Over 170m exp/hour (AC2)

  • #1
    Edit (3/22/2013):

    I've uploaded a new video demonstrating my new build that I use for these AC2 runs. I've found the new build to be slightly faster. After a few runs getting the hang of it, I also feel that the build is also easier to play as well:


    Basically it kills packs faster AND gets to packs faster than the original build I used.
    Results in higher exp/hour, like 170m+ exp/hour in the video.

    Edit (3/26/2013):

    The new "easy" method to do AC2 runs, even in not as good gear.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGV28i8FboY

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    Original Post:



    Quick video of my Monk farming at rates over 150m exp/hour by killing Stygian Crawlers on MP10. Most individual runs range from 130m to 170m exp/hour (depending on the number of grouped up Stygian Crawlers), resulting in an average of around 150m exp/hour in my gear.

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    The build is different from my [Demonic Essence] farming build/video, because the Stygian Crawlers are not always in the 20 yard radius of [Mantra on Conviction]. So instead of [MoC] I take [MoH] for additional spirit regeneration, and compensate the damage loss by using [Wall of Light]. Problem with [WoL - Empowered Eave] is the knock back flings scorpions all over the place (if you can't 1-shot them), then you waste time chasing them down.

    In addition, [FoT - Thunderclap] was more useful then [FoT - Quickening] because positioning to drop [WoL] was more important then extra spirit. When running between packs there is already enough time to regenerate spirit from passive spirit regeneration.
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  • #2
    really nice

    awesome XP/hour

    but...


    you need a lifesteal skorn :bigD:
  • #3
    Quote from thesikaleon

    really nice

    awesome XP/hour

    but...


    you need a lifesteal skorn :bigD:


    I do have a Lifesteal Skorn, I just take a ton of damage because of my relatively low (376) AR and I'm running around dragging mobs with me. If anything I need more AR, though I'm already able to solo MP10 ubers with my gear (different gloves), so I probably won't upgrade anything else for a while.
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  • #4
    Its obvious that you have a lifesteal skorn for yourself :Thumbs Up:

    I mean that someone needs a lifesteal skorn to make your XP farming route.

    I just uploaded a video at 80m/hour without need a lifesteal Skorn

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCdBS134S8w

    Wondering what is the best Xp farming route without lifesteal.
    Can it be better than 80m ?

    I tried mp1-5 and i survive (ignore elites) buut cant make it over 80m

    Still mp0 the best option
  • #5
    Very interesting contribution!
    Whats the problem with lifesteel skorn, you get a good one for 5-10m?

    "Still mp0 the best option"
    Yeah i guess its right, except mp10maybe which could drop some legendary as well while on mp0-2you get demonic essences.
    To me, thats the reason to do low mp since craftings is uber and i still need some resi gloves and dual resi bracer:D
  • #6
    I decided to try my method in 4.5m of gear (including gems), with no hellfire or BoA gear, and can still do 75m exp/hour on MP6.



    The trick as using a Life After Kill Skorn. I'm fairly certain a monk in like 20m of gear and a hellfire ring should be able to hit like 90-100m exp/hour doing it.
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  • #7
    Could you please show me your Monk, so I can compare him to mine :)
  • #8
    Quote from maaneater

    Could you please show me your Monk, so I can compare him to mine :)


    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/TianZi-1634/hero/5011796

    My real gear is 160-176k DPS, and with a LS skorn. If I'm wearing something else, it's probably gear for experimental/testing purposes.
    Too casual to upload anything new these days.
  • #9
    Quote from TianZi

    Quote from maaneater

    Could you please show me your Monk, so I can compare him to mine :)


    http://us.battle.net...34/hero/5011796

    My real gear is 160-176k DPS, and with a LS skorn. If I'm wearing something else, it's probably gear for experimental/testing purposes.


    Here is mine : http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/sTro-2350/hero/25626592
    My gear isnt as good as yours, and im having an hard time doing it without LS, since I propably would sacrifice too much dps for a LS Skorn, these prices are INSANE.
    Dont even know what to upgrade next since everythings so horribly expensive.
  • #10
    Quote from maaneater

    Quote from TianZi

    Quote from maaneater

    Could you please show me your Monk, so I can compare him to mine :)


    http://us.battle.net...34/hero/5011796

    My real gear is 160-176k DPS, and with a LS skorn. If I'm wearing something else, it's probably gear for experimental/testing purposes.


    Here is mine : http://eu.battle.net...0/hero/25626592
    My gear isnt as good as yours, and im having an hard time doing it without LS, since I propably would sacrifice too much dps for a LS Skorn, these prices are INSANE.
    Dont even know what to upgrade next since everythings so horribly expensive.


