For future reference, someone else's immaturity or lack of respect doesn't and shouldn't validate your own. Personally, I think both you and your friend should be banned from this forum, and if saying that gets me banned it's worth it to me because people like yourself who complain with such closed-minded perspectives aren't worth having any sort of discussions with. Neither you nor your friend are willing to have a meaningful conversation with anyone who disagrees with you because we're all "too stupid" to understand your point of view.
I think he's complaining with an open minded perspective...that's what I see.
I see when I read his post, an endless barrage of things worth thinking about. from him, you and everyone else in this thread..every ones post is just that.
Its just really disappointing that when I describe the gameplay and the feel and flow of combat..its some of the best of the business..its reference grade for blizzard as far as im concerned..
so why cant I feel that way about the things that really matter?
how come when hunting for items I cant absolutely gush over the possibilities the way I gush over the amazing gameplay?
how come I cant say the character development is some of the best in the business...?
how come getting cool items is such a seldom occurrence? and I don't mean powerful items...i mean interesting ones...
why are they so scarce?
how come when deciding what type of barbarian I want to be I'm wasting my fucking time? I'm just going to be following my nose through the game looking for goddamn lut socks...
Well probably because years ago, people who said that were silenced. they were branded as non-constructive. argumentative, troll, not a team player etc. etc. removed from alpha testing...
I just cringe when I see a build on this website that has that stupid. fucking. RRoG. listed as either mandatory or recommended....Jesus fucking christ. does that not stick out like a sore thumb?
Oh you want the concept of pet class to really flourish and function and be a significant part of the game? buh bye for you. zombie dogs are going to be useless pieces of shit for at least several months. you are banned. come back when you are willing to be a team player.
Mad how some issues of the game that are fairly important are left to linger for fucking years? that's not constructive...
do I agree with everything the OP said. probably not. i just skimmed over it half a dozen times...I just spot read the posts on here...I checked up on the back and forth debates....
and through it all I forged a way of thinking about what progress they have made in this game and what things they chose to set on the back burner. and its pretty ruthless.
in the most diplomatic statement possible, they put time and effort in to the wrong aspects of this game. dead wrong.
no matter how you phrase it no matter how much you care, your idea of just that will be torn asunder by people who embrace those things you find appalling....
its really kind of quirky....
I dont even know how to describe it...
I just sympathize so strongly with people who are frustrated with the game because everyone I know in real life abandoned the game like no other. They all bought the expansion and they were fooled once again. they all quit in a few weeks. I even kept a spreadsheet of my friends and their co-workers. all but 2 of us bought the expansion. and they all tossed it away like a fucking bazooka joe comic.
I sympathize with people on here who have thousands of posts.
I sympathize with all the celebrity accounts whose opinions are lauded, like the monks INVIS and Druin. Jaetch who frequents this forum and is a mad man...the MVPS like Droth and TheTias. The key players here Shaggy and Meathead Mikhail and Zero(PS) who just got ranked to News-Manager. Probably at gunpoint lol.
as rare as a fucking Crit mempo was, what's more rare is a forum poster with no negative and critical undertones in some of their posts...
read a guys' shit long enough and eventually they will reveal some pretty glaring and IMHO stupid-as-all-fuck design decisions related EXCLUSIVELY to this game: Diablo 3.
I stand in awe of the 8000 odd pages of posts in general discussion on the official forums alone, most of which, as mentioned above contain these negative messages and harsh feedback.
As I find myself repeating, if the creators of Diablo 3 cannot use the writings of the internet to make a game that DESTROYS the competition, in an artistic and critical way, its a sad day for those creators.
They were on the fucking precipice. they had basically infinite resources, support and anticipation on their side.
if back in 2012 if you told me what the game is, what it actually IS today. now that all the foot dragging and silliness has been revealed, all the things mentioned by the above mentioned legion of fans with their quasi celebrity status and their hundreds of thousands of pages of feedback, all the bullshit surrounding the auction house and zero trading and flip flopping over item design and smart loot basically guaranteeing every fucking item contained the same stats when you find them during play...
then we might be speaking the same language...
as it stands when I mention these things and other mention them and they are chastised? its confusing to say the least...
the game has to build it self FOR the QUALITY of the game.
and their is a laundry list of a hundred things that should be absolutely fucking ERASED AEONS before we can dance in town ...for fucks sake....
Reading through this, it seems like Hyperion came here to vent a little (totally understandable, I probably would have in his place), but also did present some very valid points and issues that I happen to agree with. If many of you had taken the time to research what he was talking about instead of starting to flame at him right away, you might have actually seen what he was talking about.
