The endgame is find your set, find the random legendaries that supplement it, then roll face on keyboard while you search for the exact same items you already have but with higher / better rolls.
Exactly. I just found all of that on my Crusader and I've essentially lost all interest in playing JUST to find all the items again.
i would actualy like to see you go 40 + on dh. Its not as easy as you may think.
theres a streamer named good idea gaming, made a demon hunter 1 week ago and is doing 40+. i think that should say a lot.
that doesn't have to mean much. If he is really lucky with the drops he could have done the same on the other classes aswell..
Its like saying its easy to become a millionair because you just won the lottery. not really but you catch my drift.
The dh is a no skill class why make dh that only lays sentries, dh is supposed to be a archer class shot arrows and etc not an engineer class. I can lay my sentries and have a fap and still beat 40+ and the other classes have a hardtime some need rng or dense. dh most bullshit class right now.
True, DH and every other class needs diversification. But, there is no need to nerf M6, just reduce the damage in Grifts, the other classes will come up as kiting needs not be done fulltime and there is no time to lay too many turrets and hence DPH power will be balanced. Or, we can also consider increase the damage reduction of melee classes.
BTW, DHs definitely need skills to optimize their gear and rapid positioning in action. It is not hard to have the best gear for M6, but I can't consistently beat Grift 38, no will nor skill.
Everyone here knows they will just move on to the next topic to demand nerfs to. The pattern has only been repeated non-stop for the last 2+ years. In fact it's been repeated since the dawn of online gaming.
just buff the other classes. the current iteration of gear constitutes only a few viable builds. which is kind of weird considering the game is about loot. i say keep the builds and gear how they are, no nerfs, and just introduce other equally viable gear and builds into the game.
DH is "superior" when using a single build, all other DH builds are essentially inferior to other classes. Rather than just nerfing DH nerf M6 (reduce number of spenders it can spam in some fashion) but buff other aspects of the class (generators, spenders, resource balance). so that it can have competitive secondary builds.
Heath Bars on Sentries like every other pet in the game.
People keep saying that but i think it's a stupid idea because it will just make dh stronger since the sentries will also be able to tank now.
I think the conclusion fo this thread is: Nerfing dh will be a really bad move and will render the class totally useless if it can't have the m6 build without Blizzard buffing other aspects of the class since basically everything other than m6 is not viable in high gr.
In my opinion, what is most likely to happen is that Blizzard will slowly introduce new items and sets that will make other buidls viable, while doing some minor balance tweaks to encourage the usage of underused skills.
Moral of the story: Stop whinning about nerfs everytime a patch hits because that's never the real issue. The real issue here is the lack of diversity in builds when it comes to end game content and that is the issue that should be addressed.
Calling out for nerfs is the most self destructive, selfish, incosniderate thing you could ever ask for especially if you have almost no experience with said class. Just makes people look like little brats who are unhappy with their toy because the neighbour's kid got a new one.
I can lay my sentries and have a fap and still beat 40+
ill like to see you try, you are just frustrated you cant reach the level you want and other players that use this spec can. just go and Troll some where else.
I find it very annoying when 1 individual says something like, I don't like playing a very specific class/build, such as Demon hunter Sentry build.
There are dozens of ways to play DH....If you want to shoot at stuff as you say, then do it, you have plenty of gear/spell options. Don't change it for others that might be enjoying that option.
I presume you want to Wizard Hydra build changing too, as "they are not really a pet class".
Play something else if you don't like it, and leave the rest of us that do alone.
DH has one functional build at high GRifts. Same for Wiz. I believe WD and Crusader both have two. Monk has (essentially) one.
If you want real effectiveness DH has one build. Fix it.
i would actualy like to see you go 40 + on dh. Its not as easy as you may think.
theres a streamer named good idea gaming, made a demon hunter 1 week ago and is doing 40+. i think that should say a lot.
that literally says nothing. GiG has been streaming for a very long time and playing diablo even longer. He got full jade in 9 hours gambling pre 2.1 and was wrecking with that too. As i recall that spec is pretty skill-intensive, so find another example if you want to talk about a class/build taking 0 skill to play for higher GR's.
