I've reached the point on my barb where I have full set for raekors, ik, and earth, but I have one unity instead of 2. I'm dissatisfied with my inability to comfortably do t5 and t6.
Any tips out there? I tried a cdr build, but that hasn't gone so well.
Also a second question, what's the best gear and skillsetup for group rift runs in t5 and t6?
Im also having the same issues - my damage is fine but my survivability is not so much. Would love to get some tips for soloing and group action.
On day time i do play solo - night time i have a group to have fun with. so far we can only farm t4 fast and efficient even tho i melt elite packs
i hope you dont feel like im intruding your post op
Solo T6 is doable but not worth it without dual unity+token imo. I have might of the earth/lut socks and Ik sets(but not the pieces to run both unfortunately). Like you I don't have two unities, but I got to see what it was like before the ancients bug was fixed. With permanent 50% damage reduction T6 was a challenge but not ridiculously difficult. Without it, you can still clear T6 but it will take way too long. Between having to be so careful and gearing/building defensively T4 is better until you get that 50% damage reduction. With the dual unity build you don't have to sacrifice too much damage to run T6 comfortably.
I just read Pri's guide where he drops hammer of the ancients. The two things that I worry about is he uses hex pants which I don't have, and I have hammer of the ancients dmg on my earth helm and lut socks.
I do have the pieces to run both earth and ik, but it felt like my ancients weren't very useful overall.
I tried earth + aughilds and that didn't work out so well. I'm going to try earth + born + cindercoat + that ignore pain belt and run all dps passives including the one that reduces the cd on wrath of the beserker.
That's very similar to what I'm running now. What torment rifts can you do without impunity? I really like battle rage but I run impunity instead, and hammer of the ancients instead of frenzy.
I run a lot of cdr, which makes me wonder how much is too much.
This gear lets me run t5 riftswithout too many issues, though I do die sometimes.
I don't have a sunkeeper or I would run that instead of burning axe.
And I really don't want to give up reaper wraps. I gave aughilds a shot instead of born and it didn't go very well.
I have an amulet that has fire skill instead of cdr, but I've been stacking the living shit out of cdr instead (I'm at 51.76). I have almost 100% uptime on ignore pain and wrath is up a lot, but my paper dps is way the fuck down because I'm losing out on crit dmg, chance, and fire skills.
I do T6 without unity's but i did stack CDR im @ 47%... for solo play my fire build works well... using born's 2 set and stacking fire dmg.. but for group play cold barb is definately a plus.. if you dont need to DPS then icequake barb with an azurewrath def helps everyone out.. I keep most trash mobs frozen entirely with azurewrath as well andwith thestun from leap everythings cc'ed.
I use iron hide on ignore pain to keep almost 100% uptime with all the cdr. It's basically providing a passive 50% dmg reduction like unity. I don't die when ignore pain is up, so I don't need the heal. I suppose the heal would allow me to stand in more effects and just hammer away on the mobs. It would be nice if I could get a cindercoat with earthquake dmg on it. I'm going to try not using impunity, see if I kill things faster than they kill me.
I was wondering with all the cold changes if it was super strong now. It looks interesting, though I wouldn't want to run ancient spear for my play style.
Personally, I consider unity+follower not dying combo that everyone uses and is "proud" lets say mmm less honourable and unfortunately the perma ancients although much more manly(cause of cd and dying)can not survive T5/T6 and while on cd you will probably die(assuming you use lightning rune for 50% reduction).
So,what can a barbarian do to effectively survive T6 ,at a good speed and not rely on clunky/abusive/bad mechanics?
Well for T6 we are assuming you have at least 3 set MotE and the Ring of Royal Grandeur ,after searches in these and other forums and tries(crafting tries),I found so far at least,that the best way to survive is to use ignore pain and improve it as much as possible.
By using multiple sets and the Pride Of Cassius belt,stacking cd reduction i was able to lower significantly the downtime of ignore pain.
Although i had even more reduction (49.27%) I am currently sitting on 44.23%(but with more dps)+ 5 sec from belt,effectively having ignore pain every 6.7 sec and thus able to upgrade my dps even more since ignore pain is taking care of my defences.
For reference, I am able to kill ghom t6 solo, no unity,not even follower to heal or anything,just using ignore pain and pot if needed ,at 37 sec (which translates to 77.9mil/sec dps).
I am only here to show that there are other ways too ,not to boast or anything else.
Less honorable? Clunky mechanics? Idk why people are so silly. Unity is in fact working as intended and giving players an edge in solo play. Wear unity in a team game and see how god awful it is. I'm sorry but im sure with my setup I can clear t6 at double the speed which trasnlates to non turtle speed, and its mostly the cry babies who dont have unity who complain its crap, clunky, garbage ect. Oh gee wow didn't realize I just farmed and got 2 and didnt cry about how op it was. Now I have 6 unity's gg to me.
