In one day I got the Bul-Kathos's set, got a socket in both so its a ton of Crit Hit damage and on paper it increases my damage by like 180k. Problem is, I am currently running a heavy +fire damage setup that focuses around my 2H Maximus (the one that increases fire damage and summons a demon with a fire chain which due to the +fire damage does a TON of damage). On paper its lower damage than the two BK weapons but after a few test runs its clear to me that with my current spec the BK weapons don't work as well. SO..........with all of that said, is there a spec out there that has good synergy with the BK weapons (obviously doesnt have to be +fire damage and I actually would prefer +phys)?
FYI. I read somewhere that Maximus fire chain does NOT scale with your +fre% damage, you might want to test and confirm that yourself or else you maybe under a false assumption
FYI. I read somewhere that Maximus fire chain does NOT scale with your +fre% damage, you might want to test and confirm that yourself or else you maybe under a false assumption
I have seen its damage go up with more +Fire damage items I get, when I first got it only crit for 1 mil but now I am seeing crits of 3 mil (tics every second)..............im just not completely sure if that's due to slightly better gear or the +fire damage though. All I know is the fire chain is legit, especially for a mobile WW barb.
The chains are a DOT (damage over time) effect, so their damage is calculated more rapidly than the numbers on the screen. These numbers are the combined value of several "ticks" of damage. Most DOTs in the game won't show a yellow 'crit' number, because their number isn't a single hit but rather a collection of several hits, but they still benefit from critical damage/chance.
The chains are a DOT (damage over time) effect, so their damage is calculated more rapidly than the numbers on the screen. These numbers are the combined value of several "ticks" of damage. Most DOTs in the game won't show a yellow 'crit' number, because their number isn't a single hit but rather a collection of several hits, but they still benefit from critical damage/chance.
Wow I didn't know that, thank you that actually makes sense.
I can say you that no. if u use disintegrate, u see a lot of diferent numbers (just like wd bat) i mean, with 50% crit u're not gonna do 40 ticks crit in a second, but with these set weapon skill u ALWAYS do the same damage with the same stats, that means that u CANT crit with them.
The DOT comment was actually about the Maximus sword proc, not the BK swords.
BK swords shouldn't be a DOT, they should work similarly to whirlwind or most other attacks. To be honest I haven't tested them extensively to notice whether or not they crit. I can't imagine why they wouldn't crit, but if they can't do so then it makes them pretty weak and probably not worth using (above and beyond the fact that the whirlwind proc has only about a 50% up-time).
i agree, it's slow compared to pre 2.0 ww/double nado/hybrid build but faster compared to those non-EQ/IK setups(primary > spender type of gameplay) that we have now. as muza said with an optimized gear and a bit of resource cost reduction in gears, one could be WW'ing and sprinting 90% of the time. with my crus gears except for the BK set/belt/gloves t3 speed farming is a breeze.
for now yes, damage is bit on the low side but since more players(heavily discussed on the forums) are discovering the relevance of the set, in no time we will be able to optimize its efficacy in t4-t5 farming. patience my friend, this might be a start of something good here.
Looking at these weapons now, they are underwhelming at higher than T4. This to me is mainly due to lower proc coefficients of the T5+ builds (EQ). Given some recent theorycrafting with the onset of some of the new Legendary Gems in 2.1, this weapons may prove to be useful again.
In one day I got the Bul-Kathos's set, got a socket in both so its a ton of Crit Hit damage and on paper it increases my damage by like 180k. Problem is, I am currently running a heavy +fire damage setup that focuses around my 2H Maximus (the one that increases fire damage and summons a demon with a fire chain which due to the +fire damage does a TON of damage). On paper its lower damage than the two BK weapons but after a few test runs its clear to me that with my current spec the BK weapons don't work as well. SO..........with all of that said, is there a spec out there that has good synergy with the BK weapons (obviously doesnt have to be +fire damage and I actually would prefer +phys)?
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They do give you a huge fury pool and fury regen though, i magine bouldertoss could be good, if you don't have the spear
BK swords shouldn't be a DOT, they should work similarly to whirlwind or most other attacks. To be honest I haven't tested them extensively to notice whether or not they crit. I can't imagine why they wouldn't crit, but if they can't do so then it makes them pretty weak and probably not worth using (above and beyond the fact that the whirlwind proc has only about a 50% up-time).
I'd like to point everyone to another post just created here (http://www.diablofans.com/forums/diablo-iii-class-forums/barbarian-bastions-keep/90587-2-1-ww-permazerk-back-theorycrafting) IT's the beginnings of a discussion around a possible resurgence of the WW build in 2.1. Should it actually be viable again, these weapons could shine.
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I remember reading blue posts about WW getting a higher chance to proc things. I also saw a post about this set getting extra dmg from +%phy dmg.
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