BiS for DH?

  • #1
    I need to know the BiS for the DH. I have 650M to blow. And I quit my Barb so tell me which item is BiS and why. Currently lvl 28 DH. But it will be 60this week.

    Thank you!
  • #2
    http://www.diabloprogress.com
  • #3
    I assume you want to know BiS in terms of damage/dps. I dont wanne ruin your dream but for 650mil you wont be able to buy just one realy good rolled BiS item...:o But anyways here we go.

    http://www.diabloprogress.com/rating.stat_dps_unbuffed/class.demon_hunter

    What you actual wear depends on your budget and whats availible on the market

    Helm: Mempo of Twillight
    Shoulders: Vile Ward
    Pants: Inna´s Set Pants
    Braces: Lacuni Prowlers
    Belt: Witching Hour
    Wep: 2 socket Manticore
    Quiver: Dead Mens Legacy
    2pc Nats set for 7% cc bonus maybe 3pc for the dex bonus
  • #4
    Hey hows it going. I cant say im the best DH around but im rockin 200k DPS no SS, and i think that isnt to bad my self im only missing a few clutch (restarted expensive pieces),

    Helm :
    3 choices IMO Andarel's Visage ( 4.5% cirt, 9% IAS, socket) or Mempo of Twilight (shitty version of andarel's as it only has the IAS and socket) and lastly based on your other item choice you could possibly use Natalya's (only if going for set bonus as Andarel's IAS and crit is better).

    Shoulders:
    hands down Vile ward - When buying look for 200+ dex and chance to chill on hit (helps with kiting)

    Pants:
    Inna's is a must the 12% run speed and IAS is clutch dont worry bout the low Dex get the 2 pc set and youll make it up.

    Bracers:
    Lacuni prowlers are good if you can fork out the cash for them but its not necessary. Get a rare with 6% crit and as high of dex you can.

    Belt:
    Inna's to go with the pants for the 2 set. or witching hour again it hard to want to fork out the cash for this item but the IAS and crit dmg speaks for its self.

    Wep:
    Manticore hands down. But the 2 socket starts over 100m with no stats. I settled for a 1 socket with high dex, IAS and crit dmg.

    Quiver:
    Dead man's Legacy is the only way to go. Look for somthing close to 20% IAS, 200 + dex (can be over 300), 9.5-10% crit, and the best stat is the ability modifier i went with the % dmg to my hungering arrow.

    Gloves:
    Get A rare with HUGE Dex and crit dmg. 10% crit is a must here, if you can afford it get IAS also.

    Rings:
    Natalya's is good to help with the Set bonus and it has a socket and IAS, Hellfire ring is a given but until then use a Rare with Crit DMG, Crit chance, IAS or a mix

    Chest:
    Natalya's with 3 sockets and a good amount of dex.

    Boot:
    Natalya's with the most dex u can afford.

    Neck:
    Rare with 10% crit chance and get as much crit dmg and dex as you can afford. Also IAS helps if u got the cash.

    Hope this helps.
  • #5
    Quote from Hemptation

    Helm :
    3 choices IMO Andarel's Visage ( 4.5% cirt, 9% IAS, socket) or Mempo of Twilight (shitty version of andarel's as it only has the IAS and socket) and lastly based on your other item choice you could possibly use Natalya's (only if going for set bonus as Andarel's IAS and crit is better).

    Mempo is the best helm hands down. Up to 6% cc with ias, high dex roll, socket and all res. Its vice versa. Andis is the low budget mempo. ;)
  • #6
    OP: I wonder why quitting barbarian because it is still best class to farm with. DHs are fine but WW barb is still miles ahead in terms of speed and efficiency especially on average gear levels.

    As to items, Diabloprogress.com is good source of info. Some of those top DHs--I would focus on those on US or EU servers--have crazy gear that can ispire you...or frustrate you because you will probably never be able to afford it :P

    Mempo vs Andariels: both helms need a random roll to make them good. I wear self-found Mempo (197DEX/10%life/77AR/8IAS) but it lacks the crit. Andariel's Visage have IAS and crit chance but no socket nor any defensive stats. Yes, if you can afford it, you will want to wear Mempo--just heads up it will cost you, one of the guys in top10 DP.com has it for sale for 6 billion starting bid.
  • #7
    Quote from baron01

    OP: I wonder why quitting barbarian because it is still best class to farm with. DHs are fine but WW barb is still miles ahead in terms of speed and efficiency especially on average gear levels.

