Hey glad you have fun About your Question is not a bad gem,is just not really usefull for this Build, wich need Consistency and reliability, and Gogok cant provide that, Iny my case it lose even more value, since i dw and is annoying timing cooldowns when the gem is stacked for gain/utilize fully the secondary bonus, of course if you use 2-hand it become better, and in a pure FC-Frenzy Build probaly i would use it. But honestly there is many better alternative as ww.
Question for fellow Barbs
What is the Hightest Greater Rift Keys (on average) can you u guys farm in Realm of Trials in Solo? And Wich Build/Gear Setup Do you guys use?
So the Gogok just doesn't hold up in comparison to other gems is what you're saying? I was kinda figuring that same thing but I thought may as well get your take on it, you seem to be very knowledgeable about this build.
Anyways, I've already answered your question in above, kinda.
I've gotten the keystone to a level 28 rift a few times. I think that's from wave 32 solo? Can't remember for certain, I'll be heading to sleep after this post!
To reiterate for anyone who didn't read my post right above yours, I run 5piece Raekor's, lightning, with conduit & smite gem (not a good enough RoRG to reroll socket into yet for 3rd L. gem, but working on it), Hexing Pants & Whirlwind.
Yeah is a solid Build, is what i would play if i was going to ww as lightning, thanks for your reply too, i was just wonder what is the hightest keys barbarian can reliably farm from Trials in solo -.-
Hey Star, another question - and I'm fairly certain that this is going to be a yes, but I want to ask anyways. Guess it's also a shameless bump of your thread.
Gem of the Efficacious Toxin & Pain Enhancer DoTs stack, right?
Also, while I'm here - Curious as to why dual-lightning weapons over Sunkeeper/Doombringer? Fan of the procs?
Yes they stack and sinergyze well togheter and with the build itself, via ruthless and wotb, about weapons, tf/odin are my best rolled weapons, i am looking good rolled sunkeeper/doom to use gifts, but so far no luck.
Starliath... Would you mind taking a look at my lightning WW barb? Im able to survive on T6 and my personal best grift is 26 with 45 seconds remaining. Any advice on how to make it any better?
I have a little extra gear in my stash, Sheafers hammer, pride of cassius, leorics crown, and a few other things if needed. I do not have SoH or TF though, hence why Im using Fulminator right now. I also have a better rolled Odyn Son, but am waiting on a gift to put a socket in it so I can keep the rolls.
your barb is pretty nice, and is well gemmed and enchanted, here my suggestions!
- Enchant WW Bonus damage on Boots
- I can guess you dont like charge and want to use it, if i am right would be more beneficial remove all your raekor items, replace chest with ik, use T&T Gloves, and hex pants, would be better than use raekor w/o charge, shoulder can keep raekor, since vile guard if you dont use charge will be not much better.. If i am wrong, you should get ik belt for get full ik set and raekor gloves for full set raekor bonus and replace war cry or Battle rage (depends on your survivability with charge
- Talents are fine, but i would probaly replace Brawler with Rampage (if you want an aoe talent, they both serve the same purpose) but since you use 2 hand and should kill fast enough probaly rampage would be better.
- Skills wise i would use Bloodshed with battle rage, and probaly war cry runed Invigorate, wich is better for your ancients survivability, wich as lightning is very important.
x Bitfrotter
thanks for your kind words! lets start!
- Gear/enchants/gems : Red Gem on pants, socket on unity with a leg. gem would be probaly better in the long run (but if you dont have it atm, keep the crit damage wich is still good). Would be a lot better if you using hex pants (if u got a pair), also i would use % life gem, you have only 1 cooldown skill, and no other bonus to Cooldown reduction, % life would be a lot more useful for you.
- Talents: I would remove Bloodthirst (wich is kinda weak with your low bonus to globes) anduse a more offensive passive talent like ruthless or berserker rage.
