I made a pretty good gear setup for stacking elite dmg on my barb while keeping true to my tdps/ww break point... i usually run a1 where there isn't too many demons but i use a tyrael's might for the added elite dmg + demon dmg + elite demon dmg. im using a wailing host/unity/tyrael's/BKWB.
as you can tell im not using any kind of life steal except rend rune blood lust. i can manage this build and dps/tdps/demon dmg/elite dmg very well as long as i keep rending constantly and kiting when i need to for reflects which i do survive.
as you can see im mainly a ww barb but use rend/hota with it and geared for tdps but you can swap out ias on the rings for chd if you use any other spec...
this is also a very good budget setup and build for high tdps and high mp steam rolling...
pretty much the only thing id do to upgrade my gear atm is try to get a hold of chc mempo, 250str/150vit ice climbers, 8% ias wailing host/unity, 70 AR inna's pants, 250str/150vit vile wards and thats about it... if anyone could help with that i wouldnt mind
thank you!!! ya i thought it was pretty awesome myself so i chose to go ahead and share my findings... i believe %elite dmg is one of the best end game affixes we have available....
its because of my ww break point so thank you for bringing that up i feel so stupid because if i do one day roll a trifecta ammy ill be able to swap out either the unity or wailing host with a SOJ and still kepp my current break point. thnx for your input i learned something today!
but all in all i just thought if i do replace my bracers with lacunis of str/ar/chc i will then max out my movement speed and also be able to implement a SOJ by swapping either the unity or wailing host in which that would have to be your own personal preference for either the loh of the unity or life per second of the wailing host. i personally would make this move to hold to my 2.85 break point of ww and be able to implement the massive elite dmg of the SOJ.
and this will all still hold to a "budget" idea of an "end game budget barb!"
but adding the elite dmg that im providing through my setup would even make it more over powered no? it seems as if me trying to keep my current break point and adding the soj/lacuni my tdps does increase in the area of elite dmg but my standard white mob monsters receive less dmg.... using a 26% elite dmg 6% ww chc SOJ
go on AH and check prices for really good unitys and tyraels. i suspect they cost quite alot.
a 5% ias str unity will cost like 20-30m last time i seen them... and tyraels are highly cheap 1-10m
and to think any other ring besides unity and wailing host are end game you are wrong... tell me one ring that gives you dmg + another OVERALL percentage of your dmg to elites?
this is again in the sense of "budget end game" not 50m
but you see your equation is wrong... you are making an "example" of an ammount of increase to my dps by switching my ring to a rare that has more dmg... i would be shocked to find a ring right now that will give me 20k+ dmg to either the unity OR wailing host i have and i would bet everything i have if it was on ah it would be 2b totally taking from the idea of "budget"... and why would i be spending 100s of millions of gold on a ring when i have the idea of "budget" on my mind? i spent 20m on my ias str unity if i want to upgrade to a 8% its only like a 4-6k dps increase and 100s of millions in a price difference so the one i have is just fine...
you can also go with one 9% ring and a 9% Witching Hour, than you dont lose your breakpoint with SOJ, even without lacunis.... dont know about the price though
ya im sure a 9% would cost atleast 500m for the wailing with a good amount of avg dmg IF IM LUCKY and definitely around 2b for a 9% unity so thats totally not worth it to me...
seraphim4 do you think your tdps is in any way compairable to mine? you are wrong i am sorry here is your tdps equated with your barb, build, and buffs. im pretty sure i spent way less on my barb then you did on yours....
Also i think it would be really good if you could get a Mace as MH and the EF in your OH, since you focus so much on elite dmg it would improve your HotA quite a bit and wouldnt have to deal with tornado fears. Also i just noticed why dont use the smash rune for HotA? And have you tought about a Talrasha Chest?
yes i have considered tals chest but i myself believe you should in no way use it unless you are trying to acheive the 3.33 ww break point because it is the highest ehp loss you could do. i also do not have smash rune currently activated it is ideal for my setup but i use birthright for health globes and loot.
seraphim4 do you think your tdps is in any way compairable to mine? you are wrong i am sorry here is your tdps equated with your barb, build, and buffs
nah mine is much higher than yours. since A1 is the place to be where all mobs are basically undead or beasts your tyraels doesnt do much for you. and my SoJ gives me much higher dmg to elites than what you got. add the higher paper dps on top of that and yeah. my true dps is way above yours. stop taking it as a contest and getting offended when someone points out things you could better about your build. if you are this senstive about your gear you really shouldn´t be posting on forums.