    After some testing with gearing I made this video showing how you can actually use Life After Kill, which costs practically nothing, instead of Life Steal for some higher MP farming.

    I did a MP7 VotA DE run in this video, though when I tested it I was able to do MP10 scorpion runs as well (though not quite at my 150m exp/hour mark). Depending on what's available on the AH, doing a method like this may be worth a shot for you:

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  • #11
    hmmm....i may have to try this out with my TR monk tomorrow. i already spam WoL, but i only have like 110k dps and only 318AR
    heavymetal#1322
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  • #12
    tianzi, I've been trying to copy your techniques with not too much success, i wonder if you could kindly have a look at my character and have any suggestions:
    eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Macey-2203/hero/14223603

    Many thanks for your time and help.

    Macey
  • #13
    i only have ~105k dps, 250 AR and 30k life ... i run mp0 and got about 55mil ep/hr ...
    i run

    1.) Core of Arreat
    2.) The Keeps Depths 3
    3.) The Keeps Depths 2
    4.) Arreat lvl 1
    5.) the following tower lvl 1
    6.) arreat lvl 2
    7.) the following tower lvl 1
    8.) relog and start anew ..

    i've tried optimizing my route with that d3 exp calc tool, and i don't seem to get any more out of it ... what can i do?
  • #14
    Quote from TheCrusader

    i only have ~105k dps, 250 AR and 30k life ... what can i do?


    Get better gear and start dumping the less effective maps (Core/KD3/Crate1/Towers) as you progress in Monster Power.
  • #15
    well, i go core and kd3 for neph stacks ... nothing more, as soon as i have 5 stacks i hat kd2.
  • #16
    Quote from maceyp

    tianzi, I've been trying to copy your techniques with not too much success, i wonder if you could kindly have a look at my character and have any suggestions:
    eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Macey-2203/hero/14223603

    Many thanks for your time and help.

    Macey


    Your eHP is quite low to do these Arreat Crater Runs. If you can get your Vit up to about 35-40k you should be able to do this type of run that kills only white mobs at around MP5-7. I don't know how things are on the European Server (I'm on America Region), so it's difficult to know how items are priced there. You should eventually switch your boots to Zunimasa boots, as that gives a big DPS boost for players using Skorn, though your current eHP is already pretty low.

    With lower eHP like how you are currently geared, you may be better of running the usual low MP TR farming routes. There is a really good post explaing pretty much everything about TR on Blizzard's forum:

    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7199912895#1

    ^It's a long read, but the author has a LOT of very useful information in there.
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  • #17
    I noticed you opted for using a marquise ruby instead of an emerald in your weapon. Any particular reasoning behind that? I have almost simmilair gear to yours and on paper an emerald would give more dps.
  • #18
    Quote from Stally

    I noticed you opted for using a marquise ruby instead of an emerald in your weapon. Any particular reasoning behind that? I have almost simmilair gear to yours and on paper an emerald would give more dps.


    After testing enough runs with both Radiant Star Emerald and Ruby, my average run time (was doing MP5 VotA back then) was better when using a Ruby. And the last step from Radiant star to marquise is bigger on the ruby as well. I actually do lose DPS on my character screen from using it as well, but decided to stick with it anyways.

    Mathematically speaking, emerald *should* be better for nearly all Skorn users. Myself and some other monks just seem to do better with the ruby.
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  • #19
    Quote from TianZi

    Mathematically speaking, emerald *should* be better for nearly all Skorn users. Myself and some other monks just seem to do better with the ruby.


    In certain scenarios, ruby is better, even mathematically.

    If you're running without a gem and hit the monsters with one run-through of TR for 90% of their health (just using random numbers here), it's better to use a ruby to buff your damage, so you do 101% damage in relation to their health instead of using an emerald and leaving 55% of the monsters alive, while overkilling the rest with 370% damage in relation to their health.

    When using Bells for Elites/Champions on lower to mid MP, it's a guaranteed 1/2-Shot anyways (and even on higher MPs it hardly makes a difference on the few elite packs), so the gem makes no difference, but as the trash mobs are the thing that you could spend too much time on, if you're struggling to one-hot them you want to make sure, you kill them with one run-through as close to a 100% ratio as possible.

    Mathematically, one should be switching the gem to an emerald when doing Ubers or heavy bell runs, but it's really not that big of a difference and I would rather spend my money on some additional crafts - which you do a lot with 40 DEs an hour after all - than on re-gemming every 10 minutes.
  • #20
    Good job man!
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