Tanking Diablo on Inferno (Video Included) by: Cookiee

  • #1
    Video:
    http://youtu.be/SZegSoaKNgU


    Ghom


    Strategy:
    Mark Diablo and use Bat for hatred regen, so you spend the majority of your time shooting rapid fire.
    The reason I picked entangling shot is because of the amount of hatred regen you get. I think it takes about 6 - 7 shots to get full hatred back.
    Use shadow power anytime you are about to take damage.
    Use shadow power when the clones spawn. They hit harder than Diablo does.
    Right Click the boss.

    Rapid Fire:
    Rapid Fire works very strangely with Gloom. When I first used it, it felt like the leech wasn't working at all, so I scrapped this build. I would just use gloom while using rapid fire and I wouldn't regen any health at all. I thought to myself, "Yay for Blizzard, another broken/bugged skill". Later on I did some act 4 with rapid fire with the piercing rune and I noticed something strange. If you use rapid fire after gloom you get the leech, but you also keep it for as long as you are channeling it. For example if I use rapid fire for 30 seconds after using gloom you will maintain 20% life leech even after gloom has gone. It seems like it counts the entire channel of Rapid Fire as one shot. After that I revisited my idea of using it on bosses with ballistics. SS is kind of crappy now and night stalker seems really nice with decent crit chance, and super fast attacks. Put that together and you got yourself a cheesy build for killing bosses.


    Story Mode:
    Going through the game as a Demon Hunter, has always been very scary. You never know what is going to one shot you next. The fallen, the flying sprer, the random bird, or half the time you don't even know what you died to.

    Because of this, I decided to make my demon hunter as tanky as possible, so I never had to run back for 1 minute at a time, to a probably reset blue or yellow pack again. Don't get me wrong, I still die, but no where near as much as in the past. I can actually use potions, and my mercenary is a very good healer.

    At first building resistances, armor, and life was very discouraging.It just seemed to have no effect, but I kept on going in hopes of some sort of returns. When I survived my first fallen hit I was filled with joy. Then came surviving a spear throw, and a fireball. That made my day. The biggest survival I can think of is the birds, that used to hit me for 160k damage. They hit me for about 15-25k now. As I was going through this, I realized why not give my old friend Shadow Power and Gloom a try on Diablo. It took a few tries to get the timings and other things right. My dps is still not where I want it to be, I am still using a bow I got about 1 or 2 weeks ago. Most of my gear is worth more than my bow, which is really sad.

    On a side note, its always nice to tank mobs longer than actual tanks :P.

    Spec:
    Entangling Shot / Justice is Served
    Rapid Fire / Fire Support
    Preparation / Focused Mind
    Marked For Death / Mortal Enemy
    Companion / Bat Companion
    Shadow Power / Gloom
    Passives: Archery / Ballistics/ Night Stalker

    Stats:
    Life: 53712
    Resistances: 602/572/606/672/605/572
    Life Steal / Life per Hit: 0
    Life per Second: 89
    DPS (Non SS, Merc or Steady Aim) 73577.6
    Dexterity / Dodge: 2404 / 44.04%
    Armor / Damage Reduction: 3547 / 54.18%
    Health Globe: 5440!!!

    Gear:
    Coming Soon

    Questions:
    Q: Do you have gloves and rings with IAS/resist/dex/vit!?
    A: I wish I had those gloves that are on the ah for 50-60 million with IAS/Crit Hit/Dex/All Resist/Vit, My gloves are missing the attack speed.

    Q: PS: you said those birds hit you once with 160k now with 15-20k... is this with shadow power or without?
    A: That is without Gloom.

    Q: Btw I can see that you have a few pieces with +armor on them. Do these make any difference?
    A: Yes, at some point armor > resistance in terms of damage reduction. Not point per point, but you get a lot more armor than you do resists on gear.