Yes he comes across as "emotional" but he plainly stats at the beginning of his post that he is irritated at blizzard, if you are able to be totally emotionless and not express ANY of your anger in a post like that after getting banned from blizzard forms, then you are a saint. Just because he is somewhat angry does not make his points any less valid.
From what it seems, Hyperion was being very civil and carrying on a decent discussion until people started flaming at him and call him a QQer and at that point I don't blame him for becoming more hostile, it is very irritating when you are being civil and people come in and start making obviously hostile accusations intended to insult. Even with people insulting him, he was very courteous to those who made attempts to carry on a good discussion.
All in all, I think Hyperion has made some very valid points and seems like a decent player and a decent person even if he is a little hotheaded. I think this discussion and many like it would go much better if people took the time to think about what the OP is saying and consider peoples point of view before posting.
Exactly, thank you.. We have told many people who even disagreed or had a different view point on the OP that were civil, that we get it and ty for sharing. Some people come on here shooting bullets and get upset when you fire back.... What a concept act like a dick get treated like one...
GOD I feel so sorry for your wife and kids having to put up with your stupidity 24/7, if they stick around for the long haul they are saints!
First off, where did I say people haven't "played enough to be good" or "played enough hours"? WTF is up with idiots always misquoting people? I guess they think that people might think they are smarter for doing that? IDK
If you genuinely want a meaningful discussion on this you should really stop with the insults. It's really what will differentiate yourself from the countless complainers of the game that you can't have a serious discussion with because they're either too immature or too stupid to have a debate that doesn't resort to petty insults in order to get your point across.
At this point this thread should just be closed if all it's going to come down to is name calling when someone presents an opposing opinion to your own.
We have been more than understanding and open with many people who did not agree that were civil. Go read previous post, people directly trying to be rude, will be treated so in return. It is the way of the world.
Also, to those of you who say that it is "a miracle that blizzard continues to make patches and fix things when they are not making any money on this game" you are totally wrong. Blizzard is still making tons of money off of this game and will continue to do so as long as they work on it and work on patches.
If blizzard stopped working on this game right now, they would lose TONS of money, fist off many people would be left very irritated with blizzard for leaving the game such as it is and would probably not buy future blizzard products.
As long as blizzard continues to make updates/expansions/patches people will come back and play the game, new members join each day and many of them from friends who recommend it to them. Every single bit of work they do on this game makes more people come and play it, and recommend it to friends. If Blizzard releases new content for it and keeps its current player base those current players will tell their friends what they are playing and thus get more membes.
Blizzard just released RoS for console.... they are definitely making loads of money off of that.
So saying that blizzard fixing the game and releasing new content and fixing the current game is totally selfless and a gift to us, then you have a misinformed opinion.
Quit if you want to and take your community of experienced, overintelligent, mature players to another games. Saying 'fix this or people will quit' is as childish as what I'm about to say:
You don't like it? Move the hell out of here and spread your riot somewhere else.
Don't bother replying, I won't read this. It's hard to argue with person who separate things into white and black only.
don't lie, you came back to see if I replied to you....
"Blizzard will lose their most experienced players and support base."
Says the topic and this is pretty accurate as those two gentlemen are playing Diablo 3 for 5 years now. It's rather hard to find other so experienced players. One of them is whining about changes and in the same time his signature says "Adapt or die". Well...
I really enjoy this ridiculous topic a lot.
I love it when I am right about things like this Trolls cant stay away
P.S. He is not "Whining about changes" he is talking about the lack thereof. Once again and with all respect possible, I ask you to READ the posts first before you reply and bend peoples words to fit your agenda. Thank you!
Diablo 3, is literally 80% time spent, 19% RnG for loot drops, 1% skill.
In the end it's a 2-3 buttons game and I completely agree with you. Thank god it's not as complex as a MMO... I played in a world top 10 guild too(Conspiracy/Lotto) and was ranked dozens of times #1 wowprogress but I still can't believe that I could stay over 12-14 hours a day in front of a computer to make that happen.
The RNG is more than time spent IMO , I've seen people with 1/4 of my time played that have calamity/furnace/perfect rolled TF.
Agree, it is more like 90% RnG, 19% time spent and 1% skill.
IMO it sould be more like 50% skill, 25% RnG, 25% time spent.
Diablo 3, is literally 80% time spent, 19% RnG for loot drops, 1% skill.
