[GUIDE] ikigai's 100m exp/hr Barb.

  • #1
    http://youtu.be/80M8uk_2EjE

    Alkaizer route, optimised for more loot + exp.

    Build: http://us.battle.net...URQS!YZh!cZZYYZ
    D3 stopwatch: http://www.diablofan...atch-run-stats/

    Consistent 85m exp per hour
    Easy 90m with shrine buffs.(Fleeting/enlightened/empowered)
    100m with leorics.

    Warning: This build requires certain amount of DPS.
    I'd aim for 90-100k un-buffed DPS (without passives/battlerage)
    Lets just say if your tornadoes cannot clean up mobs in a second or 2, you're better off with WOTB instead and come back after some upgrades.


    Hey guys I came up with this build and wanted to share it with the community.
    I have tested various builds/routes from paragon 50-90 and settled with this to P100.
    I am confident to say that this build and farm route IS the best for a balance of tons of both EXP & LOOT.

    Overpower- Momentum
    Furious charge- Merciless assault


    Why? :)
    Almost zero cool-down spam-mable area-of-effect burst DPS + fury generator for 100% sprint & whirlwind uptime.

    Why not use WOTB/Leap/Ground stomp/Rend etc
    I've tried everything and those skills slow the exp ratio down by alot (minus 10m/hr)

    Why waste a skill slot of wotb's 2 minute cooldown when it is such a pain to maintain off mobs that die instantly and has nothing for into the fray to crit off from?

    Why wait 15 seconds to cast leap/ground stomp when you can spam aoe burst dps and generate fury with furious charge and overpower?

    Rend is debate-able, but personally this is a no-no. Bash-pulverize all the way for its long range and reliability. No reason to jeopardize your run for running out of fury and not being able to sprint.

    The beauty of this build is it's simplicity.
    Simplicity = efficiency = stress-free = more enjoyable game + make a couple of Billion
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    Route; pretty much an optimized Alkaizer route:

    Core of arreat, 30s - 50s
    Tower of damned 1, 30s -50s
    Arreat crater 2, Aim to arrive by 1m 30s
    Rakkis crossing,
    Fields of Slaughter,
    Keep depths 2, Aim to arrive by 5m
    END - 6-8m depending on how thorough you are, or if you simply hit a dead-end, etc.

    Fields of Slaughter:
    On the way to fields of slaughter waypoint, slaughter as much as you can while not running too far off course.
    I usually go from the top but sometimes cut to the middle if there happen to be a chain of mobs leading to the middle and cut to the bottom of fields and to waypoint.

    Keep Depths 2:
    You want to clear like 3/4 of the area, focusing on clearing the square of the map. at least 3 of the 4 corners, restart when you hit a dead-end or if you need to run a long way back to find mobs. But if you are able to clear the whole map smoothly, even better. try to stick to the bottom of the map first as The Breach is always on top.

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    Immortal King's 5 set bonus:
    Personally never tried it but would definitely help + frees up a passive slot(unforgiving)

    Cain's set:
    DO NOT use this, I tried it from 85-95 and realised at 95 that it is still faster with your best gear on. was 150k buffed dps but got 75-80m/hr. elites took couple seconds extra not to mention the occasional deaths from low survivability.

    Leoric's Signet:
    Never owned one but I'd reckon you will hit 100m exp/hr with this puppy. even better if you got an extra 1 for your follower. If you do not own 1, you can buy 1 but do not farm for one as it is a waste of time when barbs level soo fast with this build.

    Gear:
    At the time of the video, I had pretty crappy gear.
    31k hp, 410 res, like 110k unbuffed with a stone of jordan. 25% Movement

    Looting:
    I do pick up stuff, I only focus on jewelries & Legends if I'm more focused into leveling up, If not, I pick up 1 handers + 63 armors too. 99% are thrash anyway and will slow you down in terms of exp & finding your next leg/quintfecta. I made like 1B gold and 500USD from P70-P90 alone by not picking up most of the thrash :)

    Happy leveling :)
    Critiques/questions welcome.
  • #2
    I posted in this in the other thread where you posted this video, but I think its more appropriate here:

    Is Bash necessary in this build? In the video you're hardly using it, and it doesn't look like it really speeds anything up more than just WWing for another second would. I'm asking because it seems like with both merciless assault and momentum you might be able to generate enough fury to sustain WOTB for long periods of time.

    I'm thinking this: http://us.battle.net...QURP!ZYh!ZZYZYc

    I'm not sure whether the third passive would be better as unforgiving, animosity, or boon of bul-kathos. Also, potentially the templar could be used for the 8% more fury generation, but I'm not sure if that's actually better than the scoundrel's 3% crit.

