Was wondering what you guys think is the most fun build around with clearing relatively high MP levels in mind.
I have spent about 1000 hours with my Barb and now want to spend some quality time with our WD friend who does not seem to garner as much support as the other classes for some strange reason.
All the gear on her is self found with the exception of the Zuni Pox which I needed for the set. Still looking at getting the Zuni marrow but thinking it might be too big a hit on the dps...
Snap7 - I was dead keen on some sort of pets build myself but after doing a little bit of research, Cloud of Bats seemed the best choice (according to the "experts"). I am, however, going to take your advice and try the Zero Dogs build as I like the idea of something running off and destroying the hordes while I polish off a delicious sandwich/beer
I lol'd quite hard there regarding the imminent 6 pack I love playing the Barb, always in the thick of things and damned intense keeping your WOTB up at all times while trying not to leave any decent looking drops behind. Like I said, I have spent 1000 hours on him so playing a WD is going to take some getting used to as it's a completely different play style.
+1 for the effort in trying to help me Snap! Most informative and definitely a build I will try once I have a little time to go search the AH for the correct gear.
Bats hits like a truck though. I remember reading that the 20% increase in damage per second is multiplicative not additive, meaning after 5 seconds you're hitting for 1000% weapon damage to everything around you. It melts elites incredibly fast.
Dogs is really more of a novelty build now, not much people run it anymore. And it really wont compete with bats in terms of out right damage output. Whether its more fun, thats subjective.
The drawbacks are of course its short range and anything that interrupts you. But these kind be greatly mitigated by skill choice - Pestilence to pull mobs to you, Paranoia to confuse them so they dont use their interrupting attacks, spirit walk timed correctly to avoid frozen/explosions/bull charges/etc. Grave injustice is great for lowering the cool down of these skills.
My main character is a W.D. and I think its a lot of fun, not cookie cutter style.. I'm lv 60 paragon 12 but I play Mp4-5.
ACTIVES
For Primary I use the Poison Dart - flaming dart.. it packs a mean punch.
Acid Cloud - slow burn.. it does a wicked amount of damage and good for swarms
Zombie Charger- Zombie Bears...for Elites and bosses and swarms it extremely effective.
Firebomb - Ghost Bomb...for smaller swarms and good area damage
Soul Harvest - Vengeful Spirit..gives huge Intel boosts
Gargantuan - Bruiser...lots of health and hits like a truck.
Passives
Jungle Fortitude
Pierce the Veil
Spiritual Attunement
This works for me but thats just me.. lol Good luck and with WD is a lot of fun
I use a Flaming Spiders / Acid Cloud build. I like to stay at range, so no Zombie Bears or Cloud of Bats. I spam AC until most are dead, then pick off the rest with the spiders. Not a big fan of zerging a map so I take it nice and slow and have fun.
I also like to have my pets out for support/absorbtion, so that means Humongoid and the 10% damage absorbtion Zombie Dogs. The other skills are Spirit Walk and Soul Harvest.
For passives, I use Gruesome Feast, Jungle Fortitude and Grave Injustice.
Well, firebats can be fun if you like standing still and waiting for things to come to you (using pestilence to aggro them, that is). 0dogs is not fun. It is holding down mouse 2 (summon) while spamming mouse 1 (sacrifice) the whole game, playing for some hours at a time cramps my hand. While it does less damage for more gold (a LOT more gold), survivability is greatly increased. I have 150k dps with Cloud of Bats gear, and only 90k dps with 0dog, but the ttk most packs is only slightly longer for the dogs because of the damage range of sacrifice and using 4 dogs. I rarely die on mp10 with 0dog, but find 8+ challenging with CoB and I die often on 10 without a CM Wiz in the group.
Fun-wise, I really don't know at higher mps. I quite enjoy InfiniteBears, but it is not possible to run it past MP4/5 in groups with ~150k dps. for mp4 or less it is quite fun just running through levels spamming bears and killing mobs as fast as they come on the screen. I kind of like Acid Cloud builds for fun, but they just aren't feasible as high-mp-efficient-farming builds. Other silly builds like Spirit Barrage, stun-RoT + Fetish, or even Zombie Wall can be quite fun too, but like the others, not really an option on mid-to-high mps.