click the 2 d3rawr links i have above and check down in the bottom right hand corner where tdps is listed for all monster types. your barb can effectively farm mp 10 (bes) better then mine and it has a higher base dps which your hota would smash harder. but regular and elite/demon monster are just about the same for tdps. also seraphim i am making good key points you are trying to debate... nothing is wrong with me saying this is a "budget end game setup" when it is. i would in no way pay the amount of gold you probably have for your setup when mine was way cheaper and highly efficeint. i myself currently farm the ammount of legendaries per hour as moldran does and im doing it on mp 7 with "crappier gear"
Anyway the "tyraels/stacking dmg vs. elites" was used a lot back then by cdex to build decent "budget sets". So its nothing realy new
umm my setup doesnt revolve around the tyrael's chest my setup revolves around %elite dmg in which 4 items i have on are the bases of my %elite dmg like the unity/wailing host/bul kathos weapon BESIDES the tyrael's chest... did cdex do that? i really dont even understand why you would even bring that up when i didnt even say anything about this being "new" who is cdex again? cause i never heard of him. and was this gearing done to maximize %elite dmg on a 2.85 aps ww break point 2m+ tdps BARB?
o he does? just yesterday i watched his stream and he was on mp 10 well i couldnt see what mp he was on cause his stream was blurry but someone in the chatroom said he was on 10 hmm wonder what route he uses... must have caught him at the wrong time... if you go look at his older videos hell tell you how farming anything over mp 3 is stupid.
Cdex was one of the famous barbs back then. He had a pretty known twitch stream and achieved world records on fastest asmodan mp10 kills at the time he was active. I think he build like +500 sets for viewers in total and posted alot of "gearing guides" on reddit as well.
good to know it has nothing to do with my setup... i didnt learn how to gear for elite dmg from this guy cause like i said i never heard of this guy till you brang him up.
but anyways umm i gotta go guys so ill get back to this in a few
well my barb isnt geared for mp 10 i only farm mp 7 and i had to change my build for ghom to stay alive... my build and setup isnt particularly for single target bosses as i use brawler and continuous poison on a no life steal barb is bad. i switched brawler to superstition because brawler becomes a dead waisted skill on single targets. i also tried one run using killing spree and 1 using hota. also you have to keep in mind that this is a farming setup not uber/bosses setup.
keep in mind this is on mp 7 in which i geared my barb for. also what are we comparing here? my budget setup compaired to all other budget setups or my budget setup compared to this guys trifecta crafted and multi crafted item setup with high end items that are no where near budget? if im going to compair my budget setup to this guys very costly setup then i would also like to see him do a mp 7 ghom kill then i will compair the time that he kills him in percentage to my time then we can compair how much gold we put into our gears. if its not more then a 50% time decrease and costs over 500m+ more then mine.... then.... ITS NOT WORTH IT!
if you would like i can show you what the setup is intended for it will only take me about 40-50 minutes when no one is watching and i have full dedicated bandwith on my 1mbps connection to be able to actually use the build and attack without pinging up to 200+ ms while streaming. im not going to waste my time recording a video then encoding it and uploading to youtube on 1mbps upload speed.
i always have a crappy run when i stream cause my computer and inet suck so unforeseen things happen during streaming... runs are much more smoother other wise... but anyways heres me running in this %elite dmg gear
would be funny to see this swept under the rug and have all kinds of variations of my setup and maybe even run spawn all over the place and i like always get 0 credit. but all in all you seen it here first. nothing but smiles
and btw moldrans legendary run sucks just use mine
well as you can see i have 3 crafted parts gloves/bracers/ammy i cannot set a price on those because they are based on a roll of luck but those can easily be replaced with budget items like ik gloves/strong arm bracers/rare or leg ammy. now as far as the shoulders you can buy 5-10m rare shoulders that will do the job but you can also chose to craft them as well. helm i dont think i spent no more then 10m on that mempo but you can chose to go with a budget andariels helm as well. chest was no more then 10m. pants no more then 10m. unity 20m. wailing host 20-50m, they are rarely put on ah with avg dmg. ice climbers with no ms 10m or you can chose to go with any other boots you want... witching hour about 25-50m. BKWB mighty weapon 10m. IAS/OS EF 50-100m. the gems are really not necessary so you can cut your budget on those by alot as well. you can go with a AR witching hour with less str... you can get a wailing host with no avg dmg... you can get a lower dps ias/os EF...
so you can basically do this setup with about 100m-300m.... which to some may not be "budget" but i believe it is budget for what this setup can do... do any of you know of a setup cheaper that can do better farming wise or just elites?
of course the idea of this setup being "budget" isnt the point of it at all just an addition. this is all about steam rolling elites with %elite dmg.
