Best Chest?

  • #1
    Natalya's gives potential for a set bonus (7% Crit) with the ring (only good piece that I can see), although the rings are extremely expensive.

    Tyrael's Might has movement speed and can be found with decent Dex.

    The Inquisitor can have OK bonuses (Impale Hatred reduced) and also has movement speed.

    Thoughts?
  • #2
    3 socket Beckon Sail. 13% attack speed, 1% crit chance, up to 111 dex w/o gems.
  • #3
    Basically at the high end you're either running with andariels/beckon sail, or the nats set. If you look for good rolls on stats, the nats set is just as good or even better than anything else you can get out there because of the set bonuses. 7% crit is good, 130 dex is great, and .41 discipline/second is godly with a large discipline pool, since you can't find discipline regen anywhere else.
  • #4
    What type of prices do some of those items fall under
  • #5
    You can get nats chest/helm for 1-2m each. Getting +disc on nats chest will cost you a lot though...

    Nat's Ring is around 5m for low-mid end rolls.

    I don't really know offhand for the ias gear as it fluctuates a bit for decent rolls.
  • #6
    160 Dex Cloak + 3 Sockets... Beckon Sail with 3 Sockets would be awesome, but not that much of an Upgrade (at elast not for 20 mil).

    I think a 3 Socket Chest can roll up to 180 Dex though
  • #7
    Beckon Sail is best-cheapest choice, good beckon sails cost though.

    If you want absolute best combo, then you want Natalya's chest, boots and ring all with sick DEX on them and preferably +max discipline on chest. But getting boots with enough dex and a ring with enough dex to make it worth it is hard.

    Never use Natalya's helmet over Andariels Visage.
  • #8
    Quote from Inferis

    Beckon Sail is best-cheapest choice, good beckon sails cost though.

    If you want absolute best combo, then you want Natalya's chest, boots and ring all with sick DEX on them and preferably +max discipline on chest. But getting boots with enough dex and a ring with enough dex to make it worth it is hard.

    Never use Natalya's helmet over Andariels Visage.


    Disagree. On a one to one comparison, Andariels is better, but not by much. A nats helm with a high roll will have 20 more dex and 5% chance to fear on hit is nothing to sneeze at. Andariels will give you more dps because of the IAS, but this advantage will soon be narrowed once IAS is nerfed. Andariels also gives 3% crit, but then 2 pieces of nats already gives you 7% crit. So on a 1 to 1 basis, Andariels post ias nerf will have a slight advantage.

    But if you consider nat's set as a whole, the 4 piece bonus blows anything else out of the water, and you can't have the 4 piece bonus unless you wear nat's helm (unless you wanna use the crossbow ... lol) . A 42% increase in discipline regeneration literally cannot be matched by anything else you can get. You can get dex, ias, crit chance, whatever else stat from many other slots and gear pieces. There is nothing else out there than can give you discipline regeneration.
  • #9
    Quote from Lucidity

    Quote from Inferis

    Beckon Sail is best-cheapest choice, good beckon sails cost though.

    If you want absolute best combo, then you want Natalya's chest, boots and ring all with sick DEX on them and preferably +max discipline on chest. But getting boots with enough dex and a ring with enough dex to make it worth it is hard.

    Never use Natalya's helmet over Andariels Visage.


    Disagree. On a one to one comparison, Andariels is better, but not by much. A nats helm with a high roll will have 20 more dex and 5% chance to fear on hit is nothing to sneeze at. Andariels will give you more dps because of the IAS, but this advantage will soon be narrowed once IAS is nerfed. Andariels also gives 3% crit, but then 2 pieces of nats already gives you 7% crit. So on a 1 to 1 basis, Andariels post ias nerf will have a slight advantage.

    But if you consider nat's set as a whole, the 4 piece bonus blows anything else out of the water, and you can't have the 4 piece bonus unless you wear nat's helm (unless you wanna use the crossbow ... lol) . A 42% increase in discipline regeneration literally cannot be matched by anything else you can get. You can get dex, ias, crit chance, whatever else stat from many other slots and gear pieces. There is nothing else out there than can give you discipline regeneration.