I just watched a few videos of the Cloud of Bats build and seriously do not understand the appeal. Sure the DPS is incredible, but the playstyle is BORING. You literally run in and body-pull stuff to you (or use Pestilence), stand still and spam RMB until everything is dead, loot and move on. I am not saying the build is worthless, just that the playstyle, to me, takes all the fun out of the class. In fact, it reminds me of the "Hammerdin" build from D2.
Trying this CoB build and while I agree that it does hit like a truck, it feels kinda wrong? It's a melee build for a ranged character which stirs emotions within me similar to when I hear of a ranged Barbarian...
Zero Dogs up next but the gear dependency is scaring me a little.
My build is centered around making my minions tanks. They pretty much live through anything. While my DPS suffers, I prefer providing mini-tanks around to soak up the damage. Hopefully in RoS they make a "Summoner" build more viable.
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I have spent about 1000 hours with my Barb and now want to spend some quality time with our WD friend who does not seem to garner as much support as the other classes for some strange reason.
Here is my WD, squeaky clean level 60:
http://eu.battle.net...1/hero/21935827
All the gear on her is self found with the exception of the Zuni Pox which I needed for the set. Still looking at getting the Zuni marrow but thinking it might be too big a hit on the dps...
Ok, all advice welcome!
I lol'd quite hard there regarding the imminent 6 pack I love playing the Barb, always in the thick of things and damned intense keeping your WOTB up at all times while trying not to leave any decent looking drops behind. Like I said, I have spent 1000 hours on him so playing a WD is going to take some getting used to as it's a completely different play style.
Cheers!
Dogs is really more of a novelty build now, not much people run it anymore. And it really wont compete with bats in terms of out right damage output. Whether its more fun, thats subjective.
The drawbacks are of course its short range and anything that interrupts you. But these kind be greatly mitigated by skill choice - Pestilence to pull mobs to you, Paranoia to confuse them so they dont use their interrupting attacks, spirit walk timed correctly to avoid frozen/explosions/bull charges/etc. Grave injustice is great for lowering the cool down of these skills.
ACTIVES
For Primary I use the Poison Dart - flaming dart.. it packs a mean punch.
Acid Cloud - slow burn.. it does a wicked amount of damage and good for swarms
Zombie Charger- Zombie Bears...for Elites and bosses and swarms it extremely effective.
Firebomb - Ghost Bomb...for smaller swarms and good area damage
Soul Harvest - Vengeful Spirit..gives huge Intel boosts
Gargantuan - Bruiser...lots of health and hits like a truck.
Passives
Jungle Fortitude
Pierce the Veil
Spiritual Attunement
This works for me but thats just me.. lol Good luck and with WD is a lot of fun
From what I can tell, compared to the Barb, there are WAY more viable builds available to the WD making it that much more interesting.
WD has a lot of diverse skills making for a lot more viable builds as I've also discovered.
I also like to have my pets out for support/absorbtion, so that means Humongoid and the 10% damage absorbtion Zombie Dogs. The other skills are Spirit Walk and Soul Harvest.
For passives, I use Gruesome Feast, Jungle Fortitude and Grave Injustice.
Fun-wise, I really don't know at higher mps. I quite enjoy InfiniteBears, but it is not possible to run it past MP4/5 in groups with ~150k dps. for mp4 or less it is quite fun just running through levels spamming bears and killing mobs as fast as they come on the screen. I kind of like Acid Cloud builds for fun, but they just aren't feasible as high-mp-efficient-farming builds. Other silly builds like Spirit Barrage, stun-RoT + Fetish, or even Zombie Wall can be quite fun too, but like the others, not really an option on mid-to-high mps.
Zero Dogs up next but the gear dependency is scaring me a little.