so I heard lightning Demon Hunter is not a build you could play in hardcore. A few months ago, after my initial success with the build in softcore, I set out on a mission to prove the naysayers wrong. It was clear to me from the get go that this is what it would take to be at the top of the ladder, and being a nonseason softcore player with only occasional trips to the hardcore world, I was slowly forming my character to do so. Now with the patch just around the corner, the incoming lightning “nerfs” and the possibility for every DH to go much higher than 42 (even in hardcore) pretty easily and without as much danger involved, it was clear to me that I was pressed on time to do this. Initally, I was planning to farm to paragon 400 at least (I am at 333 as of this video), getting my Taskers, getting some other good stuff and then beat the shit out of tier 44-45. Being nowhere close to the best equipped demon hunters in hardcore (those paragon 600 and up with few if any deaths), I needed to take advantage of a build that would allow me to outpace everyone else, just as I did with the lightning build in softcore before. My plans, however, were bound to fail due to the time limitations I have ingame and outside of it, so I was forced to just go all in and try to make best use of the items I had (which are pretty shitty honestly, I will show them at the end of the video along with my paragon distribution). Unfortunately I had to invest a lot into attack speed to reach the 2.842 breakpoint, even more than I would need to invest for the 4.154 breakpoint if I had a mediocre Taskers roll. Along with the steep cdr requirements (I wanted to chain ss without Gogok for dangerous situations), this really lowered my dps by a lot, so I had to resort to clearing lower tiers to compensate.
It is clear to me that this will not stay a record for long because of the patch, but who would have expected Blizzard to make such a move. This rank was done for proving a point: lightning demon hunter has been there all along in hardcore (even if it’s only me). It was also clear that I would not stay the only one after something like that happens, because other people naturally will try to get to the top at the end of the season, and they would have to resort to playing lightning in any case. (Damn you Blizzard, I wanted to make everyone suicide themselves in the hopes of breaking my record!). In fact, some people have already been trying to do so during the season, but none have succeeded so far (apart from Mongobiene, who held the previous rank 1 – but he wasn’t playing with zero toughness and rather went for raw strength and survival).
To anyone new to this build, you could check out my old thread for some further general information [Link]
This particular run was really good in terms of density and I used a conduit to kill the RG (2:30 to spare would have been easily enough for Blighter tier 42). I also procced my awareness once near the end on a nasty reflect pack, which I then had to kill of all by itself to not risk making any further mistakes. This was my fourth tier 42 run, I had three tier 43 tries, two of which I had to abandon immediately and one in which I was progressing to 90% ahead of the timer until I hit an empty map with two unskippable elite packs. The keys were farmed today in 3p with <GN> Desolacer and <RIP> T3nno, whom I’d like to thank for their time and support as well as taking the risk to do the trials without a WD; it’s very difficult to find people for “high” level trials on hardcore these days, especially without having the benefits and logistics of a hardcore clan at my disposal. I’d also like to thank <RIP> Drahque and <RIP> Drui for leveling me and the <RIP> clan in general for helping me out a little in T6 until I was able to run it quickly enough myself (by inviting me to their community).
To everyone who might have been missing me and my stream: I have been mostly inactive for some two months now and still will be for some weeks, as I’m busy writing my term papers and preparing other things that are related to university. I’ll be back, see you in season 2 and I'll do my best to entertain you then as well =)
How you handled that final pack was just incredible. "Reflect, electrified, thunderstorm, my awareness procced - yeah, let's just go full crazy and kill that pack". 99.9% of players would've ported out to wait for awareness to be back up (including me, that's why I don't play HC).
How you handled that final pack was just incredible. "Reflect, electrified, thunderstorm, my awareness procced - yeah, let's just go full crazy and kill that pack". 99.9% of players would've ported out to wait for awareness to be back up (including me, that's why I don't play HC).
Congratz, absolutely amazing feat!
