Hey guys, alot of people have been arguing this since the game came out and I thought I would share my take on it with you guys. Feedback/suggestions and tips would be awesome! Cheers!
...So you made a video you decided to share with nothing but your opinions, and alot of flawed... "arguments", I guess they are.
Just to clarify a few things -
You don't crit like a truck because you're using an Xbow specificly. You crit higher because it gives you 50% more dmg on your crits. Which is, all in all, not alot. There's also a mathematical point where the 50% crit dmg is both weaker and stronger than 15% raw damage - this breakpoint would be at 30% crit chance (30% chance means 30 out of every 100 hits crit for 50% more dmg, giving you a 15% dmg increase).
You also completly forget to mention that the 1hand crossbows provide a 10% crit bonus from archery instead of 50% crit dmg or 15% raw damage.
You claim that the 1hand crossbow burns through your hatred "really fast", but you forget to consider the fact that you will regen the spent hatred equally as fast by firing off your hatred generator (if it takes 20 secs to unload with a crossbow and 20 secs to refill, then it'll take 15 secs to unload and refill with a hand crossbow, simple logic) - there's really no difference, except you might have to refill your hatred bar instead of rely on it to have killed everything when it's depleted, but sustained damage will result in the same time spent regenning/spending as any other weapon type.
You spent half a minute going over how "cool" each item looks.
You skip over the reasoning behind the fact that every proper demon hunter prefers a crossbow (stutter-step kiting).
Yes, cold dmg WILL proc Cull the weak. No, you shouldn't use a cold dmg wep unless you get *the* top tier cold dmg wep, as cold dmg has smaller dmg affix ranges than any other affix (meaning they will do much less dps).
If you want to be informative, you can either make a general video that lasts two minutes, and get it right (crossbows has the most reliable dmg, are slowest so they are best for kiting, etc), or spend some time actually considering what you're going to say and research what you are claiming.
...So you made a video you decided to share with nothing but your opinions, and alot of flawed... "arguments", I guess they are.
Just to clarify a few things -
You don't crit like a truck because you're using an Xbow specificly. You crit higher because it gives you 50% more dmg on your crits. Which is, all in all, not alot. There's also a mathematical point where the 50% crit dmg is both weaker and stronger than 15% raw damage - this breakpoint would be at 30% crit chance (30% chance means 30 out of every 100 hits crit for 50% more dmg, giving you a 15% dmg increase).
You also completly forget to mention that the 1hand crossbows provide a 10% crit bonus from archery instead of 50% crit dmg or 15% raw damage.
You claim that the 1hand crossbow burns through your hatred "really fast", but you forget to consider the fact that you will regen the spent hatred equally as fast by firing off your hatred generator (if it takes 20 secs to unload with a crossbow and 20 secs to refill, then it'll take 15 secs to unload and refill with a hand crossbow, simple logic) - there's really no difference, except you might have to refill your hatred bar instead of rely on it to have killed everything when it's depleted, but sustained damage will result in the same time spent regenning/spending as any other weapon type.
You spent half a minute going over how "cool" each item looks.
You skip over the reasoning behind the fact that every proper demon hunter prefers a crossbow (stutter-step kiting).
Yes, cold dmg WILL proc Cull the weak. No, you shouldn't use a cold dmg wep unless you get *the* top tier cold dmg wep, as cold dmg has smaller dmg affix ranges than any other affix (meaning they will do much less dps).
If you want to be informative, you can either make a general video that lasts two minutes, and get it right (crossbows has the most reliable dmg, are slowest so they are best for kiting, etc), or spend some time actually considering what you're going to say and research what you are claiming.
after reading the first few lines of your response. i realized you are a very rude troll and it would be a waste to continue to read it.
how about some polite suggestions/tips? rather then just try and cut me down.
non the less, you gotta cheer up my friend.
I have stated alot of what I find stupid about your video. If you want it dumbed down to one simple explanation, then be my guest:
You lack any kind of actual mathematical evidence to explain what is better/worse, and at which point WHY it is is better/worse. Instead, you ramble on for five minutes with personal preference, while still failing to grasp the basic idea's behind the DH damage system.
If you think I'm a troll, then so be it. Still, I'm not the guy making youtube video's to "help other people" by filling them with misinformation and good intentions.
...So you made a video you decided to share with nothing but your opinions, and alot of flawed... "arguments", I guess they are.
Just to clarify a few things -
You don't crit like a truck because you're using an Xbow specificly. You crit higher because it gives you 50% more dmg on your crits. Which is, all in all, not alot. There's also a mathematical point where the 50% crit dmg is both weaker and stronger than 15% raw damage - this breakpoint would be at 30% crit chance (30% chance means 30 out of every 100 hits crit for 50% more dmg, giving you a 15% dmg increase).
You also completly forget to mention that the 1hand crossbows provide a 10% crit bonus from archery instead of 50% crit dmg or 15% raw damage.
You claim that the 1hand crossbow burns through your hatred "really fast", but you forget to consider the fact that you will regen the spent hatred equally as fast by firing off your hatred generator (if it takes 20 secs to unload with a crossbow and 20 secs to refill, then it'll take 15 secs to unload and refill with a hand crossbow, simple logic) - there's really no difference, except you might have to refill your hatred bar instead of rely on it to have killed everything when it's depleted, but sustained damage will result in the same time spent regenning/spending as any other weapon type.
You spent half a minute going over how "cool" each item looks.
You skip over the reasoning behind the fact that every proper demon hunter prefers a crossbow (stutter-step kiting).
Yes, cold dmg WILL proc Cull the weak. No, you shouldn't use a cold dmg wep unless you get *the* top tier cold dmg wep, as cold dmg has smaller dmg affix ranges than any other affix (meaning they will do much less dps).