With 6 maraduer each sentry can cast an %660 dmg per sec hatred spender such as multishot with rocket rune
With tasker glove each sentry attack speed become 3 per second
%660 x 3 x 7 damage per second
İts % 13860 damage per sec
Firebird %3000 plus attack
Rimeheart %10000 but poor proc rate
Crusader with full roland shieldbash % 7000 but resource cost
Archon combustion % 4500 but per 90 sec
İ am repeating that...
% 13860 damage and cast for free
What the ...
now we know you can almost do math.
so whats the social relevance of nerfing DH's with the numbers you posted?
Most DH's users don't have the items you just mentioned.. problem is i think you watch to much twitch.
most DH'S users i know just acquired their M6 & most of them are just plain bad
before you go slamming other classes maybe its better for you to think of a way to make you class out perform Dh's don't you think?
stop wasting time crunching numbers place blaming & etc. its just a game bro. people just want to have fun if you think your class is under powered then maybe you should think of build to make them better. i am just sick off all the 5YO rants on nerfing & etc.
Look at you trying to tell designers how to design. While Marauder may be too overpowered, the core aspect of that build evolves around a key component of the Demon Hunter class. And they always said they will not make everything equally perfect or imperfect, especially when it comes to fire damage vs. the rest. Some things still have to be better than some. However, unless they change the Marauder set, you won't see any nerfed damage on sentries, because that means that if you don't have the set, that skill is useless.
Your logic has no power here!!!!!
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Also, re read your post before hitting the post button, your english is doing more damage to my eyes than my sentrys do to zombies.
Its like saying its easy to become a millionair because you just won the lottery. not really but you catch my drift.
BTW, DHs definitely need skills to optimize their gear and rapid positioning in action. It is not hard to have the best gear for M6, but I can't consistently beat Grift 38, no will nor skill.
OVER THERE!!! ----->
I SAW SOME PEOPLE HAVING FUN!!!
NERF THEM!!!11111111!!
*RING* *RING* "Oh shit someone called the fun police!"
Are you new to the internet, gaming, and D3???
Everyone here knows they will just move on to the next topic to demand nerfs to. The pattern has only been repeated non-stop for the last 2+ years. In fact it's been repeated since the dawn of online gaming.
DH is "superior" when using a single build, all other DH builds are essentially inferior to other classes. Rather than just nerfing DH nerf M6 (reduce number of spenders it can spam in some fashion) but buff other aspects of the class (generators, spenders, resource balance). so that it can have competitive secondary builds.
As a side-note: Wiz needs the same treatment.
I think the conclusion fo this thread is: Nerfing dh will be a really bad move and will render the class totally useless if it can't have the m6 build without Blizzard buffing other aspects of the class since basically everything other than m6 is not viable in high gr.
In my opinion, what is most likely to happen is that Blizzard will slowly introduce new items and sets that will make other buidls viable, while doing some minor balance tweaks to encourage the usage of underused skills.
Moral of the story: Stop whinning about nerfs everytime a patch hits because that's never the real issue. The real issue here is the lack of diversity in builds when it comes to end game content and that is the issue that should be addressed.
Calling out for nerfs is the most self destructive, selfish, incosniderate thing you could ever ask for especially if you have almost no experience with said class. Just makes people look like little brats who are unhappy with their toy because the neighbour's kid got a new one.
If you want real effectiveness DH has one build. Fix it.
Dh can make 7 sentry with some legendary affixes
With 6 maraduer each sentry can cast an %660 dmg per sec hatred spender such as multishot with rocket rune
With tasker glove each sentry attack speed become 3 per second
%660 x 3 x 7 damage per second
İts % 13860 damage per sec
Firebird %3000 plus attack
Rimeheart %10000 but poor proc rate
Crusader with full roland shieldbash % 7000 but resource cost
Archon combustion % 4500 but per 90 sec
İ am repeating that...
% 13860 damage and cast for free
What the ...
so whats the social relevance of nerfing DH's with the numbers you posted?
Most DH's users don't have the items you just mentioned.. problem is i think you watch to much twitch.
most DH'S users i know just acquired their M6 & most of them are just plain bad
before you go slamming other classes maybe its better for you to think of a way to make you class out perform Dh's don't you think?
stop wasting time crunching numbers place blaming & etc. its just a game bro. people just want to have fun if you think your class is under powered then maybe you should think of build to make them better. i am just sick off all the 5YO rants on nerfing & etc.