This post opened my eyes on how to gear my barb and wanted to give it a bit more spotlight, as i think a lot of information i have found in most forums are very misleading towards barb setups for survival.
Before this I was doing the standard Tank barb setups:
About 40k life, resistances in the 900s, high block shield (29%), 650 lph amulet and bought my first helm of command with a socket. Most items i had were high res (55+) and as much vitality as i could find.
This left me with the problem of having around 5000 dps even with my 950 dps weapon.
I could farm act 2 (expect some crazy packs) and do Belial consistently enough. However act 3 was the brick wall everyone has been talking about.
Yesterday i took the decision to follow the guide and try to maximise EHP rather than with arbitrary rules such as "at least 800 resistance for act 3" or "need stormshield for act3"
I used the EHP calculator extensively on each purchase, maximising EHP.
The outcome was ridiculous, i was able to reach about 1,3 million EHP on the calculator.
The best part being that each item is MUCH MUCH MUCH cheaper on the AH than the standard 50+ res gears with VIT and cheap enough that i can EVEN get a significat amount of strengh on most pieces!
My DPS is topping 12,000 and act 2 has become a joke with my high EHP. I can do about 60-70% of the packs in act 3 thus can slowly farm sieagebreaker as well.
All considering i am selling my old high res gear and buying mid res (30-50) with VIT, STR and possibly life%, that give me higher EHP and DPS and cost around a 1/3 of the gear i am selling.
Right now i am sitting at a spot that my next upgrades will be much more expensive, as my Vit is getting very high and armor and res is starting to give more EHP to me (and we all know Res gear are a magnitude more expensive than other gear). However my DPS is higher than anything i could have immagined not long ago.
People having problem for gearing for act 2 and act 3 should really read that post.
Great thanks for the OP, he deserves more spotlight!\
Edit:
I have yet to embrace the OP's usage of cleave, i will give it a go later.
I did not put AH prices in the post because i play in Asia, as each AH has different prices for items.
I am considering experimenting with 2h, as shield block mitigation loses lots of its value as my res and armor are not that high.
I can imagine this way of gearing is especially good for 2h barbs, seeing as the biggest reason for going very high allres is to lower hits enough to be blocked completely.
he has low dps and over 900 RA, i dont see much if any difference to the "traditional" gearing, he obviously has a LOT of hp but that's mostly because he has great gear and other who have gear like that have less hp but more dps
overall its still a tank build, nothing more, nothing less
I think the main argument is not what his gear is now at, but the cost of acquiring gear for the same result.
I went to the standard Res>Vit>Sr> route and items on AH are very expensive, also because you will almost need legendaries to be even viable in act 3.
Doing the EHP route I achieved better results without having to buy legendaries, and spent about tenth of the money that people suggest in most forums.
Effective Health Points/Pool. Essentially it is a figure that tells you how much damage you can survive without healing and it is found by factoring in resistance, block, armor, dodge and all other damage reductions along with your health.
he has low dps and over 900 RA, i dont see much if any difference to the "traditional" gearing, he obviously has a LOT of hp but that's mostly because he has great gear and other who have gear like that have less hp but more dps
overall its still a tank build, nothing more, nothing less
I think the main argument is not what his gear is now at, but the cost of acquiring gear for the same result.
I went to the standard Res>Vit>Sr> route and items on AH are very expensive, also because you will almost need legendaries to be even viable in act 3.
Doing the EHP route I achieved better results without having to buy legendaries, and spent about tenth of the money that people suggest in most forums.
maybe im dumb but i still dont get the big difference in items that he is picking
you say expensive route is RA>vit>str, his route is vit>RA? or what?
>.<
edit: any item that has high +vit and high all resists is going to cost A LOT, obviously less than the ones that have an extra stat such as strength but its still not cheap
only items that are VERY expensive are string of ears, stormshield (or any high block % shield for that matter) and obviously good 1 hander with LoH
Most items with over 60 res and vitality are also very expensive, for example a 60 res and 100 vitality will be much more expensive than a 30 res 150 vit, because people value res over vitality.
However the latter item will most likely give much higher EHP than the first one as most people have been stacking resistance.
His route is not vit>life% or whatever, his route is using the calculator and maximising EHP, as the benefit of each point of res, vit or life% changes relative to the value of your other items
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I am writing this after I came by this post on the official forums
http://us.battle.net...opic/5575477138 his setup
http://us.battle.net...38008492?page=1 his reasoning behind his choice of gear (chec the posts made by that user)
This post opened my eyes on how to gear my barb and wanted to give it a bit more spotlight, as i think a lot of information i have found in most forums are very misleading towards barb setups for survival.
Before this I was doing the standard Tank barb setups:
About 40k life, resistances in the 900s, high block shield (29%), 650 lph amulet and bought my first helm of command with a socket. Most items i had were high res (55+) and as much vitality as i could find.
This left me with the problem of having around 5000 dps even with my 950 dps weapon.
I could farm act 2 (expect some crazy packs) and do Belial consistently enough. However act 3 was the brick wall everyone has been talking about.
Yesterday i took the decision to follow the guide and try to maximise EHP rather than with arbitrary rules such as "at least 800 resistance for act 3" or "need stormshield for act3"
I used the EHP calculator extensively on each purchase, maximising EHP.
The outcome was ridiculous, i was able to reach about 1,3 million EHP on the calculator.
The best part being that each item is MUCH MUCH MUCH cheaper on the AH than the standard 50+ res gears with VIT and cheap enough that i can EVEN get a significat amount of strengh on most pieces!
My DPS is topping 12,000 and act 2 has become a joke with my high EHP. I can do about 60-70% of the packs in act 3 thus can slowly farm sieagebreaker as well.
All considering i am selling my old high res gear and buying mid res (30-50) with VIT, STR and possibly life%, that give me higher EHP and DPS and cost around a 1/3 of the gear i am selling.
Right now i am sitting at a spot that my next upgrades will be much more expensive, as my Vit is getting very high and armor and res is starting to give more EHP to me (and we all know Res gear are a magnitude more expensive than other gear). However my DPS is higher than anything i could have immagined not long ago.
People having problem for gearing for act 2 and act 3 should really read that post.
Great thanks for the OP, he deserves more spotlight!\
Edit:
I have yet to embrace the OP's usage of cleave, i will give it a go later.
I did not put AH prices in the post because i play in Asia, as each AH has different prices for items.
I am considering experimenting with 2h, as shield block mitigation loses lots of its value as my res and armor are not that high.
I think the main argument is not what his gear is now at, but the cost of acquiring gear for the same result.
I went to the standard Res>Vit>Sr> route and items on AH are very expensive, also because you will almost need legendaries to be even viable in act 3.
Doing the EHP route I achieved better results without having to buy legendaries, and spent about tenth of the money that people suggest in most forums.
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Most items with over 60 res and vitality are also very expensive, for example a 60 res and 100 vitality will be much more expensive than a 30 res 150 vit, because people value res over vitality.
However the latter item will most likely give much higher EHP than the first one as most people have been stacking resistance.
His route is not vit>life% or whatever, his route is using the calculator and maximising EHP, as the benefit of each point of res, vit or life% changes relative to the value of your other items