In the end it's a 2-3 buttons game and I completely agree with you. Thank god it's not as complex as a MMO... I played in a world top 10 guild too(Conspiracy/Lotto) and was ranked dozens of times #1 wowprogress but I still can't believe that I could stay over 12-14 hours a day in front of a computer to make that happen.
The RNG is more than time spent IMO , I've seen people with 1/4 of my time played that have calamity/furnace/perfect rolled TF.
Agree, it is more like 90% RnG, 19% time spent and 1% skill.
IMO it sould be more like 50% skill, 25% RnG, 25% time spent.
Oh, god. Now I agree with you. Why did you have to go and do that? Truce?
It would be extremely difficult to make any click to move game rely on skill. At least the type of game that Diablo is. The fact is, and I think we can all agree its pretty much a fact, that this game has improved 1000000% over what it was. The classes are more balanced then ever (a couple classes need a nudge, especially for group grifting), and its moving in the right direction.
One thing I can tell you from playing at the top levels of WoW, D2, D3(vanilla), CSS, TF(C/2), and more. Is that the people at the top are not the "money providers" for the company. Sure they keep some of the people playing, but the casuals are the ones buying Hats in TF2. The casuals are the ones who buy D3, the pets in WoW. The ones who buy 8 copies of D2 over the years to play it for 30 minutes of nostalgia and then lose the discs again. When you play at the top, you HAVE to understand that it can be frustrating, and that things will most likely improve, but not until everyone else feels the "pain". It was a way of life in WoW PVE and PVP. Especially playing a rogue for 500 hours in Vanilla - WotLK. (Eff you Arena Season 5+ and your seasonal uber classes. LOOKING AT YOU HUNTERS AND DK's!)
Basically, what I am saying is. Take a break maybe? Wait for everyone else to catch up. I really do feel your pain. My guild cleared M'uru world 2nd. The following week they nerfed it. Then they nerfed it again. The point in bringing this up, is that shows that the top 1% of the game, are not the money makers. Otherwise they would have left M'uru as hard as he was and not let the casuals have a shot at him and seeing the content. I believe you already know this tho, and judging by how you have changed your tone to people throughout the thread, you probably realized you were coming off as non-productive and non-conducive to conversation.
not sure if anyone posted, but don't compare class balance at top players from each class, but rather 1000th player from each class.
That's not meaningful, as it's sensitive to class popularity. Ideally, you should take the whole GRift distribution curve, normalized for population, and check the tail. With error bars in place, tails that fall off (statistically significantly) faster than other may indicate class balance issues. However, they may also indicate set bonus balance issues, which (obviously) correlates with class balance, but is a completely separate variable that Blizzard can adjust.
IMO, the biggest problem currently is simply the grossly disproportionate power from certain 6-piece sets. They're a hard RNG check, and seriously obfuscate class balance issues. Personally, I think Blizzard ate a fistful of paint chips with those damn things. Variation is what makes long-term grinding fun, not chasing an RNG cock-block... that's just exhausting.
Each class should have a few 6-piece sets with good, solid bonuses for three pieces and no higher. This makes getting those bonuses easier, as 3 out of 6 is much easier than 6 out of 6, it adds flexibility, as you can mix'n'match to keep the bonuses from any given set, combine the bonuses from two different sets and use ordinary legendaries if there's not pair of 3-piece bonuses that fit your playstyle. However, as with that stupid ring, Blizzard has painted themselves into a corner that they won't be able to get out of without causing legitimate anger, not just the petulant carry-on we're seeing here.
/Math High-Five!
We don't really have a way to see the actual statistics. Im sure Dh has way more players right now. In vanilla before RoS, barbs were like 80% of the playerbase because for 100k gold you could rape Torment1-3. Without the actual statistical analysis or a way to grab the info, its all opinion. The top 10 of each class proves nothing in reality when compared to those below the top 10 in terms of analytical data.
The RNG Cockblock is killing me slowly at this point. With my limited play time (maybe 1-2 hours a night on weekdays) I was in full M6 4 days after season started. After thousands of shards, I still dont have TnT or single Unity or SoJ, or even seen an immunity amulet. I was using Cluckeye until 2 days ago when a friendly DH gave me an underwhelming Etrayu that dropped. It's starting to put me off to the game. I have been playing a monk a bit, seems fun for a wee bit.
DAMMIT! Just realized I am sitting in class waiting on it to start... its 9:07. Been here since 830... class isnt until 10... lol
In vanilla before RoS, barbs were like 80% of the playerbase because for 100k gold you could rape Torment1-3.