- Skills: No reason to use battle rage with ferocity wich is terrible, use it runed Bloodshed wich is the most solid and safe choice. No Reason either to use Frenzy runed as Fire, when you are lightning and you have a very nice % Lightning Bonus damage. Wrathf of berserk is better runed Insanity, if u need survivability u can get it somewhere else, no need to sacrifice your best dps cooldown with the life x fury rune. If you want to use rend, is better if you rune it as lightning, but honestly i would remove rend altogheter and use charge, u have full raekor bonus, no reason to no have Furious charge.
p.s If u use furious charge, reforge your rend bonus on shoulder, and replace unforgiving wich is just overkill, with either ruthless or berserker rage
I appreciate the time you took to examine my barb. Just last night I switched from Odyn Son and Fulminator to Schaefers Hammer, but dont think I like it. Wreath of Lightning doesnt proc nearly as often with the 2 hander. I think I prefer the dual wield. I would switch out my gear as you recommended, but I dont have that gear. I have the hex pants, but still dont have IK chest or T&T yet., which is strange because I have 2 full sets of MoE and 3 full sets of Reakors but somehow IK belt and chest have eluded me. I will try swapping out my passives and runes as you suggest and see how it goes. Thanks again!
Thanks for the advise. I need to get to know more about furious charge but with the changes I managed to finish level 24 greater rift and upgrade some gems. Will try to do more rifts and greater rifts to level the legendary gems to 25. I still dye some times but will work on that to. Need to be carefull and not charge in without thinking. Thanks again.
I managed to finish a level 26grift and upgraded one of the gems to level 25. working on the next one. Still need to work on furious charge but it is going better and better. Thanks again and may the rng god be with you and all of the ROS players.
A Few Notes..
As Barbarian On Trial Rifts any Mistake, Mob type & Position or 1-shot situations, will lower the lv of the key you will get by quite a bit, in few words, we lack consistency and nothing can be done about it.
The build you will see in the video is the one that give me the best results and the most consistency. For Trials i use a modified ww build, more focused on damage & cooldonws (2 hand weapon, fire themed, tri-cooldowns & max FC damage), but still retain a ww gameplay as you can see ww is used 100% of the time. The gear synergize well with the build itself & the trial Rift Enviroment, and give a good amout of extra/free Damage.
If you have any questions about it, post here or come on my Twitch channel.
x Clyphord
Hey glad you have fun About your Question is not a bad gem,is just not really usefull for this Build, wich need Consistency and reliability, and Gogok cant provide that, Iny my case it lose even more value, since i dw and is annoying timing cooldowns when the gem is stacked for gain/utilize fully the secondary bonus, of course if you use 2-hand it become better, and in a pure FC-Frenzy Build probaly i would use it. But honestly there is many better alternative as ww.Question for fellow Barbs
What is the Hightest Greater Rift Keys (on average) can you u guys farm in Realm of Trials in Solo? And Wich Build/Gear Setup Do you guys use?So the Gogok just doesn't hold up in comparison to other gems is what you're saying? I was kinda figuring that same thing but I thought may as well get your take on it, you seem to be very knowledgeable about this build.
Anyways, I've already answered your question in above, kinda.
I've gotten the keystone to a level 28 rift a few times. I think that's from wave 32 solo? Can't remember for certain, I'll be heading to sleep after this post!
To reiterate for anyone who didn't read my post right above yours, I run 5piece Raekor's, lightning, with conduit & smite gem (not a good enough RoRG to reroll socket into yet for 3rd L. gem, but working on it), Hexing Pants & Whirlwind.
Gem of the Efficacious Toxin & Pain Enhancer DoTs stack, right?
Also, while I'm here - Curious as to why dual-lightning weapons over Sunkeeper/Doombringer? Fan of the procs?
Update - New Video
"Bloodthirst" WW Barb In Action - T6 Greedwww.youtube.com/watch?v=9rXj1XrIFO8
Just a Short T6 Greed Kill as WW with style
Update - New Video
T6 Speed Rifts as WW Barbarianwww.youtube.com/watch?v=DNEV3X5J2Q8
Can WW barbarian be viable for T6 Speed Rifts Run?
Maybe you would like to come and compete with us in this thread ?
T6 Rift Clearing Competition @ http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/14609681171
Fastest 10x T6 rifts with phy ww is currently: (including 30sec downtime between rifts)
T6 Rift Clearing Competition - 10 x T6 rifts in 41min and 4 sec @ http://youtu.be/s1rkZoGZ-Iw
Update - New Video
T6 Speed Bounties as WW Barbarian
www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0gOIOw_hgg
A Few Notes..
- 3 Sets of Full Act 1 Bounties, each with a different boss
- Music is from Xenogears OST
Any Question?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Devestator-1333/hero/50143225
I have a little extra gear in my stash, Sheafers hammer, pride of cassius, leorics crown, and a few other things if needed. I do not have SoH or TF though, hence why Im using Fulminator right now. I also have a better rolled Odyn Son, but am waiting on a gift to put a socket in it so I can keep the rolls.