    Part of the appeal of these builds for me is not having to worry about WOTB, but WOTB does have the potential to really speed things up IF you can sustain it on MP0.

    Also, the stopwatch program says 83.5 mil/hr, right?
  • #3
    Quote from Morphos

    I posted in this in the other thread where you posted this video, but I think its more appropriate here:

    Is Bash necessary in this build? In the video you're hardly using it, and it doesn't look like it really speeds anything up more than just WWing for another second would. I'm asking because it seems like with both merciless assault and momentum you might be able to generate enough fury to sustain WOTB for long periods of time.

    I'm thinking this: http://us.battle.net...QURP!ZYh!ZZYZYc

    I'm not sure whether the third passive would be better as unforgiving, animosity, or boon of bul-kathos. Also, potentially the templar could be used for the 8% more fury generation, but I'm not sure if that's actually better than the scoundrel's 3% crit.

    Part of the appeal of these builds for me is not having to worry about WOTB, but WOTB does have the potential to really speed things up IF you can sustain it on MP0.

    Also, the stopwatch program says 83.5 mil/hr, right?


    I do use bash, i like the range of it. but feel free to try out different things :)
    WOTB will be a pain to maintain when your DPS reaches a certain point. my goal is simplicity = efficiency
    Wotb would be ideal for barbs with lower dps.

    passives & followers are personal preference.

    the stopwatch shows the average exp of runs on top, and the exp of last run below it.
  • #4
    I am running something similar, but using Leap/call of arreat over Furious Charge. It generate plenty of fury on its own, not to mention the aoe pull for overpower and mobility it provides. I'm only 130k dps with all buffs, but the speed is great for me so far. I'll give your route a try today.

    Edit: I think I will try this build out and just try my Leap over bash. The furious charge looks like it helps a ton on speed. I have a 5pc IK so fury isn't too much of a problem right now.
  • #5
    Quote from Pherce

    I am running something similar, but using Leap/call of arreat over Furious Charge. It generate plenty of fury on its own, not to mention the aoe pull for overpower and mobility it provides. I'm only 130k dps with all buffs, but the speed is great for me so far. I'll give your route a try today.

    Edit: I think I will try this build out and just try my Leap over bash. The furious charge looks like it helps a ton on speed. I have a 5pc IK so fury isn't too much of a problem right now.


    the reason i chose overpower n furious charge over leap ground stomp is because of the cooldown/fury ratio.

    would you rather spam and get unlimited fury with almost no cooldown or wait 15 seconds to leap/gs. nothing much to jump over anyway xD

    with leap/ground stomp i get way less exp/hr than the build i've finalised
  • #6
    Well, I am able to pull 10 million a run like you did (only using a perfect star in my helm), but I am about a minute longer. I think my dps is the problem as some elite packs slow me way down. That and I like to loot random shit too much.

    Either way, it's better than what I was doing.
  • #7
    i'm interested in trying this build out... but my problem is i find myself losing alot of fury very quickly... i'm not an avid barb player, as my main character is a WD... so maybe i'm just not used to using WW and such... do you not kill everything? you just rush through and kill only what dies on the first pass? also, i find my barb takes a little while to kill elties... i guess i need to get more damage in order to do faster runs...
    WD - mostly other chars are toilet... my pride and joy ;D http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SirBoneselot-1182/hero/1672627
  • #8
    Quote from Ashy_Larry

    i'm interested in trying this build out... but my problem is i find myself losing alot of fury very quickly... i'm not an avid barb player, as my main character is a WD... so maybe i'm just not used to using WW and such... do you not kill everything? you just rush through and kill only what dies on the first pass? also, i find my barb takes a little while to kill elties... i guess i need to get more damage in order to do faster runs...


    hey there, if you are not 1 shotting almost everything, the standard wotb build will be better. as you will be generating lots of fury when there are mobs to crit off from into the fray.
  • #9
    I tested this build as well, a step up for me, in terms of grind exp.
    Initially, I tested it without the passive Unforgiving but then I was stranded now and then with no fury and no mobs around.
    So don't forgett to use unforgiving.
  • #10
    Is it possible for you to post your battle tag so we can look at your profile? Or did I miss it in the first post? I am debating if I want to use my DW that I normally do, or try the Skorn. Also are you picking up loot the way you were running looks like you were not, but your bag was full of unids. Is their a fast way of looting that you using?

    Thanks.
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Hotiedethknt-1846/hero/25170139
  • #11
    ikigai#6463

    i have since upgraded my gear after hitting P100

    but in the vid, i had:
    410 all res
    31k hp
    25% movementspeed
    170k buffed dps with stone of jordan
  • #12
    Hi ikigai,

    The build and the route is great. Thanks, man. I've not been playing my Barb for a while, so my gears are almost out of date. I'm planning on building a new set. Could you pls suggest me what is the minimum DPS/HP/All res/Crit chance to farm with this build efficiently?