    I don't agree, I'd rather have the DPS and the attack speed nerf (if it comes through) won't be that bad. I'd only use chest, ring, boots with high dex rolls if I were to switch Beckon Sail, the math backs this up - only reason to get helmet is to get the next set bonus in line after 130 dex which you spoke about - not for the DPS gain.
  • #10
    Quote from Inferis

    Quote from Lucidity

    Quote from Inferis

    Beckon Sail is best-cheapest choice, good beckon sails cost though.

    If you want absolute best combo, then you want Natalya's chest, boots and ring all with sick DEX on them and preferably +max discipline on chest. But getting boots with enough dex and a ring with enough dex to make it worth it is hard.

    Never use Natalya's helmet over Andariels Visage.


    Disagree. On a one to one comparison, Andariels is better, but not by much. A nats helm with a high roll will have 20 more dex and 5% chance to fear on hit is nothing to sneeze at. Andariels will give you more dps because of the IAS, but this advantage will soon be narrowed once IAS is nerfed. Andariels also gives 3% crit, but then 2 pieces of nats already gives you 7% crit. So on a 1 to 1 basis, Andariels post ias nerf will have a slight advantage.

    But if you consider nat's set as a whole, the 4 piece bonus blows anything else out of the water, and you can't have the 4 piece bonus unless you wear nat's helm (unless you wanna use the crossbow ... lol) . A 42% increase in discipline regeneration literally cannot be matched by anything else you can get. You can get dex, ias, crit chance, whatever else stat from many other slots and gear pieces. There is nothing else out there than can give you discipline regeneration.


    I don't agree, I'd rather have the DPS and the attack speed nerf (if it comes through) won't be that bad. I'd only use chest, ring, boots with high dex rolls if I were to switch Beckon Sail, the math backs this up - only reason to get helmet is to get the next set bonus in line after 130 dex which you spoke about - not for the DPS gain.


    You are ignoring my point. My point isn't about dps. If we are only talking about dps, the beckon/Andariels combo wins -- i concede this (this assumption is contingent on the IAS nerf being inconsequential, we don't know this). The point I'm making is that the 4 piece nats bonus more than covers for the negligible dps advantage that the beckon/andariels combo provides. It's really hard to explain how useful an extra .42 discipline a second is until you try to play without it.
  • #11
    Natalyas chest with +10 discipline as the random affix. Then pick up a nat's ring for the 2 piece bonus.
  • #12
    I really hope the IAS nerf is a diminishing returns type so we can use other gear without tossing every ammy and ring i find on the AH since they dont have IAS
  • #13
    I currently use a rare 148 dex with 2 sockets at 40 dex each, but really want something with higher max disc. or disc. regen, All well and good good having firepower but discipline is so necessary in inferno.
  • #14
    Quote from Machete

    I currently use a rare 148 dex with 2 sockets at 40 dex each, but really want something with higher max disc. or disc. regen, All well and good good having firepower but discipline is so necessary in inferno.


    I replaced my +10 Disc chest with a 2 socket Beckon Sail that I got for an insane deal and to be honest, once your DPS hits 50k+, you'll need to use SS less because things die faster. There are some times I miss being able to SS 6 times, but it's not a requirement in my opinion once you have higher DPS. At 35k DPS, having that extra SS was a godsend.
  • #15
    Archon Armor Rare
    3 Socket
    200 vit
    200 dex
    80 all res
    1 hatred regen

    or same with 10 max discipline

    Not sure how high double vit, dex, vit+dex can roll, but I have seen stats above 200 on chests.
  • #16
    can hatred regen and max disc mods spawn on normal chest armor? i thought they are only found on dh cloaks
  • #17
    Yeah, but this is the Demon Hunter forum after all.
  • #18
    Quote from Cookiee

    Archon Armor Rare
    3 Socket
    200 vit
    200 dex
    80 all res
    10 max discipline

    or same with 1 hatred regen
    Not sure how high double vit, dex, vit+dex can roll, but I have seen stats above 200 on chests.


    *drool*
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