Thanks all
Yeah, that last pack really was close to worst case, the teleporter is pretty bad as well. Probably only a waller affix could have made it even more difficult here. I'm not going to let that take away my time though - it is valuable at times
True, people on hc seem to die fairly quickly on their DHs. I died as well once before with 25h played while gearing up (some months ago), but aside from a little kickstart the items aquired from this character where not really helping me much here, and I also made the bulk of paragon with this one (~150-333 or so). Also, consider I had to relevel all the gems etc.
Also, as specified in the initial post, my point proven was about solo play only, in parties lightning DH is much more common, that's true. More specifically I was referring to the zero toughness version of it, hence why I mentioned Mongobiene (who used 15m+ toughness and a unity afaik). The thing is, not even this amount of toughness will help you in tier 45+, and since this was my goal initally, I decided to play just the same on a lower tier due to my missing dps (and the other reasons I mentioned).
Nice, though grifts are all about RNG, that's why they are irrelevant for your skill. Up to this day, I never got into the ladder frenzy.
This is one of the most stupid fallacies people who don't compete in leaderboards like to say to make themselves feel better. It absolutely takes skill. I bet 95% of people who got the rift he did, wouldn't have finished it in time. They would have died or played it too safe since its hc.
This is one of the most stupid fallacies people who don't compete in leaderboards like to say to make themselves feel better. It absolutely takes skill. I bet 95% of people who got the rift he did, wouldn't have finished it in time. They would have died or played it too safe since its hc.
Thanks, couldn't agree more. GRs are the best tool that we have so far to measure any concept of skill. It's true that a lot of things rely on luck and RNG (but so do my missing items), still stuff like in my video above happens, albeit it very rarely. Also, even if people grind GRs all day to be at the top like Gaby & friends, even I have to admit that they are very good players in most cases.
Do you have some type of auto-clicker to spam smoke screen when its rdy, or do you manually click it all the time? I suppose you dont, as it's seen on 12:05, where you don't click it in time. I mean, it requires tons of focus to not just slip twice in a Grift.
BTW, NO TASKERS ?? Is this a new build or just because you didnt find any?
HIGH HIGH respect that you did it with 3m toughness, tier 34-35 gems, no taskers and only 333 paragon !
Yeah, obviously I use macros and the like but I just wanted to spice things up a little on a Reflect / Electrified / Thunderstorm pack because a hardcore rank without awareness proc would have been too boring, so I just took it down for a moment
The build doesn't really change with or without Taskers, it's just my dps that sucks big time. You can play this build without M6 even just the same. Yes, I tried to maximize my dps and went for zero toughness, but that was my intention from the very beginning.
Hi everyone,
so I heard lightning Demon Hunter is not a build you could play in hardcore. A few months ago, after my initial success with the build in softcore, I set out on a mission to prove the naysayers wrong. It was clear to me from the get go that this is what it would take to be at the top of the ladder, and being a nonseason softcore player with only occasional trips to the hardcore world, I was slowly forming my character to do so. Now with the patch just around the corner, the incoming lightning “nerfs” and the possibility for every DH to go much higher than 42 (even in hardcore) pretty easily and without as much danger involved, it was clear to me that I was pressed on time to do this. Initally, I was planning to farm to paragon 400 at least (I am at 333 as of this video), getting my Taskers, getting some other good stuff and then beat the shit out of tier 44-45. Being nowhere close to the best equipped demon hunters in hardcore (those paragon 600 and up with few if any deaths), I needed to take advantage of a build that would allow me to outpace everyone else, just as I did with the lightning build in softcore before. My plans, however, were bound to fail due to the time limitations I have ingame and outside of it, so I was forced to just go all in and try to make best use of the items I had (which are pretty shitty honestly, I will show them at the end of the video along with my paragon distribution). Unfortunately I had to invest a lot into attack speed to reach the 2.842 breakpoint, even more than I would need to invest for the 4.154 breakpoint if I had a mediocre Taskers roll. Along with the steep cdr requirements (I wanted to chain ss without Gogok for dangerous situations), this really lowered my dps by a lot, so I had to resort to clearing lower tiers to compensate.