    Q: How much gold did you spend roughly?
    A: If I were to estimate my gear I would say about 80 million gold. The bow and Vit/Dex ring was given to me and I found the quiver. The rest I pretty much bought on the AH

    Q: How is this for farming, say, 5stack siege/azmo? Do you still need the shadow power or do you change specs for that?
    A: It works fine, you can tank a lot of packs. You will also usually be happy to see spear throwers, since they are very easy to kill. On a side note, you do feel immobile, and you will die just because you think you can tank everything and start feeling too lazy to actually kite.The only times I miss SS is during Siegebreaker and on Azmodan. Well, I did tank Siege, but its somewhat risky. If I had more gear I could tank him without worry. The Azmodan fireballs are a different story, you actually need to move out of them. The pools obviously don't hurt much. Another thing I would mention is that if feels like the old SS because you get 3 seconds vs 1.5. The only problem is that you can spam it, so I would be careful to not accidentally dump all your discipline spamming shadow power. I did try farming Act 4 with this, but Act 4 has so little return on effort. I was hoping Diablo would drop something useful, but he has the same loot table as everyone else.

    Q: I've posted with a question about making money on another thread, but I'm incredibly poor and can't afford better gear. How did you make your 80 million you spent on your spectacular gear?
    A: I farmed act 1, than farmed a tiny bit of act 2, but most of my farming has been done doing SIegebreaker/Azmodan. Initially when I did get to act 3, my group just farmed first 2 parts of Stonefront. Then I accidentally found out that Tyriel was killing mobs for me. This was before everyone knew about it.

    Q: so this is also your spec to farm? how do you deal with those elite packs without ss (im so used to ssing out of "oh shit situations", cant imagine not having that)? simply tank (w/ gloom constantly up) and shoot? Does that work for tower/azmo runs?
    Would you say that perfectionist is a must have for that build?
    A: You can tank a lot of packs with Gloom, some are just mean though. Say jailer + vortex + firechain + lazers. Gloom is still a damage reduction and the beams still hit extremely hard. It depends on packs. Some are easier with SS some are easier with gloom.

    Q: did you try classic ss/prep/bat spec with your gear? if yes, how did that work for you - do you actually need the 65% with so much resi/armor?
    A: I did play the ss/prep/bat build, and I still sometimes do. They both work well. I did my first Inferno clear as glass cannon. It was not fun, and it was very painful. I just tried my best to try and figure out a better way to do it, because getting 1 shot by everything is probably not the way the game is supposed to be played.

    Q: Since you can take a couple of hits with this build, what can you say about using Fan of Knives/Retaliate? It seems like a nice addition to your build if you can make a spare spell slot.
    A: It's not a bad idea, but I enjoy vault so much. I did find an amazing skill for glass cannons, which is funny and sad at the same time. Spec into Grenadier instead of steady aim. On my char I have had it explode for as much as 650k. That was back at 150k dps.

    Q: How long have you played so far?
    A: It says 540 hours, but I leave the game on when I sleep. I would guess about 250-300.
  • #2
    Wow interesting post! Gonna give Shadow Power/Gloom a try when hitting up Inferno Diablo next time ;)

    What's your attack speed like? Your attacks seem pretty fast.
  • #3
    I will just be updating my main topic to answer any questions.

    Attack speed is at 2.27.
  • #4
    Nice man! You actually just made this game a lot more enjoyable for me. Previously I was going max damage and getting 1 shot by everything... I felt like there was no point playing because I could get harder hitting gear but it didn't solve the 1 shot problem.

    Do you have gloves and rings with IAS/resist/dex/vit!? Your gear is pretty baller
  • #5
    holy crap i want to see your items...
    maybe you can post them? because i guess you got some insane dix/vit/allres/... items

    i am a pure glascannon right now. and it kinda sux to die with every little hit. but i build my glascannon to farm a3 siegebreaker.
    and i always wanted to go a little more tanky. but i wasnt sure if resis and hp are worth on a DH. but now that you say you can survive some insane attacks (birds), i will go DEFINITLY for those items... but they are pricy.... :D

    PS: you said those birds hit you once with 160k now with 15-20k... is this with shadow power or without?
  • #6
    You da boss man.
  • #7
    Amazing stuff right there, however, it must be said that your gear is absolutely rocking. Your defensive stats are insane bar bit lowish HP yet you still sport very solid offense. Looking at just the summary of your stats, It is more than clear not many people will be able to mimick what you did simply due to missing gear. You still give hope to those that do not want to be one-shot anytime cool breeze blow their way.