If you want to be informative, you can either make a general video that lasts two minutes, and get it right (crossbows has the most reliable dmg, are slowest so they are best for kiting, etc), or spend some time actually considering what you're going to say and research what you are claiming.
after reading the first few lines of your response. i realized you are a very rude troll and it would be a waste to continue to read it.
how about some polite suggestions/tips? rather then just try and cut me down.
non the less, you gotta cheer up my friend.
While the straight cutting down imo is defiantly rude, draco makes extremely good points.
At the end of the day it all comes to personal preference and build anyway. I have used all 3 with different builds focused on different things with sucess. For example, most DHs aren't going to tank with a crossbow or use it in a LOH built. Most DHs are also not going to use a 1H Xbow for a cluster nuke build.
I would argue that there is not one weapon type that is right for everyone so when people post these debates it really is completely situational and there is no mathematical rhyme or rythym to it.
First and for most, you pick a weapon type for the build you want to play. After that just use the DPS calculator.
...So you made a video you decided to share with nothing but your opinions, and alot of flawed... "arguments", I guess they are.
Just to clarify a few things -
You don't crit like a truck because you're using an Xbow specificly. You crit higher because it gives you 50% more dmg on your crits. Which is, all in all, not alot. There's also a mathematical point where the 50% crit dmg is both weaker and stronger than 15% raw damage - this breakpoint would be at 30% crit chance (30% chance means 30 out of every 100 hits crit for 50% more dmg, giving you a 15% dmg increase).
You also completly forget to mention that the 1hand crossbows provide a 10% crit bonus from archery instead of 50% crit dmg or 15% raw damage.
You claim that the 1hand crossbow burns through your hatred "really fast", but you forget to consider the fact that you will regen the spent hatred equally as fast by firing off your hatred generator (if it takes 20 secs to unload with a crossbow and 20 secs to refill, then it'll take 15 secs to unload and refill with a hand crossbow, simple logic) - there's really no difference, except you might have to refill your hatred bar instead of rely on it to have killed everything when it's depleted, but sustained damage will result in the same time spent regenning/spending as any other weapon type.
You spent half a minute going over how "cool" each item looks.
You skip over the reasoning behind the fact that every proper demon hunter prefers a crossbow (stutter-step kiting).
Yes, cold dmg WILL proc Cull the weak. No, you shouldn't use a cold dmg wep unless you get *the* top tier cold dmg wep, as cold dmg has smaller dmg affix ranges than any other affix (meaning they will do much less dps).
If you want to be informative, you can either make a general video that lasts two minutes, and get it right (crossbows has the most reliable dmg, are slowest so they are best for kiting, etc), or spend some time actually considering what you're going to say and research what you are claiming.
after reading the first few lines of your response. i realized you are a very rude troll and it would be a waste to continue to read it.
how about some polite suggestions/tips? rather then just try and cut me down.
non the less, you gotta cheer up my friend.
While the straight cutting down imo is defiantly rude, draco makes extremely good points.
Pretty much this. We'd all prefer everyone says nice things all the time, but especially on the internet you're probably not going to get that. In any case doing the research and providing the math will at least show people proof that what you're saying is correct. If it is not correct, then people can immdiately find the flaw in your argument and correct it.
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Just to clarify a few things -
You don't crit like a truck because you're using an Xbow specificly. You crit higher because it gives you 50% more dmg on your crits. Which is, all in all, not alot. There's also a mathematical point where the 50% crit dmg is both weaker and stronger than 15% raw damage - this breakpoint would be at 30% crit chance (30% chance means 30 out of every 100 hits crit for 50% more dmg, giving you a 15% dmg increase).
You also completly forget to mention that the 1hand crossbows provide a 10% crit bonus from archery instead of 50% crit dmg or 15% raw damage.
You claim that the 1hand crossbow burns through your hatred "really fast", but you forget to consider the fact that you will regen the spent hatred equally as fast by firing off your hatred generator (if it takes 20 secs to unload with a crossbow and 20 secs to refill, then it'll take 15 secs to unload and refill with a hand crossbow, simple logic) - there's really no difference, except you might have to refill your hatred bar instead of rely on it to have killed everything when it's depleted, but sustained damage will result in the same time spent regenning/spending as any other weapon type.
You spent half a minute going over how "cool" each item looks.
You skip over the reasoning behind the fact that every proper demon hunter prefers a crossbow (stutter-step kiting).
Yes, cold dmg WILL proc Cull the weak. No, you shouldn't use a cold dmg wep unless you get *the* top tier cold dmg wep, as cold dmg has smaller dmg affix ranges than any other affix (meaning they will do much less dps).
If you want to be informative, you can either make a general video that lasts two minutes, and get it right (crossbows has the most reliable dmg, are slowest so they are best for kiting, etc), or spend some time actually considering what you're going to say and research what you are claiming.
after reading the first few lines of your response. i realized you are a very rude troll and it would be a waste to continue to read it.
how about some polite suggestions/tips? rather then just try and cut me down.
non the less, you gotta cheer up my friend.
My D3 Character: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Loras-1351/hero/29537054
What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger.
You lack any kind of actual mathematical evidence to explain what is better/worse, and at which point WHY it is is better/worse. Instead, you ramble on for five minutes with personal preference, while still failing to grasp the basic idea's behind the DH damage system.
If you think I'm a troll, then so be it. Still, I'm not the guy making youtube video's to "help other people" by filling them with misinformation and good intentions.
While the straight cutting down imo is defiantly rude, draco makes extremely good points.
Pretty much this. We'd all prefer everyone says nice things all the time, but especially on the internet you're probably not going to get that. In any case doing the research and providing the math will at least show people proof that what you're saying is correct. If it is not correct, then people can immdiately find the flaw in your argument and correct it.