okay so i was super excited to hear that the WD was going to have summons... until they showed only two summons... the dogs pretty much dont do shit all. and the gar is a decent tank i guess. I wouldnt call this class a summoner at all since they dont have much at all for summoning. You cant make a pure summoning build, the best you can do is have a those summons as a meat shield so you can free cast for a bit. i missed the necro in D2 for summoning. that was a legit summon class. NOT the WD. i dont care what anyone says the WD is NOT a summoning class by far. every other class has summons too, which are better IMO then the WD. barb has call of the ancients, yes its a large CD but it also fucks shit up fast. doing amazing dmg. DH has her pet. Monk has his ally. wiz has familer. so every class has some sort of pet. and when you compare all the pets/summons the WD is on par with all the other classes. in fact i'd rather have some of the other classes summons instead. I've tried making a summon build for WD and i feel like its very weak. and going out of your way to try to make it work. and i dont see it being very effective past normal. i honestly hope they make another class purely based on summoning shit. summons are fun. and CAN be really powerful. PvM, and in PvP
does anyone else feel the way i felt? this was a good year ago when they just started introducing this class... they only showed very limited abilities obviously. and said they are a summoner/caster. But you dont feel like a summoner at all IMO.
The witch doctor has more than just the mongrels and the gargantuan, there are also the corpse spiders, zombie charger, fetish shaman, fetishes all by themselves, the zombie wall has a rune that turns them into minions that bum rush things. Haunt also has a rune that turns it into a point blank aoe minion.
There is more that I'm forgetting I'm sure, but the point being, that there are several variants of a summoner build that can be done with a WD, just actually look for them, a good place to start is to actually read these forums before posting.
Edit - Damn Nausicaa beat me to it. Though I think mine is actually a viable build.
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If you're complaining that you can't make a 'pure summoner' build because you can't make your pets do all your work for you, then IDK what to tell you. That's just a bad game design imo, making it to where you don't do anything and your pets do all the killing. Luckily D3 isn't this way; The pets combined do a decent amount of damage on top of yours, they can 'tank' some of the hits for you, and they will distract some enemies from firing at you.
@ Nausicaa thanks for your build. i tried doing the calc back when it was the crimson runes and what not. i wasn't sure if the spider queen was very temp. like the spiders or if it stays till she dies. thats cool. i also wasnt aware of the zombie wall. that's really cool. i thought the only summons were the dogs plus gar. maybe i'll actually make a WD now. thanks guys.
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does anyone else feel the way i felt? this was a good year ago when they just started introducing this class... they only showed very limited abilities obviously. and said they are a summoner/caster. But you dont feel like a summoner at all IMO.
There is more that I'm forgetting I'm sure, but the point being, that there are several variants of a summoner build that can be done with a WD, just actually look for them, a good place to start is to actually read these forums before posting.
http://us.battle.net...QkTP!edU!ccZbZZ
Edit - Damn Nausicaa beat me to it. Though I think mine is actually a viable build.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#giYQTP!Zdg!bZZbcb