    I always went particularly tanky, always seeking dex/vit stats on my gear. I'm nowhere near your stats but I can take melee hit or two from most small white mobs in Act 2. Any projectiles apart from arrows will 1-shot me of course.
  • #8
    how do you have 147K damage with SS on a bad bow? It must deal over 1100K damage your bow.
  • #9
    Cookiee can you please post each pieces of your gear please? I want to see how it is possible that you achieved such high dps without giving up res and vit. I've tried to do a similar gearing as yours, but my resistances only go up to 300 each without sacrificing dps (at 50k no ss right now). Also how is your ss so high? If I do pure dps, no res/vit build, my ss maxes out around 145k.


    Please post pics of your gear :)

    Final question is, how much did it cost you to put together that gear? I've already spent like 15 million...but most of the gear that would bring you up to those stats go for 10 million EACH piece.
  • #10
    Quote from Junbo1918

    how do you have 147K damage with SS on a bad bow? It must deal over 1100K damage your bow.

    My guess would be he has a lot of +crit hit damage items. These items heavily inflate your character sheet DPS. It is a common approach nowdays to use build with Sharpshooter passive and lots of +crit hit damage. This allows for heavy initial burst with SS fully stacked.
    It is even more intriguing due to fact Cookiee seems to use bow based on my visual observation, which suggest he has lot of items with extra damage on crit since he is missing Archery crossbow bonus.
  • #11
    Well I know what I want to be when I grow up.
  • #12
    This is the direction that I wish to go as well. DPS is still insane compaired to other classes and the added hp / resists will most likely make a difference when PvP turns up. All the glass canons that get oneshot dont stand a chance against those barb/monks that are fully stacked on hp/resists.

    To bad these items are going to cost a fortune.. and you have to invest A LOT before it actually starts working.

    *EDIT*

    Btw I can see that you have a few pieces with +armor on them. Do these make any difference? Or did the items that you were looking for just happen to have that stat as well?
  • #13
    I'm holding onto my resist all stuff just in case, though this type of idea really can't be done without nearly every piece. You have a time limit against elites, unlike diablo who you can simply kite, and even 54k dps spammed through 6 glooms is just barely enough to handle some of the later elites in the game, and it's nothing you can't do with 6 smoke screens and higher damage alternatively.

    The gear is way too expensive for me right now, but very cool nonetheless.
    The strong must rule if we are to survive.
  • #14
    Very nice, tempted to try this myself.

    How much gold did you spend roughly?

    How is this for farming, say, 5stack siege/azmo? Do you still need the shadow power or do you change specs for that?
  • #15
    This gives me hope also. Its kinda annoying to be one shot every time a mob looks at you.

    How are you doing when farming. Can you tank just as well there?
  • #16
    Definitely trying this. Thanks for the tips and very good find, good job man.
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  • #17
    That's it. As someone who constantly plays with 250ms, that's exactly what I need when dodging stuff is so difficult. Awesome.
  • #18
    Thanks for the answers. I guess move speed boots are on your list eventually!
  • #19
    so this is also your spec to farm? how do you deal with those elite packs without ss (im so used to ssing out of "oh shit situations", cant imagine not having that)? simply tank (w/ gloom constantly up) and shoot? Does that work for tower/azmo runs?
    Would you say that perfectionist is a must have for that build?

    did you try classic ss/prep/bat spec with your gear? if yes, how did that work for you - do you actually need the 65% with so much resi/armor?

    sry for that many questions but im trying to get away from the glasscannon style and im really interested in your build/experiences
  • #20
    I've posted with a question about making money on another thread, but I'm incredibly poor and can't afford better gear. How did you make your 80 million you spent on your spectacular gear?
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