Akarat's Champion - Prophet, and some... flexability when it comes to the nastier pools of crap, and I can survive in torment 6 during elite packs just fine. My DPS is no where near enough to solo though. Need more CDR hoping to get Akarat's Awakening, should be easy after that.
Having said that I can run 6 piece Akhans so would have space for a Unity to replace RoRG if I got 2...
EDIT Sorry I wandered into the wrong forum by mistake; doors over here is it? *whistles innocently*
I generally gear around playing with friends so i run less resist than i used to (950ish - 1050 on all) i find that if you have enough dmg (generally hexing pants and other good gear for eq) you can have a pack dead easily by jumping 3 times and running around them if they are threatening it isnt that bad to solo t6 with no unity it just ends up being 2 mins slower per rift clear usually...between burning axe proc templar heals passive healing stats and grabbing globes when things die fast its easily doable
its not bad to use unity to solo if it speeds things up also just run with a support monk and your speed doubles over solo with unity anyway and honestly running with a support monk is likely twice as overpowered as the "unity trick" for those haters killing elite packs in 4 seconds is nice
Yes, T6 IS soloable without unity, you just have to have excellent damage, kiting skills, and ability to get out of any sort of fire instantly.
Unity is perfectly balanced. For starters, it can only be used while soloing, which is significantly slower then going in a 4 man group in terms of everything. It also requires 3 total pieces, so theres the RNG element involved there. Also, it does not increase your damage, but only your toughness, by doubling it. It is no more unbalancing then things like Wand of Woh for wizards, and various other legendaries thats basically a torment-lvl booster.
depends on your definition of soloable, it's totally soloable without unity but efficiently? Not a chance. The amount of damage T6 needs to clear at a good speed isn't achievable without unity, and even with it as a barb you will need to play almost perfectly in order to not get 1 shot... Imo the only class that can do it efficiently without unity is a witch doctor and that's because they can just run around in spirit walk and either 1 shot with jade or have there pets do all the work...
Why so angry m8 ? why defend something that is obviously overpowered? How much is that double speed of yours? Unfortunately I can only compare with ghom t6 kills ,where we can measure things.
90% of the ppl also play with friends and other ppl where this mechanic just doesn't work ,don't you want your class to be able to survive without bad mechanics? Do you want to change your build /gear every time you join someone?
When you play solo you are free to use your unity and be happy and awesome but makes me wonder if you never play with group or if your double speed grinds to a halt.
Considering I have 1 of the best geared barbs in the world....
The fact that if I put on some other pieces I have I could literally on sheet have 1million elite dps on you, how do you think your barb even compares or hits "top 10" in comparison to my gear?
You talk about some other stuff and gear and an act of god but that doesn't cut it m8. Diabloprogress is your proof ? what's next ,paper dps in game ? The site doesn't' take into account so many things ,like for example +dmg on earthquakes ,the fact that our main source of dmg is earthquake and cooldowns play such a big part and the list goes on and on .its a tool to help you a bit but no means to compare.
If you want to compare you can see that you got : (1.9(fire)*1.74(elite))=3.306 VS mine:(1.53(fire)*1.28(earthquake)*1.65(elite))=3.231 multiplier on earthquakes (not even counting your hammers vs battle rage and frenzy(+25% dmg).
As you can see the difference in dps is so very minimal and probably not in your favor either ,however in terms of toughness I got you hands down, as I can survive in T6 in a group thanks to 6sec cd on ignore pain ,while you will probably melt away at the first moonseed you happen to come across....
Don't know why you turned this thread into a pissing contest nor do Icare but I came here to help other barbarians do T6 effectively in group play.
The difference is incredibly huge in the gap between both of us. Your toughness is the exact same as mine rofl and I have a better pride belt than you do...More hp and also I have shoulders with +earthquake damage and bracers of which add +26% damage on each pull if I wanted pure eq damage. I also have hexing pants if I wanted to use the garbage rorg. Diablo progress doesn't lie when it comes to calculating damage, You're just an elitist who bashed a unity and I put you in your place and you didnt like it. The ring is working as intended so get over it and yes I clear t6 faster than you ever will and in my raekor set 8-10 mins 1 t6 rift.
It's simple, unity is working as intended and it is the best for solo play as this game is mostly a solo play oriented game. I find grouping boring tbh and so do a lot of players and personally id rather run around with perma 50% reduction and have a harrington for insane damage that doesn't compare to group play. Hota's for 60m on elites pretty much crush a pure eq build imo and idk how people can go pure eq and run around like a tard and have fun without a dumper.