???
With D3v2 and torment implementation they reworked WoTB:ToC so no perma WoTB was possible on torment difficulties.
So the guys who created this topic says that they are most exprienced and claim D3 to be 5 years old.. and now people who claim to perma WoTB on Torment are backing them up?
Those experienced players are so experienced.
Um... you realize... Perma WoTB worked right up till 2.0.... By Torment 1-3, I meant MP. *shrug* Technically speaking, Perma-Beserker did work on Torment MP1+ until 2.0 came out.
In vanilla before RoS, barbs were like 80% of the playerbase because for 100k gold you could rape Torment1-3.
???
With D3v2 and torment implementation they reworked WoTB:ToC so no perma WoTB was possible on torment difficulties.
So the guys who created this topic says that they are most exprienced and claim D3 to be 5 years old.. and now people who claim to perma WoTB on Torment are backing them up?
Those experienced players are so experienced.
Um... you realize... Perma WoTB worked right up till 2.0.... By Torment 1-3, I meant MP. *shrug* Technically speaking, Perma-Beserker did work on Torment MP1+ until 2.0 came out.
Ain't that what I've said? I said that perma wotb stopped working at D3v2 when torment was implemented... Just look up and read it. What the hell?
Anyway, bring more experienced players to the table ~~ please
Sorry, I meant Inferno. I forgot they changed the name of it with RoS
OP - 2.1 is about as bug-free as a patch of that magnitude can be. I know you expect perfection from blizzard, but if you think this patch is 'buggy', go play some other arpg.
Second, no matter how you balance, no matter what you do, there will ALWAYS be a BEST build for something that's min-maxed as much as possible. This is logically unavoidable. You're asking for the impossible.
Having said that, 2.1 has more build diversity than any other Diablo patch has had since release. I'm not talking about top 100 leaderboards, which is less than 0.01% of the population. I'm talking about the game as a whole.
TL;DR - you got a suspension because you're whining like a little baby. Grow up.
Having said that, 2.1 has more build diversity than any other Diablo patch has had since release. I'm not talking about top 100 leaderboards, which is less than 0.01% of the population. I'm talking about the game as a whole.
If you go back and read what myself and others have posted and actually do some research before posting here you will realize that this is quite false.
Having said that, 2.1 has more build diversity than any other Diablo patch has had since release. I'm not talking about top 100 leaderboards, which is less than 0.01% of the population. I'm talking about the game as a whole.
If you go back and read what myself and others have posted and actually do some research before posting here you will realize that this is quite false.
Actually he's right. And how does reading your previous posts prove that this statement is false? Ae you providing us with actual numbers about possible builds throughout D3's development? Point at a period of time where D3 had more build diversity. And notice that he said that he is not talking about the top leaderboards.
Having said that, 2.1 has more build diversity than any other Diablo patch has had since release. I'm not talking about top 100 leaderboards, which is less than 0.01% of the population. I'm talking about the game as a whole.
If you go back and read what myself and others have posted and actually do some research before posting here you will realize that this is quite false.
Actually he's right. And how does reading your previous posts prove that this statement is false? Ae you providing us with actual numbers about possible builds throughout D3's development? Point at a period of time where D3 had more build diversity. And notice that he said that he is not talking about the top leaderboards.
If you are just talking about putting skills together with no synergy then yes now there are more options because we have a 4th passive, but if you are talking about viable endgame builds that synergize well then no.
Having said that, 2.1 has more build diversity than any other Diablo patch has had since release. I'm not talking about top 100 leaderboards, which is less than 0.01% of the population. I'm talking about the game as a whole.
If you go back and read what myself and others have posted and actually do some research before posting here you will realize that this is quite false.
Actually he's right. And how does reading your previous posts prove that this statement is false? Ae you providing us with actual numbers about possible builds throughout D3's development? Point at a period of time where D3 had more build diversity. And notice that he said that he is not talking about the top leaderboards.
If you are just talking about putting skills together with no synergy then yes now there are more options because we have a 4th passive, but if you are talking about viable endgame builds that synergize well then no.
Love people that claims to be experienced and yet, they have no clue about the game.
eh...
I don't know who Silvach is talking about but Hyperion you are wrong. And saying endgame after two people stated that they are not talking about end game is just pretending to be stupid. Right now, on T6 , there are multiple viable specs for every class. Sure you can say "t6 is easy so everything works" but that's just wrong. Try gearing up from the beginning and you will see that T6 still hits like a motherfucker... In high GR every class has one build (maybe 2 in some cases) but before high gr there are multiple viable builds for every class and that's a fact. Point at a period of time where D3 had more diversity and provide us with examples to prove your claims if you really think that you are right.
