Balanced DH- Does it exist?

  • #1
    So after playing my casualish DH this entire time Im finding myself only able to afford the common mostly glass cannon style of play. Im really getting rather frustrated with the insta-death at the blink of an eye.

    My question is; Is it worth the millions in gear to gain more survivability? Is the class any less one-shotty with the nicer expensive gear with Dex/Stam/AR or is it still insta death reguardless?

    Im really not interested in the DH tank builds im just curious if the non glass cannon build is really worth the gold sink.
  • #2
    On my current DH running around with 500 AR and a few items with extra armor on i find myself able to take a few more hits before dying, im also at 40k hp. I dont get oneshotted anymore as you refered to - even in a3.
    BUT keep in mind that the DH itself is a more of active mitigation style of play, what i mean by that is that comparred to other classes mostly for us to gain the "same" surviveability we need to actual press those skills ourself. But when it comes to farming i like having more AR, Armor and a vitality since when i farm i like to "slack" abit and not having to worry what is around the corner all the time. Anyways i still have to be carefull as a dh. Im running around with 60k dps without ss atm.

    Regarding your question about buying gear, then it really depends if you like that style of play or not. With highend gear (not my gear) ive seen some quite beefy DH´s able to take hits aswell and farm really fast same time. Like 1 hour ish clears of a3. You can check out Nugiyen´s stream on twitch tv maybe that will answer your questions. Hes running this style of gear on hes DH as i talked about. http://www.twitch.tv/nugiyen
  • #3
    Definitely worth it but not easy to attain. 1.04 should be better, you may still die in 1-hit, but co-op will a lot more forgiving atleast.
    Even with balance, you may only take 2-3 hits. I am doing okay with just 22k hp and 150 ar, reduced melee dmg is actually a godsend. I am actually able to take atleast 1 spear throw if I don't cast gloom fast enough in Act 3. It also does help that I am rocking 4pc natalyza and can spam gloom, but with high dex, I am able to "luckily" dodge a lot of attacks that would otherwise kill me. I would definitely aim for 35k hp, 250 ar, and 50k dps unbuffed. I am know its just people throwing out number, but I think you should be able to survive 2-3 hits with that from MOST monster. Golgons and 2-handed skeletons will still probably own you, and anything with the enrage buff (red glowy) thing will probably hurt a bit. I don't recommend eating any fireballs if you don't have to.

    Smoke Screen and Gloom are definitely your best friend, so stack as much discipline as you can.
    -leirissa | battle.net vanboon#1499 | lvl 60 dh - 4/4 inferno 6/9/12
    profile: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/vanboon-1499/hero/3962228
    http://i.imgur.com/8AfIp.jpg 4/4pc natalyza dps: 73k (w/o ss), dex: 1967, health: 22k, resist: ~150, mf: 90%/261%
  • #4
    Balanced makes things much more relaxed. I can pretty much face tank elites in Act 1, take multiple hits from elites in Act 2 and even take a hit from elites in Act 3. Most Act 4 mobs can still kill me or take me down to almost nothing if I don't manage to dodge or get lucky. I don't die from being 1 shotted by trash mobs in Act 3, anymore. I used to hate being insta killed by crap that I didn't even see.

    It wasn't cheap to gear up and I did it a piece at a time. I know that I got lucky with some good drops and made quite a bit on the AH, but I've been upgrading all my gear with MF and losing a bit of DPS and defense.

    This is a link to my gear. The numbers are a little lower than my normal set because I'm wearing 2 of my farming pieces. I have around 92k dps, 38k health, and 500 AR when I'm wearing my full set.

    http://us.battle.net...27/hero/9876963
  • #5
    stop getting hit
  • #6
    Quote from Ibraz

    So after playing my casualish DH this entire time Im finding myself only able to afford the common mostly glass cannon style of play. Im really getting rather frustrated with the insta-death at the blink of an eye.

    My question is; Is it worth the millions in gear to gain more survivability? Is the class any less one-shotty with the nicer expensive gear with Dex/Stam/AR or is it still insta death reguardless?

    Im really not interested in the DH tank builds im just curious if the non glass cannon build is really worth the gold sink.

    You can withstand hits just fine with ~400 resists, 35k+ health, and ~900loh.
  • #7
    With 400 resist and 40k hps you won't have problems with act 1 and 2 mobs, their dmg is very manageable with these stats(I facetank any act 1 and act 2 elite). Act 3 is different, there are plenty crazy mobs that deal insane damage, I would imagine that you would need around 600 resistance and 50k hps for your survivability to have the same effect as with the act 1 and 2 mobs. This is of course, my guess, my biggest dream is to reach 50k hps, 600AR and 100k dps(w/o SS) with my DH and I am not far in terms of dps, but still need more work in terms of hps and resistances. Right now I am making myself a good MF/Balanced farming set and until I finish this set I won't spend any more gold into my "normal set".
  • #8
    I'm personally also looking to up my stats just "a tad"(currently 120AR/14k hp/65k dps(no ShSh), to allow for a bit more slack during farm runs.

    In any case I'd recommend holding on to your cash until we see how 1.04 pans out. That's what I'm doing at least.
  • #9
    Here is my super balanced DH build:

    http://eu.battle.net...2/hero/12692894

    DPS without SS - 60k

    DPS with SS - 141k

    300 All res

    41k health

    U JELLY ?
  • #10
    Quote from WizArt

    Here is my super balanced DH build:

    http://eu.battle.net...2/hero/12692894

    DPS without SS - 60k

    DPS with SS - 141k

    300 All res

    41k health

    U JELLY ?

    It's hilarious when people make stupid posts. It's even more hilarious when you see that they actually had to edit the stupid post.
  • #11
    Yes, it's way more fun to jump into the fray without worrying about getting gibbed. SS+Vault, clear from the inside. I have 48k HP and 290 resist
  • #12
    Quote from robotwars2

    Quote from WizArt

    Here is my super balanced DH build:

    http://eu.battle.net...2/hero/12692894

    DPS without SS - 60k

    DPS with SS - 141k

    300 All res

    41k health

    U JELLY ?

    It's hilarious when people make stupid posts. It's even more hilarious when you see that they actually had to edit the stupid post.

    Why so jelly ?
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