    As to items, Diabloprogress.com is good source of info. Some of those top DHs--I would focus on those on US or EU servers--have crazy gear that can ispire you...or frustrate you because you will probably never be able to afford it :P

    Mempo vs Andariels: both helms need a random roll to make them good. I wear self-found Mempo (197DEX/10%life/77AR/8IAS) but it lacks the crit. Andariel's Visage have IAS and crit chance but no socket nor any defensive stats. Yes, if you can afford it, you will want to wear Mempo--just heads up it will cost you, one of the guys in top10 DP.com has it for sale for 6 billion starting bid.


    So many wrongs here...
    Andys have both defensive stats AND socket, but all of those are random rolls, as is the cc on a mempo..
    A decent rolled mempo goes for around 4-800m nowadays
  • #8
    Andys is only lv62 and cant roll that high compared to mempo and havin like 3 or 4 wasted affixes.

    http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/item/mempo-of-twilight
    vs.
    http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/item/andariels-visage
  • #9
    Quote from Raz0r_boy

    So many wrongs here...
    Andys have both defensive stats AND socket, but all of those are random rolls, as is the cc on a mempo..
    A decent rolled mempo goes for around 4-800m nowadays


    Come again? Im sure you can check the link above this post to see that you cant have defensive stat and a socket at a single Andariel's Visage. That is unless you count poison resistance as defensive stat...
    I have said it in my post you quoted, you have to make a choice between crit/IAS and high DEX/IAS + AR. Random roll can make Mempo clearly better but you must get lucky or be rich.
  • #10
    You never stated anything about having a socket and a defensive stat at a same time, but on the other hand, yes, poison resist IS a defensive stat (and very interesting if you run a poison monk for example), so is armor wich a andy also can carry (have one myself in the stash). I'm simply pointing out the non-correct fact statement you made that andys don't have defensive stats.
    No, what you have to make a choice about if you want the crit, or the AR, that's basically what it comes down to if you can't afford a mempo with crit..
    And since andy can doubleroll dex, you would also have to make a choice if you want to limit the dex to around 160ish and a socket, or higher but loose the socket.
  • #11
    Well, I'm pretty sure all Manticores also roll a +Poison damage, too, but that may be slicing things a bit too thin. For a 650m build, though, I'd honestly roll 10-20m on a good Andy's with a socket and see how it feels. Mempo is awesome, but Mempo with a good CC roll could eat through this guy's entire budget.

    The socket on Andy's just gives you some added flexibility - you can always toss an emerald in and bam - you've a decent double dex roll - or a ruby for farming - or an amethyst for high MP ubers or w/e.

    At 650m, I think the REAL decision would be whether to pickup a 1250-1350 dps single-socket Manticore with a 90+ CD roll and high dex or try to find a double-socket one. I ran some comparisons through a calculator for myself, and it wasn't clear-cut. You usually give up dex to roll a 2nd socket, and the ones where you don't lose that dex are very expensive - something to think about.

    I can say that Witching Hour would be clear-cut - I don't like Inna's belt at all. I also don't like Inna's Legs, because of the vitality and RA you have to give up for it, but it is BiS for damage, if you can afford or make up for the EHP hit on the rest of your gear. Natalya's Reflection (ring) with CC would be a good piece to grab on that budget, too.

    ^ just my thoughts as I've spent a lot of time recently thinking about gearing. Best of luck - as others have mentioned, 650m will get you a solid set, but you probably won't have any godly pieces.
  • #12
    u all noobs give him a simple answer... go for manticore 2 sock ofc, nice andriel or very exspensive mempho, nata chest , nata ring if u can afford other ring helfire or some rare , nata boots or some pro tip for boots if you want Pm me also quiver is no brainer ,gloves with ias crit chance dmg only if got money , vile ward nice amulet 3-fecta with dex or high dex with CC and CD ,bracer well u knew lacuni , best u can , the witching hour as belt and inna pants with vitality or all resist .
  • #13
    Not really a simple answer to give on 650m, and most top DHs use a spreadsheet to chart upgrades. But, if we're taking shots at each other, you could try breaking your posts into sentences.
  • #14
    Quote from Stede

    Well, I'm pretty sure all Manticores also roll a +Poison damage, too, but that may be slicing things a bit too thin. For a 650m build, though, I'd honestly roll 10-20m on a good Andy's with a socket and see how it feels. Mempo is awesome, but Mempo with a good CC roll could eat through this guy's entire budget.

    The socket on Andy's just gives you some added flexibility - you can always toss an emerald in and bam - you've a decent double dex roll - or a ruby for farming - or an amethyst for high MP ubers or w/e.