You talk about some other stuff and gear and an act of god but that doesn't cut it m8. Diabloprogress is your proof ? what's next ,paper dps in game ? The site doesn't' take into account so many things ,like for example +dmg on earthquakes ,the fact that our main source of dmg is earthquake and cooldowns play such a big part and the list goes on and on .its a tool to help you a bit but no means to compare.
If you want to compare you can see that you got : (1.9(fire)*1.74(elite))=3.306 VS mine:(1.53(fire)*1.28(earthquake)*1.65(elite))=3.231 multiplier on earthquakes (not even counting your hammers vs battle rage and frenzy(+25% dmg).
As you can see the difference in dps is so very minimal and probably not in your favor either ,however in terms of toughness I got you hands down, as I can survive in T6 in a group thanks to 6sec cd on ignore pain ,while you will probably melt away at the first moonseed you happen to come across....
Don't know why you turned this thread into a pissing contest nor do Icare but I came here to help other barbarians do T6 effectively in group play.
The difference is incredibly huge in the gap between both of us. Your toughness is the exact same as mine rofl and I have a better pride belt than you do...More hp and also I have shoulders with +earthquake damage and bracers of which add +26% damage on each pull if I wanted pure eq damage. I also have hexing pants if I wanted to use the garbage rorg. Diablo progress doesn't lie when it comes to calculating damage, You're just an elitist who bashed a unity and I put you in your place and you didnt like it. The ring is working as intended so get over it and yes I clear t6 faster than you ever will and in my raekor set 8-10 mins 1 t6 rift.
you're a huge fucking noob barry you use frenzy primary WW secondary....just because you have no life doesnt mean you're good kid (actually its like a 35 yr old dude lol)
I lold, I actually use raekor/hota build and clear t6 faster than eq nubs anyways so regardless it doesn't matter. Whats ironic is that you criticize threads all day but we've all yet to see an armory link from a godmode such as yourself. This games all based off of mainstream and what streamers do and kids dont have a clue to look at their own abilities/items and determine what is good.
Does having 1 unity + follower not die token do anything useful? I'm a lightning barb and use together as one for that damage reduction already. So would throwing ring and token on follower really help me out?
Any tips out there? I tried a cdr build, but that hasn't gone so well.
Also a second question, what's the best gear and skillsetup for group rift runs in t5 and t6?
On day time i do play solo - night time i have a group to have fun with. so far we can only farm t4 fast and efficient even tho i melt elite packs
i hope you dont feel like im intruding your post op
just trying to get help like you.
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/prodîgy-2284/Simbarino/43100498
is my armory . any help would be appriciated
I do have the pieces to run both earth and ik, but it felt like my ancients weren't very useful overall.
I tried earth + aughilds and that didn't work out so well. I'm going to try earth + born + cindercoat + that ignore pain belt and run all dps passives including the one that reduces the cd on wrath of the beserker.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/iamscott-1256/hero/948235 is a link to my profile.
I run a lot of cdr, which makes me wonder how much is too much.
This gear lets me run t5 riftswithout too many issues, though I do die sometimes.
I don't have a sunkeeper or I would run that instead of burning axe.
And I really don't want to give up reaper wraps. I gave aughilds a shot instead of born and it didn't go very well.
I have an amulet that has fire skill instead of cdr, but I've been stacking the living shit out of cdr instead (I'm at 51.76). I have almost 100% uptime on ignore pain and wrath is up a lot, but my paper dps is way the fuck down because I'm losing out on crit dmg, chance, and fire skills.
I was wondering with all the cold changes if it was super strong now. It looks interesting, though I wouldn't want to run ancient spear for my play style.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/barrybondz-1111/hero/17437659
Having said that I can run 6 piece Akhans so would have space for a Unity to replace RoRG if I got 2...
EDIT Sorry I wandered into the wrong forum by mistake; doors over here is it? *whistles innocently*
its not bad to use unity to solo if it speeds things up also just run with a support monk and your speed doubles over solo with unity anyway and honestly running with a support monk is likely twice as overpowered as the "unity trick" for those haters killing elite packs in 4 seconds is nice
Unity is perfectly balanced. For starters, it can only be used while soloing, which is significantly slower then going in a 4 man group in terms of everything. It also requires 3 total pieces, so theres the RNG element involved there. Also, it does not increase your damage, but only your toughness, by doubling it. It is no more unbalancing then things like Wand of Woh for wizards, and various other legendaries thats basically a torment-lvl booster.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/barrybondz-1111/hero/17437659
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/solesurvivor-2139/Sole/13573143
lol
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/barrybondz-1111/motormouse/17437659
The fact that if I put on some other pieces I have I could literally on sheet have 1million elite dps on you, how do you think your barb even compares or hits "top 10" in comparison to my gear?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/barrybondz-1111/hero/17437659
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/barrybondz-1111/hero/17437659
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/barrybondz-1111/hero/17437659
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/barrybondz-1111/hero/17437659