It is clear to me that this will not stay a record for long because of the patch, but who would have expected Blizzard to make such a move. This rank was done for proving a point: lightning demon hunter has been there all along in hardcore (even if it’s only me). It was also clear that I would not stay the only one after something like that happens, because other people naturally will try to get to the top at the end of the season, and they would have to resort to playing lightning in any case. (Damn you Blizzard, I wanted to make everyone suicide themselves in the hopes of breaking my record!). In fact, some people have already been trying to do so during the season, but none have succeeded so far (apart from Mongobiene, who held the previous rank 1 – but he wasn’t playing with zero toughness and rather went for raw strength and survival).
To anyone new to this build, you could check out my old thread for some further general information [Link]
This particular run was really good in terms of density and I used a conduit to kill the RG (2:30 to spare would have been easily enough for Blighter tier 42). I also procced my awareness once near the end on a nasty reflect pack, which I then had to kill of all by itself to not risk making any further mistakes. This was my fourth tier 42 run, I had three tier 43 tries, two of which I had to abandon immediately and one in which I was progressing to 90% ahead of the timer until I hit an empty map with two unskippable elite packs. The keys were farmed today in 3p with <GN> Desolacer and <RIP> T3nno, whom I’d like to thank for their time and support as well as taking the risk to do the trials without a WD; it’s very difficult to find people for “high” level trials on hardcore these days, especially without having the benefits and logistics of a hardcore clan at my disposal. I’d also like to thank <RIP> Drahque and <RIP> Drui for leveling me and the <RIP> clan in general for helping me out a little in T6 until I was able to run it quickly enough myself (by inviting me to their community).
Now, enjoy the show: http://youtu.be/OdfdXP8khyI
Screenshot of the leaderboard (EU season hardcore) as of 8 Jan 2015
To everyone who might have been missing me and my stream: I have been mostly inactive for some two months now and still will be for some weeks, as I’m busy writing my term papers and preparing other things that are related to university.
I’ll be back, see you in season 2 and I'll do my best to entertain you then as well =)
Cheers,
wudijo
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ModeratorHow you handled that final pack was just incredible. "Reflect, electrified, thunderstorm, my awareness procced - yeah, let's just go full crazy and kill that pack". 99.9% of players would've ported out to wait for awareness to be back up (including me, that's why I don't play HC).
Congratz, absolutely amazing feat!
Yeah, that last pack really was close to worst case, the teleporter is pretty bad as well. Probably only a waller affix could have made it even more difficult here. I'm not going to let that take away my time though - it is valuable at times
True, people on hc seem to die fairly quickly on their DHs. I died as well once before with 25h played while gearing up (some months ago), but aside from a little kickstart the items aquired from this character where not really helping me much here, and I also made the bulk of paragon with this one (~150-333 or so). Also, consider I had to relevel all the gems etc.
Also, as specified in the initial post, my point proven was about solo play only, in parties lightning DH is much more common, that's true. More specifically I was referring to the zero toughness version of it, hence why I mentioned Mongobiene (who used 15m+ toughness and a unity afaik). The thing is, not even this amount of toughness will help you in tier 45+, and since this was my goal initally, I decided to play just the same on a lower tier due to my missing dps (and the other reasons I mentioned).
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Anyways, grats.
Yeah, obviously I use macros and the like but I just wanted to spice things up a little on a Reflect / Electrified / Thunderstorm pack because a hardcore rank without awareness proc would have been too boring, so I just took it down for a moment
The build doesn't really change with or without Taskers, it's just my dps that sucks big time. You can play this build without M6 even just the same. Yes, I tried to maximize my dps and went for zero toughness, but that was my intention from the very beginning.
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