Every class has at least 3 builds that are t6 viable at the moment and that's quite awesome.
OP - 2.1 is about as bug-free as a patch of that magnitude can be. I know you expect perfection from blizzard, but if you think this patch is 'buggy', go play some other arpg.
Second, no matter how you balance, no matter what you do, there will ALWAYS be a BEST build for something that's min-maxed as much as possible. This is logically unavoidable. You're asking for the impossible.
Having said that, 2.1 has more build diversity than any other Diablo patch has had since release. I'm not talking about top 100 leaderboards, which is less than 0.01% of the population. I'm talking about the game as a whole.
TL;DR - you got a suspension because you're whining like a little baby. Grow up.
im not sure if you read the thread but its not just the fact that one build is stronger, its 1 build is so much stronger one can do t 6 the other can do greater rift 40 +. sounds like a no brainer to me, even if the damage was 20% less or even 25% less id still play leapquake barb over raekor. unfortanlly with my current gear my raekor crits for over 300 mill and with mostly best in slot my leapquake is critting for 76 mil and les often to and doesnt stun the enemy "unless i want to lose a ton of armor on my leap and die alot in greater rifts":
i mean really, is it to much to ask to balance the builds without one vuild doing quadrouple the damage? i like leapquake but unfortantly it sucks. and thats just one example. my friends a wizard and likes the vyrs set and cant even play it because once again, firebirds does more then 5 times the ammount of damage. thats just ridiculas in my opinion and people shouldnt just shrug and look the other way pretending its okay. you can say its hard to balance sure, but do you really know if it is or not? i can tell you this, if they can make all of these passives and skills and items for each class, then why would it be so impossible to do it twice? they did it for crusader. so whats the difference between a crusader and any other class?
I was saying about Hyperion, the guy proved in this topic, multiple times, that he is not experienced. Started with claiming that the Diablo 3 is 5 years (he most likely joined the game with RoS) old ending on the statement that there are fewer available builds than in the past patches.
This guy is just trolling, saying he is experienced as he probably spend some time playing the franchise and can do higher grifts. Doing the 35+ grift content does not make you experienced right away. You have no idea about the game and you claim to be experienced.
Furthermore, Diablo 3 is an ARPG where there is no end-game, this is not an MMO. In addition, in every ARPG (diablo franchise is perfect example) there is just the one build that surpasses everything else. It will always be like this. If you think otherwise you obviously haven't played ARPG or Diablo 2 (hammerdin+smite1 rings a bell?).
When you make assumptions like this about people it does nothing for the discussion, what good does it to make accusations about Hyperion like this?
He also clearly states that that he has played D3 since it originally came out, and he also states that he has played in ever patch as well. When you make assumptions like this and then reply as if what you said was true, it does nothing for the conversation.
I was saying about Hyperion, the guy proved in this topic, multiple times, that he is not experienced. Started with claiming that the Diablo 3 is 5 years (he most likely joined the game with RoS) old ending on the statement that there are fewer available builds than in the past patches.
This guy is just trolling, saying he is experienced as he probably spend some time playing the franchise and can do higher grifts. Doing the 35+ grift content does not make you experienced right away. You have no idea about the game and you claim to be experienced.
Furthermore, Diablo 3 is an ARPG where there is no end-game, this is not an MMO. In addition, in every ARPG (diablo franchise is perfect example) there is just the one build that surpasses everything else. It will always be like this. If you think otherwise you obviously haven't played ARPG or Diablo 2 (hammerdin+smite1 rings a bell?).
When you make assumptions like this about people it does nothing for the discussion, what good does it to make accusations about Hyperion like this?
He also clearly states that that he has played D3 since it originally came out, and he also states that he has played in ever patch as well. When you make assumptions like this and then reply as if what you said was true, it does nothing for the conversation.
Please stop.
He said he is playing from the beginning and yet he thinks that D3 is 5 years old.
lol.
time flows differently for him i guess.
He never said it is 5 years old.
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If blizzard stopped working on this game right now, they would lose TONS of money, fist off many people would be left very irritated with blizzard for leaving the game such as it is and would probably not buy future blizzard products.
As long as blizzard continues to make updates/expansions/patches people will come back and play the game, new members join each day and many of them from friends who recommend it to them. Every single bit of work they do on this game makes more people come and play it, and recommend it to friends. If Blizzard releases new content for it and keeps its current player base those current players will tell their friends what they are playing and thus get more membes.
