it still is better with zunis. And there is no pack that 1 shots fetish army in t6 unless you have absolutely no gear. Remember their toughness rises with yours. If they are getting one shot, you don't belong in t6 yet.
I've been running both SMK and Rhen'Ho on T6. Here is what I can tell you from my personal experience
First lets start with both are viable!
Rhen'Ho give you more DPS on paper that is for sure. I got mine 2450dmg. Crits higher etc that is all true. I used exploding toads with it. And you get a ton of fetishes fast. I usually play in a party. On elites I'm very useful with garg and BBV. On high HP whites not so much as DH/Wizz in my team melts them with ease. I usually had BBV and/or Garg on every elite. So they go very fast.
SMK gives you almost 100% uptime BBV. On every elite for sure, you can't really cast it on every white but easily on every large pack. You have to use raining toads for it work, exploding ones are crap with SMK. My fetishes do bouble DMG on every elite and most white mobs and my SMK has 2000 dmg unlike 2450 from Rhen'Ho. All my allies do extra DMG on Every elite(with Rhen'Ho it is 2/3, you just can't get BBV on every elite pack) and every white pack. You don't have to runs FA with SMK, I don't. If you use only FS it works great, I use it mostly for buffs. We as a party have seen a great increase in our clear times once I got SMK. In cases when we run into 4 elites in a group I can have 4-5 BBV at the same time, so entire fighting area is covered with Buffs, which is very usefull.
Conclusion:I'm still missing a few pieces of gear to be able to run T6 efficient solo so I can only say what works better for me. SMK wins hands down in a party, and every member of my party agrees, we discussed it. In solo play I think this is more matter of preference, if you can kill white fast then you don't need SMK and other wpns can be good, even better.
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@henno of course you can run it on t6... that doesnt mean the outcome will be the same as just losing 1 item instead of 4 for the same outcome... so yeah compared to rheno flyer i find this items worthless in the meanwhile
and lets not forget if you fight big packs that demolish fetish army fast enough by 1 shotting them specialy on t6 you will need to wait for cd to recast fetish instead of just auto attack which will summon the fetish army faster the only advantage i see here for smk is the recast of bbv other than that rheno wins
First lets start with both are viable!
Rhen'Ho give you more DPS on paper that is for sure. I got mine 2450dmg. Crits higher etc that is all true. I used exploding toads with it. And you get a ton of fetishes fast. I usually play in a party. On elites I'm very useful with garg and BBV. On high HP whites not so much as DH/Wizz in my team melts them with ease. I usually had BBV and/or Garg on every elite. So they go very fast.
SMK gives you almost 100% uptime BBV. On every elite for sure, you can't really cast it on every white but easily on every large pack. You have to use raining toads for it work, exploding ones are crap with SMK. My fetishes do bouble DMG on every elite and most white mobs and my SMK has 2000 dmg unlike 2450 from Rhen'Ho. All my allies do extra DMG on Every elite(with Rhen'Ho it is 2/3, you just can't get BBV on every elite pack) and every white pack. You don't have to runs FA with SMK, I don't. If you use only FS it works great, I use it mostly for buffs. We as a party have seen a great increase in our clear times once I got SMK. In cases when we run into 4 elites in a group I can have 4-5 BBV at the same time, so entire fighting area is covered with Buffs, which is very usefull.
Conclusion:I'm still missing a few pieces of gear to be able to run T6 efficient solo so I can only say what works better for me. SMK wins hands down in a party, and every member of my party agrees, we discussed it. In solo play I think this is more matter of preference, if you can kill white fast then you don't need SMK and other wpns can be good, even better.