    Cheers!
  • #13
    Quote from FreeRock

    Hi ikigai,

    The build and the route is great. Thanks, man. I've not been playing my Barb for a while, so my gears are almost out of date. I'm planning on building a new set. Could you pls suggest me what is the minimum DPS/HP/All res/Crit chance to farm with this build efficiently?

    Cheers!


    Hey thanks,
    I'd recommend you to have 450 all res, 40-50% crit chance including passives, 150k buffed DPS dual wield (passives + into the fray) and 35k hp for efficiency
    24% movement speed is good enough
  • #14
    This looks very nice! Yeah keeping WoTB up is quite hard at low MP, beacuse i dont generate as much fury as in higher Mpers. Hellfire ring on follower gives 6% increased xp.

    Normally i do:
    Core of arreat,
    Tower of damned 1,
    Tower of the Cursed 1, (has mostly 3-4 elites and no side paths) then portal
    Keeps depth 1 & 2
    Bridge of Korsik,

    My Barb: http://eu.battle.net...65/hero/7827085
    Will 3% LS from belt be enough when i use unforgiving as passive?
    I reckon you use bash to kill elites? Because when fury is full all the time what else do u need bash for?
  • #15
    Sorry if i enter a barb chat, but maybe you are interested in WD data for comparison:


    0:14:06 8,468
    0:16:23 9,426

    I get 36m XP/hour with this route, i think i just lack some good lacunis and the will to NOT pick up lvl63 rares, rings n amus or jewels.

    Here is my profile:
    http://eu.battle.net/d3/de/profile/Raknar-2932/hero/1403513

    I know, it does not seem much char dps, but it is enough for MP0, cause for WD pickup range is most important.
    Somebody call for dee docter?
  • #16
    just tried this spec on my barb, and now my farming is much more effective, thanks for sharing this!
  • #17
    I can perform this route, however I am slightly undergeared (and very inexperienced in these skills) to be very efficent with it.

    I do have one big question though... how does he start where he does in the beginning of the video? When I do it, it starts me in the Keep and I take the portal to the core of arreat WP.... making me run to the place where he starts to clear that area and then I have to run back.

    Overall I do ok, nasty packs can kill me especially if an elite and a champ pack spawn close together and they have crap like reflects damage, mortar, motlen, desecrator, arcane, horde, jailer..... it's happened twice in five runs.

    I usually find myself not hitting the number 3 and just sprinting / ww around until my fury drops then I try to find a big pack to charge into to boost my fury.

    Seems like not having warcry / impunity and nerves of steele make it much harder to survive, but this build is fast and the route is good. I haven't gotten a single lengdary or set item yet (but again only five runs).

    So yea I guess my questions are:

    What do you recommend upgrading on my gear ( I have only 1.5 M in gold to spend) ?

    My char: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Battleman13-1236/hero/2845053
    How does he start where he does in the video?
  • #18
    Well I do die fairly often. A run takes me about 10-13 min and I have no +exp gems in anything... so each run is netting me about 5-6M exp.

    Best case scenario (if I don't die) I'll be getting ABOUT 50M per hour (which it will probably be more like 35M).... worst case scenario is that if I am getting killed every other run then I'll get about 24M per hour (or close to probably 20M).

    This isn't bad as I'll still be getting a paragon level per hour at the very least. I need to get my RES all and armor up... DPS seems ok. Could be higher but surviving is slowing me way down, movement speed couldn't hurt either. Only problem is I have about 1M gold to work with and that wont buy much.
  • #19
    Quote from brandonkick2005

    What do you recommend upgrading on my gear ( I have only 1.5 M in gold to spend) ?

    My char: http://us.battle.net...36/hero/2845053
    How does he start where he does in the video?

    I would buy a skorn you can get a decent one for the 1.5 mil and less... Look for one in the 1300 damage with as much strength you can get.. Look for no less then 170% Crit Damage. Look for newly posted Skorns and ones ending.. you would be amazed how many times people miscount zeros and will post a 10 mil skorn for 1 mil. The Skorn will boost your dps by far the most. Also if you are dieing alot put some vitality gems in for the Strength ones since you are using the square ones. I would recommend that. Also save your pennies for a IK helmet the socket will help you level much faster.. Legendaries will come I started getting alot more when I hit Paragon 50. Since I got 150 free MF and i was able to get to near 300 mf pretty easy but not killing my dps.

    Hope this helps.

    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Hotiedethknt-1846/hero/25170139
  • #20
    I tried it after dinner yesterday :)

    Been farming all night.... awesome thanks!
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