    At 650m, I think the REAL decision would be whether to pickup a 1250-1350 dps single-socket Manticore with a 90+ CD roll and high dex or try to find a double-socket one. I ran some comparisons through a calculator for myself, and it wasn't clear-cut. You usually give up dex to roll a 2nd socket, and the ones where you don't lose that dex are very expensive - something to think about.

    I can say that Witching Hour would be clear-cut - I don't like Inna's belt at all. I also don't like Inna's Legs, because of the vitality and RA you have to give up for it, but it is BiS for damage, if you can afford or make up for the EHP hit on the rest of your gear. Natalya's Reflection (ring) with CC would be a good piece to grab on that budget, too.

    ^ just my thoughts as I've spent a lot of time recently thinking about gearing. Best of luck - as others have mentioned, 650m will get you a solid set, but you probably won't have any godly pieces.

    You are right. With like 650mil you are in between getting decent stuff and just not have enough gold to buy one realy bis rolled item. I wouldnt bother with gettin any bad rolled BiS Item at all. Its just not worth it. :) On that budget it would buy

    - New nats helm, chest, boots and ring with decent rolls. 20 max disc is huge for farming fast
    - Some nice vile ward or maybe even just rares with comparable stats
    - Trifactor gloves with high dex, cc and ias. Havin lower ccd isnt that much of a deal
    - Rare ring and neck with cc and ccd, Prefer those with high average dmg on em as well. Its a huge dps boost!
    - Well rolled inna´s pants and either inna´s belt for the dex bonus(cheaper) or a good witching hour(far more expensive)
    - Manticore with 1 open socket, at least 90 ccd and good dex roll. Loosing like +150 wep dps and the dex roll is most of the times not worth going for a 2 socket manticore within the same price range.
    - DML with 20% ias, 10% cc and high dex roll. I wont bother buying one with bonus on elemantel arrow or hungering arrow
    - For high mp uber runs an soj with 30% bonus vs. elites

    200k dps is more then enough to farm fast and efficient mp2 to grind out paragon levels. With the gold left over(should be approx 200mil at at least) i would either snipe a nice upgrade or just flipping items to make some gold. :P
  • #15
    Hey guys. Sorry for the inactivity. I have gotten myself more gold. As my goal is to have a Highest DPS record on Diabloprogress. I worked my ass off day and night to obtain a high salary. Starting this friday.. I will devote myself to leveling this baby.

    I have bought myself 3.9Bil Gold. That costed around 600$

    Anyways. I need to know the BiS for a Dream DH. I checked Diabloprogress. And I searched up those items, but it seems in the NA servers there is scarcely any of these items.
  • #16
    Quote from JoshRawrrs1

    Hey guys. Sorry for the inactivity. I have gotten myself more gold. As my goal is to have a Highest DPS record on Diabloprogress. I worked my ass off day and night to obtain a high salary. Starting this friday.. I will devote myself to leveling this baby.

    I have bought myself 3.9Bil Gold. That costed around 600$

    Anyways. I need to know the BiS for a Dream DH. I checked Diabloprogress. And I searched up those items, but it seems in the NA servers there is scarcely any of these items.

    I dont know if i should laugh or cry..But im not here to judge...The BiS list was posted but again even for like 5bil you wont make it within the top25 or something. The market for nearly perfect bis rolled items is outside the ah and items get traded for way more then 2bil.
  • #17
    I figure out that the hardway. Oh well, I guess I'll spread the gold out in Barb and Demon Hunter.
  • #18
    Its sad but true...If you want a rank top10 char you´ve got four options:

    a.) Make deals via paypal and spend alot of irl money
    b.) Buy alot of gold and get trades outside the ah and spend again lots of irl money
    c.) Farm your ass of and being realy realy lucky with item rolls and find buyers for your drops
    d.) Play the gah and flip items like mad

    I assume for any given class wihtin top10 dps rank you will need like 15-20billion gold. A rank1 char is proberly worth even more. From day to day there is more gold within the game and in the end mediocre/decent items getting cheaper and cheaper cuz so many people grinding paragon and/or farming with nearly/maxed out paragon levels. The BiS rolled items just dont drop that often so they gettin more expensive over time cuz the playerbase havin a kinda high amount of gold gets bigger and bigger.
  • #19
    where the hell did you get 3.9b for $600
  • #20
    I'm currently at place 44 DH eu servers, and 464 dps overall eu, and i can tell you that 6.9 aint gonna get you anywhere near top 10...
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