Blizzard just released RoS for console.... they are definitely making loads of money off of that.
So saying that blizzard fixing the game and releasing new content and fixing the current game is totally selfless and a gift to us, then you have a misinformed opinion.
I love it when I am right about things like this Trolls cant stay away
P.S. He is not "Whining about changes" he is talking about the lack thereof. Once again and with all respect possible, I ask you to READ the posts first before you reply and bend peoples words to fit your agenda. Thank you!
IMO it sould be more like 50% skill, 25% RnG, 25% time spent.
It would be extremely difficult to make any click to move game rely on skill. At least the type of game that Diablo is. The fact is, and I think we can all agree its pretty much a fact, that this game has improved 1000000% over what it was. The classes are more balanced then ever (a couple classes need a nudge, especially for group grifting), and its moving in the right direction.
One thing I can tell you from playing at the top levels of WoW, D2, D3(vanilla), CSS, TF(C/2), and more. Is that the people at the top are not the "money providers" for the company. Sure they keep some of the people playing, but the casuals are the ones buying Hats in TF2. The casuals are the ones who buy D3, the pets in WoW. The ones who buy 8 copies of D2 over the years to play it for 30 minutes of nostalgia and then lose the discs again. When you play at the top, you HAVE to understand that it can be frustrating, and that things will most likely improve, but not until everyone else feels the "pain". It was a way of life in WoW PVE and PVP. Especially playing a rogue for 500 hours in Vanilla - WotLK. (Eff you Arena Season 5+ and your seasonal uber classes. LOOKING AT YOU HUNTERS AND DK's!)
Basically, what I am saying is. Take a break maybe? Wait for everyone else to catch up. I really do feel your pain. My guild cleared M'uru world 2nd. The following week they nerfed it. Then they nerfed it again. The point in bringing this up, is that shows that the top 1% of the game, are not the money makers. Otherwise they would have left M'uru as hard as he was and not let the casuals have a shot at him and seeing the content. I believe you already know this tho, and judging by how you have changed your tone to people throughout the thread, you probably realized you were coming off as non-productive and non-conducive to conversation.
We don't really have a way to see the actual statistics. Im sure Dh has way more players right now. In vanilla before RoS, barbs were like 80% of the playerbase because for 100k gold you could rape Torment1-3. Without the actual statistical analysis or a way to grab the info, its all opinion. The top 10 of each class proves nothing in reality when compared to those below the top 10 in terms of analytical data.
The RNG Cockblock is killing me slowly at this point. With my limited play time (maybe 1-2 hours a night on weekdays) I was in full M6 4 days after season started. After thousands of shards, I still dont have TnT or single Unity or SoJ, or even seen an immunity amulet. I was using Cluckeye until 2 days ago when a friendly DH gave me an underwhelming Etrayu that dropped. It's starting to put me off to the game. I have been playing a monk a bit, seems fun for a wee bit.
DAMMIT! Just realized I am sitting in class waiting on it to start... its 9:07. Been here since 830... class isnt until 10... lol
I'm still waiting on that D3 Arena they had at Blizzcon... hopefully the next expansion will have it! *sarcasm*
Second, no matter how you balance, no matter what you do, there will ALWAYS be a BEST build for something that's min-maxed as much as possible. This is logically unavoidable. You're asking for the impossible.
Having said that, 2.1 has more build diversity than any other Diablo patch has had since release. I'm not talking about top 100 leaderboards, which is less than 0.01% of the population. I'm talking about the game as a whole.
TL;DR - you got a suspension because you're whining like a little baby. Grow up.
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Every class has at least 3 builds that are t6 viable at the moment and that's quite awesome.
i mean really, is it to much to ask to balance the builds without one vuild doing quadrouple the damage? i like leapquake but unfortantly it sucks. and thats just one example. my friends a wizard and likes the vyrs set and cant even play it because once again, firebirds does more then 5 times the ammount of damage. thats just ridiculas in my opinion and people shouldnt just shrug and look the other way pretending its okay. you can say its hard to balance sure, but do you really know if it is or not? i can tell you this, if they can make all of these passives and skills and items for each class, then why would it be so impossible to do it twice? they did it for crusader. so whats the difference between a crusader and any other class?
He also clearly states that that he has played D3 since it originally came out, and he also states that he has played in ever patch as well. When you make assumptions like this and then reply as if what you said was true, it does nothing for the conversation.
Please stop.