Well as far as farming Legendarys a Trashfarm barb which you can get for around 100m would be better.
But i think for Elite farming your setup could do pretty well budget wise, i am not to familiar with the prices for that but i think a normal hota build for mp5/6 should cost 100-150m.
as ive learned from my play time and experience trash farming is what it is called "trash" farming. also this is not just based around the hota build this is built around the 2.85 ww break point using the ww, rend, AND hota spec.....
yes this setup is based around elite dmg BUT it also sustains a huge amount of standard dmg.... best of both worlds?
For Legendary farming your build/setup isnt so good.
now that i do understand... did you watch the video? what was it 4 or 5 legs i got that run? if you know a better way please lmk cause id like to increase to 10 legs per 50 minutes.... on a 200m setup...
because its not worth it, FoM is better than WH, and getting 5 NV would cost too much time for what it does
wheeping is boss thats where i found my 1.5b mempo and i get set items in there all the time...
well im going to start a festering/leorics 5 stack to FoM/Wheeping run on mp 7 which my barb is geared for and ill get back to you personally with my findings im thinking it might work out REALLY good or REALLY bad we'll see...
and really that mp 10 farming would have to require GODLY gear and massive steam rolling to get that amount of legs per hour... trying it with mediocre mp 10 gear would be a waste of time... what is good for godly gear as far as leg farming goes is not good for mediocre gear....
THE REAL SECRET TO LEG FARMING IS KILLING FAST ON HIGH MP.... plus having max mf/5 stacks, having a good route, and having a very efficient play style + build. for some reason im kinda iffy about partying for legs seems not to work out for me... i dont want to start another leg conspiracy but i do believe partying for legs may some how be bugged....
k back to topic
update: damn dude im having VERY good results with the festering/leorics 5 stack to FoM/Wheeping tons of legs are dropping like candy on mp 7 for me....
I made a pretty good gear setup for stacking elite dmg on my barb while keeping true to my tdps/ww break point... i usually run a1 where there isn't too many demons but i use a tyrael's might for the added elite dmg + demon dmg + elite demon dmg. im using a wailing host/unity/tyrael's/BKWB.
as you can tell im not using any kind of life steal except rend rune blood lust. i can manage this build and dps/tdps/demon dmg/elite dmg very well as long as i keep rending constantly and kiting when i need to for reflects which i do survive.
as you can see im mainly a ww barb but use rend/hota with it and geared for tdps but you can swap out ias on the rings for chd if you use any other spec...
this is also a very good budget setup and build for high tdps and high mp steam rolling...
pretty much the only thing id do to upgrade my gear atm is try to get a hold of chc mempo, 250str/150vit ice climbers, 8% ias wailing host/unity, 70 AR inna's pants, 250str/150vit vile wards and thats about it... if anyone could help with that i wouldnt mind
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but all in all i just thought if i do replace my bracers with lacunis of str/ar/chc i will then max out my movement speed and also be able to implement a SOJ by swapping either the unity or wailing host in which that would have to be your own personal preference for either the loh of the unity or life per second of the wailing host. i personally would make this move to hold to my 2.85 break point of ww and be able to implement the massive elite dmg of the SOJ.
and this will all still hold to a "budget" idea of an "end game budget barb!"
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if requested i could also provide video of my play style and how i manage not using life steal with my build and reflects vs the added elite bonus
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compair:
http://www.d3rawr.com/d-gsRdW lacuni/soj
http://www.d3rawr.com/d-5T36I crafted bracers/unity + wailing host
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a 5% ias str unity will cost like 20-30m last time i seen them... and tyraels are highly cheap 1-10m
and to think any other ring besides unity and wailing host are end game you are wrong... tell me one ring that gives you dmg + another OVERALL percentage of your dmg to elites?
this is again in the sense of "budget end game" not 50m
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ya im sure a 9% would cost atleast 500m for the wailing with a good amount of avg dmg IF IM LUCKY and definitely around 2b for a 9% unity so thats totally not worth it to me...
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http://www.d3rawr.com/d-3DS9f
the only thing that your barb is better then mine in is that it could effectively farm mp 10 better then mine... but i dont even need to farm mp 10.
