It's gonna depends on your type of farming, efficient fast farming T6/lower grifts(I was doing mid 40s easily) you'd want to go with bul kathos weapons. But going for high end grifts you'll be using IK weapon. Even if you go with 6p wastes set. Since 4p ik is just too good to give up on, especially with the bracers.
Goggle WW break points, the faster the attack the more hits per second. Ias is actually valuable for WW. Also, it affects the amount of tornadoes you produce.
It does seem limited with options, as the spec really does not work without Bul Kathos weapons if you want to focus on Whirlwind. I tried a lightning build with Shard of Hate + Odyn's Son and while the damage was good it was not sustainable at all, you just don't have any Fury and thus need a Fury generator.
It's probably a problem that can be solved but Bul Kathos simply does that for you, no need for any cooldown reduction or resource cost reduction to sustain it, you can get the 100% WOTB uptime with it, and also run a dust devils physical build with no need to run the lightning rune. If you're going for a raw pet spec then IK Maul is the clear winner but you will need to find a solution to ensure the cooldown reduction is sufficient to keep 100% on WOTB. Obsidian ring may be an option, Leoric Helm for raw CDR maybe.
If you're playing WW then you I'm guessing you will likely want the Skull Grasp ring as it now increases the % weapon damage of Whirlwind by a considerable amount, I'm not sure if the second ring will need to be Ring of Granduer, Stone of Jordan or the new Crit buff ring.
For WW in 2.2 you will want to go IKBB or Bul Kathos set. IKBB for GRs since you can use 3p Wrath of the Wastes and 5p IK and get the respective 4set and 6set bonuses with a rorg.
For T6 speedfarm nothing can get close to the benefit of Bul Kathos set with the AS increase,fury regen and movement speed that the bonus provides.
ok just did a quick test since i got in this buggy laggy ptr.. i cleared a gr42 in 2min 42sec lol.. and this was with non ancient iK set, hexing pants and my ancient stalgard 4591 damage and gems bane, pain and taeguk and without the new wrath berserker bracers so this is just crazy i can push easy over 45 with my set once the patch goes live haha... i wonder if they will nerf the set before update goes out..
i dont think boulder is that good i only have a crappy 3600 damage i like more the stalgard the piercing axe deals huge damage and the dust devils and pain enhancer gem with taeguk buff its crazy amount of damage.
ok just did a quick test since i got in this buggy laggy ptr.. i cleared a gr42 in 2min 42sec lol.. and this was with non ancient iK set, hexing pants and my ancient stalgard 4591 damage and gems bane, pain and taeguk and without the new wrath berserker bracers so this is just crazy i can push easy over 45 with my set once the patch goes live haha... i wonder if they will nerf the set before update goes out..
i dont think boulder is that good i only have a crappy 3600 damage i like more the stalgard the piercing axe deals huge damage and the dust devils and pain enhancer gem with taeguk buff its crazy amount of damage.
Boulder is good because it lets you use both IK and Wrath of the Wastes,so ye, we are pretty much bound to using IKBB if you go with ww/rend build and don't forget the new affix on IKBB ( not retroactive ), 75-100% cota dmg. Even non ancient IKBB is going to be better than an ancient Stalgard.
So the worth it weapons are Bul Kathos and IK hammer. What about that Corrupted Ashbringer? It isn't worth a lot? Damage output of this weapon isn't comparable to 100% buff to Ancients? I hear somewhere that this weapon can IK (instantly kill) lvl 37RG and i have seen some really high crits done with it. So tell me if it is good enough to be compared with IK wep.
They nerfed the Corrupted Ashbringer, or I should say, adjusted the damage on it, it was doing 62,000% weapon damage instead of 6,200% weapon damage. It no longer insta-gibs GRift bosses.
Also, the NEW Bul-Kathos set for T6 (or even Grifts) and IK Boulder BReaker for Grifts (35+).
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Well, I have a Sunkeeper and an Odyn Son(Both ancient) but I was wondering; Is Furnace still going to be the weapon to use with the new whirlwind?
It's gonna depends on your type of farming, efficient fast farming T6/lower grifts(I was doing mid 40s easily) you'd want to go with bul kathos weapons. But going for high end grifts you'll be using IK weapon. Even if you go with 6p wastes set. Since 4p ik is just too good to give up on, especially with the bracers.
Goggle WW break points, the faster the attack the more hits per second. Ias is actually valuable for WW. Also, it affects the amount of tornadoes you produce.
Ah yeah, I forgot about the Bul Kathos weapons buff. I'm thinking of just using those. Thanks guys!
It does seem limited with options, as the spec really does not work without Bul Kathos weapons if you want to focus on Whirlwind. I tried a lightning build with Shard of Hate + Odyn's Son and while the damage was good it was not sustainable at all, you just don't have any Fury and thus need a Fury generator.
It's probably a problem that can be solved but Bul Kathos simply does that for you, no need for any cooldown reduction or resource cost reduction to sustain it, you can get the 100% WOTB uptime with it, and also run a dust devils physical build with no need to run the lightning rune. If you're going for a raw pet spec then IK Maul is the clear winner but you will need to find a solution to ensure the cooldown reduction is sufficient to keep 100% on WOTB. Obsidian ring may be an option, Leoric Helm for raw CDR maybe.
If you're playing WW then you I'm guessing you will likely want the Skull Grasp ring as it now increases the % weapon damage of Whirlwind by a considerable amount, I'm not sure if the second ring will need to be Ring of Granduer, Stone of Jordan or the new Crit buff ring.
for physical i use my stalgard ancient i did a gr43 quick before on the ptr to test with physical seems like a nice weapon for that.
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For WW in 2.2 you will want to go IKBB or Bul Kathos set. IKBB for GRs since you can use 3p Wrath of the Wastes and 5p IK and get the respective 4set and 6set bonuses with a rorg.
For T6 speedfarm nothing can get close to the benefit of Bul Kathos set with the AS increase,fury regen and movement speed that the bonus provides.
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i will use my ancient stalgard as i will go physical.
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ok just did a quick test since i got in this buggy laggy ptr.. i cleared a gr42 in 2min 42sec lol.. and this was with non ancient iK set, hexing pants and my ancient stalgard 4591 damage and gems bane, pain and taeguk and without the new wrath berserker bracers so this is just crazy i can push easy over 45 with my set once the patch goes live haha... i wonder if they will nerf the set before update goes out..
i dont think boulder is that good i only have a crappy 3600 damage i like more the stalgard the piercing axe deals huge damage and the dust devils and pain enhancer gem with taeguk buff its crazy amount of damage.
"Do you guys not have phones?"
Boulder is good because it lets you use both IK and Wrath of the Wastes,so ye, we are pretty much bound to using IKBB if you go with ww/rend build and don't forget the new affix on IKBB ( not retroactive ), 75-100% cota dmg. Even non ancient IKBB is going to be better than an ancient Stalgard.
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Fordragon-2878/hero/9763301
They nerfed the Corrupted Ashbringer, or I should say, adjusted the damage on it, it was doing 62,000% weapon damage instead of 6,200% weapon damage. It no longer insta-gibs GRift bosses.
Also, the NEW Bul-Kathos set for T6 (or even Grifts) and IK Boulder BReaker for Grifts (35+).