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Bitfrotter-2831/hero/15167245
thanks in advance.
nice info by the way
http://i.imgur.com/zOceoa0.jpg
X Devastator
your barb is pretty nice, and is well gemmed and enchanted, here my suggestions!- Enchant WW Bonus damage on Boots
- I can guess you dont like charge and want to use it, if i am right would be more beneficial remove all your raekor items, replace chest with ik, use T&T Gloves, and hex pants, would be better than use raekor w/o charge, shoulder can keep raekor, since vile guard if you dont use charge will be not much better.. If i am wrong, you should get ik belt for get full ik set and raekor gloves for full set raekor bonus and replace war cry or Battle rage (depends on your survivability with charge
- Talents are fine, but i would probaly replace Brawler with Rampage (if you want an aoe talent, they both serve the same purpose) but since you use 2 hand and should kill fast enough probaly rampage would be better.
- Skills wise i would use Bloodshed with battle rage, and probaly war cry runed Invigorate, wich is better for your ancients survivability, wich as lightning is very important.
x Bitfrotter
thanks for your kind words! lets start!- Gear/enchants/gems : Red Gem on pants, socket on unity with a leg. gem would be probaly better in the long run (but if you dont have it atm, keep the crit damage wich is still good). Would be a lot better if you using hex pants (if u got a pair), also i would use % life gem, you have only 1 cooldown skill, and no other bonus to Cooldown reduction, % life would be a lot more useful for you.
- Talents: I would remove Bloodthirst (wich is kinda weak with your low bonus to globes) anduse a more offensive passive talent like ruthless or berserker rage.
- Skills: No reason to use battle rage with ferocity wich is terrible, use it runed Bloodshed wich is the most solid and safe choice. No Reason either to use Frenzy runed as Fire, when you are lightning and you have a very nice % Lightning Bonus damage. Wrathf of berserk is better runed Insanity, if u need survivability u can get it somewhere else, no need to sacrifice your best dps cooldown with the life x fury rune. If you want to use rend, is better if you rune it as lightning, but honestly i would remove rend altogheter and use charge, u have full raekor bonus, no reason to no have Furious charge.
p.s If u use furious charge, reforge your rend bonus on shoulder, and replace unforgiving wich is just overkill, with either ruthless or berserker rage
thats all !
I appreciate the time you took to examine my barb. Just last night I switched from Odyn Son and Fulminator to Schaefers Hammer, but dont think I like it. Wreath of Lightning doesnt proc nearly as often with the 2 hander. I think I prefer the dual wield. I would switch out my gear as you recommended, but I dont have that gear. I have the hex pants, but still dont have IK chest or T&T yet., which is strange because I have 2 full sets of MoE and 3 full sets of Reakors but somehow IK belt and chest have eluded me. I will try swapping out my passives and runes as you suggest and see how it goes. Thanks again!
Thanks for the advise. I need to get to know more about furious charge but with the changes I managed to finish level 24 greater rift and upgrade some gems. Will try to do more rifts and greater rifts to level the legendary gems to 25. I still dye some times but will work on that to. Need to be carefull and not charge in without thinking. Thanks again.
http://i.imgur.com/zOceoa0.jpg
I managed to finish a level 26grift and upgraded one of the gems to level 25. working on the next one. Still need to work on furious charge but it is going better and better. Thanks again and may the rng god be with you and all of the ROS players.
http://i.imgur.com/zOceoa0.jpg
Update - DiabloFans Build Updated (with the new Features)
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/101-t6-bloodthirst-wwp.s very nice bitfrotter, keep it up!
Update - New Video
Solo Trial Rift as WW Barbarianwww.youtube.com/watch?v=znavLh82Lhg
A Few Notes..
As Barbarian On Trial Rifts any Mistake, Mob type & Position or 1-shot situations, will lower the lv of the key you will get by quite a bit, in few words, we lack consistency and nothing can be done about it.
The build you will see in the video is the one that give me the best results and the most consistency. For Trials i use a modified ww build, more focused on damage & cooldonws (2 hand weapon, fire themed, tri-cooldowns & max FC damage), but still retain a ww gameplay as you can see ww is used 100% of the time. The gear synergize well with the build itself & the trial Rift Enviroment, and give a good amout of extra/free Damage.
If you have any questions about it, post here or come on my Twitch channel.
Thats all, Enjoy.