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yes i have considered tals chest but i myself believe you should in no way use it unless you are trying to acheive the 3.33 ww break point because it is the highest ehp loss you could do. i also do not have smash rune currently activated it is ideal for my setup but i use birthright for health globes and loot.
click the 2 d3rawr links i have above and check down in the bottom right hand corner where tdps is listed for all monster types. your barb can effectively farm mp 10 (bes) better then mine and it has a higher base dps which your hota would smash harder. but regular and elite/demon monster are just about the same for tdps. also seraphim i am making good key points you are trying to debate... nothing is wrong with me saying this is a "budget end game setup" when it is. i would in no way pay the amount of gold you probably have for your setup when mine was way cheaper and highly efficeint. i myself currently farm the ammount of legendaries per hour as moldran does and im doing it on mp 7 with "crappier gear"
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umm my setup doesnt revolve around the tyrael's chest my setup revolves around %elite dmg in which 4 items i have on are the bases of my %elite dmg like the unity/wailing host/bul kathos weapon BESIDES the tyrael's chest... did cdex do that? i really dont even understand why you would even bring that up when i didnt even say anything about this being "new" who is cdex again? cause i never heard of him. and was this gearing done to maximize %elite dmg on a 2.85 aps ww break point 2m+ tdps BARB?
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o he does? just yesterday i watched his stream and he was on mp 10 well i couldnt see what mp he was on cause his stream was blurry but someone in the chatroom said he was on 10 hmm wonder what route he uses... must have caught him at the wrong time... if you go look at his older videos hell tell you how farming anything over mp 3 is stupid.
good to know it has nothing to do with my setup... i didnt learn how to gear for elite dmg from this guy cause like i said i never heard of this guy till you brang him up.
but anyways umm i gotta go guys so ill get back to this in a few
lets stay on topic please.
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keep in mind this is on mp 7 in which i geared my barb for. also what are we comparing here? my budget setup compaired to all other budget setups or my budget setup compared to this guys trifecta crafted and multi crafted item setup with high end items that are no where near budget? if im going to compair my budget setup to this guys very costly setup then i would also like to see him do a mp 7 ghom kill then i will compair the time that he kills him in percentage to my time then we can compair how much gold we put into our gears. if its not more then a 50% time decrease and costs over 500m+ more then mine.... then.... ITS NOT WORTH IT!
http://www.twitch.tv/m4st3rp00/b/434997574
if you would like i can show you what the setup is intended for it will only take me about 40-50 minutes when no one is watching and i have full dedicated bandwith on my 1mbps connection to be able to actually use the build and attack without pinging up to 200+ ms while streaming. im not going to waste my time recording a video then encoding it and uploading to youtube on 1mbps upload speed.
update: fixed ghom kill with right passives
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i always have a crappy run when i stream cause my computer and inet suck so unforeseen things happen during streaming... runs are much more smoother other wise... but anyways heres me running in this %elite dmg gear
would be funny to see this swept under the rug and have all kinds of variations of my setup and maybe even run spawn all over the place and i like always get 0 credit. but all in all you seen it here first. nothing but smiles
and btw moldrans legendary run sucks just use mine
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so you can basically do this setup with about 100m-300m.... which to some may not be "budget" but i believe it is budget for what this setup can do... do any of you know of a setup cheaper that can do better farming wise or just elites?
of course the idea of this setup being "budget" isnt the point of it at all just an addition. this is all about steam rolling elites with %elite dmg.
so anyways lets please get back on topic...
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as ive learned from my play time and experience trash farming is what it is called "trash" farming. also this is not just based around the hota build this is built around the 2.85 ww break point using the ww, rend, AND hota spec.....
yes this setup is based around elite dmg BUT it also sustains a huge amount of standard dmg.... best of both worlds?
just crown me king already :/
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now that i do understand... did you watch the video? what was it 4 or 5 legs i got that run? if you know a better way please lmk cause id like to increase to 10 legs per 50 minutes.... on a 200m setup...
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then why stop at FoM? why not stack 5 in festering/leorics then run FoM + Wheeping Hollows? then rinse and repeat?
one of my buddies does it all the time...
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wheeping is boss thats where i found my 1.5b mempo and i get set items in there all the time...
well im going to start a festering/leorics 5 stack to FoM/Wheeping run on mp 7 which my barb is geared for and ill get back to you personally with my findings im thinking it might work out REALLY good or REALLY bad we'll see...
and really that mp 10 farming would have to require GODLY gear and massive steam rolling to get that amount of legs per hour... trying it with mediocre mp 10 gear would be a waste of time... what is good for godly gear as far as leg farming goes is not good for mediocre gear....
THE REAL SECRET TO LEG FARMING IS KILLING FAST ON HIGH MP.... plus having max mf/5 stacks, having a good route, and having a very efficient play style + build. for some reason im kinda iffy about partying for legs seems not to work out for me... i dont want to start another leg conspiracy but i do believe partying for legs may some how be bugged....
k back to topic
update: damn dude im having VERY good results with the festering/leorics 5 stack to FoM/Wheeping tons of legs are dropping like candy on mp 7 for me....
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