Edit in reply to comment above me: 150% more damage, but that's on top of all the existing bonus damage from discipline. It kind of depends on how much discipline you'll have in total on your final gear...
Edit in reply to comment above me: 150% more damage, but that's on top of all the existing bonus damage from discipline. It kind of depends on how much discipline you'll have in total on your final gear...
Max discipline is always preferred if you intend to use this weapon with the Unhallowed Essence set. Without legacy items or Manald Heal you have a maximum of 30 + 15 + 3x12 = 81 discipline (1215% bonus), without any discipline on the weapon 69 discipline (1035%). 1215/1035 = 1,174 - clearly more than what you would get if you rerolled 10% damage, and even better if you don't have perfect discipline rolls on everything (yet), or if you have average damage on your rings. Likewise, you would never want to reroll the damage range if you lack discipline because the difference between the max dps roll (3120) compared to the min dps roll (2720) is 3120/2720 = 1,147 (for ancient Kriders, nonancients have a spread of ~17% so you would still prefer max disc even in the worst case). Also, the max discipline becomes more valuable when you don't permanently have 100% discipline because you can benefit from a larger damage boost during that time
Actually I didn't account for the fact that on top of the 1215% bonus, you already deal 100%, so it's 1315% in total. But it doesn't matter much for your rerolls.
The real math is:
1315/1135 = 1,1586 (81 max disc vs 69 max disc)
This means that for nonancient Kriders, you could in fact get a bigger benefit if you get close to a minimum roll on your dps and manage to reroll it close to max and you already have at least ~68 discipline (~1% more dps than 12 disc). This is an extreme case (and probably no one would want to use that kind of weapon anyway), also keep in mind you still don't have full discipline 100% of the time, and if you ever shoot a little when missing even ~1-2 disc you will already have a bigger benefit from rerolling to max disc.
it seemed like a better option to reroll secondary into disc anyway i just wasnt 100% sure of it but thanks for explaining everything <3 and one more thing about strongarm bracers if u roll knockback on it is the proc working or not ? or it depends on a spell u are using.
The only Krider I've ever gotten I messed up and rolled the socket to AS. It had 10% already. Feel so dumb, but it was late and I wasn't thinking. Also messed up my first UE chest.
The only Krider I've ever gotten I messed up and rolled the socket to AS. It had 10% already. Feel so dumb, but it was late and I wasn't thinking. Also messed up my first UE chest.
tt well if it was nonancient its gonna drop again gl
Until they patch Kridershot to drop without a socket max discipline and damage will have to be a trade decision. Which sucks because you lose out on a stat if you can't roll off the socket for a secondary stat.
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what should i reroll here
hmm but u get like 150% dmg if i reroll the secondary into 12 disc
You sure about that? Discipline on secondary might yield more damage. I'd use a calculator to make sure. Tough choice in any case.
Check here maybe: http://sentrycalc.dawg6.com/sentry-web/
Edit in reply to comment above me: 150% more damage, but that's on top of all the existing bonus damage from discipline. It kind of depends on how much discipline you'll have in total on your final gear...
thanks il check it now
Max discipline is always preferred if you intend to use this weapon with the Unhallowed Essence set. Without legacy items or Manald Heal you have a maximum of 30 + 15 + 3x12 = 81 discipline (1215% bonus), without any discipline on the weapon 69 discipline (1035%). 1215/1035 = 1,174 - clearly more than what you would get if you rerolled 10% damage, and even better if you don't have perfect discipline rolls on everything (yet), or if you have average damage on your rings. Likewise, you would never want to reroll the damage range if you lack discipline because the difference between the max dps roll (3120) compared to the min dps roll (2720) is 3120/2720 = 1,147 (for ancient Kriders, nonancients have a spread of ~17% so you would still prefer max disc even in the worst case). Also, the max discipline becomes more valuable when you don't permanently have 100% discipline because you can benefit from a larger damage boost during that time
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You critted me waaaay too much with your math skills
Actually I didn't account for the fact that on top of the 1215% bonus, you already deal 100%, so it's 1315% in total. But it doesn't matter much for your rerolls.
The real math is:
1315/1135 = 1,1586 (81 max disc vs 69 max disc)
This means that for nonancient Kriders, you could in fact get a bigger benefit if you get close to a minimum roll on your dps and manage to reroll it close to max and you already have at least ~68 discipline (~1% more dps than 12 disc). This is an extreme case (and probably no one would want to use that kind of weapon anyway), also keep in mind you still don't have full discipline 100% of the time, and if you ever shoot a little when missing even ~1-2 disc you will already have a bigger benefit from rerolling to max disc.
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it seemed like a better option to reroll secondary into disc anyway i just wasnt 100% sure of it but thanks for explaining everything <3 and one more thing about strongarm bracers if u roll knockback on it is the proc working or not ? or it depends on a spell u are using.
The only Krider I've ever gotten I messed up and rolled the socket to AS. It had 10% already. Feel so dumb, but it was late and I wasn't thinking. Also messed up my first UE chest.
tt well if it was nonancient its gonna drop again gl
so even a non anceint kinder with 12 dis will be good to use?
Until they patch Kridershot to drop without a socket max discipline and damage will have to be a trade decision. Which sucks because you lose out on a stat if you can't roll off the socket for a secondary stat.